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  apanz3r

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Joined: 11/17/11
Posts: 281

 
OP  5/20/13 10:41:46 AM#1
Is a great game, especially if you are in space mmo or in star trek. You have for free access to a all the content which is a lot. There instant grupping for "instances" and "raids". Community is very friendly. There is a cash shop but you don;t really have to use if you are mostly in pve or casual pvp. For hardcore pvp you would have to pay a little bit but is pretty much 1 time fee for a better ship. The gear is aquired trough "emblem farming" and maybe some lucky drops. Only downside is that it does not have space holding, but i think this is schedlued for future. All in all is enough interesting content for couple months without end-game grinding. Everything that require real money can be also bought trough playing (real money are just shortcut for farming).
  TheLizardbones

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5/20/13 10:49:06 AM#2

I played the game at release and couldn't really get into it. I think what I wanted was more of an original series feel, or maybe a rebooted series feel.

In any event, I'm not sure it's underrated. I'm sure it's underrated on the MMORPG.com forums, but overall there seem to be a lot of people playing the game, new updates and and new content.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  apanz3r

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Joined: 11/17/11
Posts: 281

 
OP  5/20/13 6:02:45 PM#3
I had the same experience when was started but i give it a new spin lately and i enjoy it.
  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 979

5/22/13 3:34:26 PM#4

STO has evolved into a REAL AAA MMO, albeit a small one

they have squished a ton of bugs , and added some very nice features

and its one of the very few mmos, that allow you to customize your character over and over,

for a very small amount of in game credits

welcome to the big League STO

  InsaneDalek

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Posts: 123

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5/22/13 3:39:19 PM#5

I'm enjoying the new Romulan content so far, but I do wish I had the option of creating a character on the side of the Tal Shiar. Oh well.

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  AG-Vuk

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5/22/13 4:18:00 PM#6
Originally posted by simplius

STO has evolved into a REAL AAA MMO, albeit a small one

they have squished a ton of bugs , and added some very nice features

and its one of the very few mmos, that allow you to customize your character over and over,

for a very small amount of in game credits

welcome to the big League STO

Yeah , I'll take issue with a few things here. AAA ? Seriously , ever dealt with customer service ? How about server loads ? Customization of Characters ? Really that's your criteria for AAA ? Seriously ? It's a nice feature, but the core mechanics are weak and the game is basically CO dressed up to be ST. I think people with an agenda push this game farther forward then it deserves. It has some nice parts and not discounting the fun factor. As far as space games go , it's a failure. Sorry but 2-D movement with a stepped vertical movement just doesn't cut it. In fact the same movement found in in CoX, CO. But , hey why let things like that get in the way of glorifying what is a best a mediocre game, from a mediocre company.

  Whitebeards

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 823

5/22/13 4:21:11 PM#7
Originally posted by AG-Vuk
Originally posted by simplius

STO has evolved into a REAL AAA MMO, albeit a small one

they have squished a ton of bugs , and added some very nice features

and its one of the very few mmos, that allow you to customize your character over and over,

for a very small amount of in game credits

welcome to the big League STO

Yeah , I'll take issue with a few things here. AAA ? Seriously , ever dealt with customer service ? How about server loads ? Customization of Characters ? Really that's your criteria for AAA ? Seriously ? It's a nice feature, but the core mechanics are weak and the game is basically CO dressed up to be ST. I think people with an agenda push this game farther forward then it deserves. It has some nice parts and not discounting the fun factor. As far as space games go , it's a failure. Sorry but 2-D movement with a stepped vertical movement just doesn't cut it. In fact the same movement found in in CoX, CO. But , hey why let things like that get in the way of glorifying what is a best a mediocre game, from a mediocre company.

Hmm am i the only who can see the irony in this statement? 

  Ikeda

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5/22/13 4:33:06 PM#8
I'll start OVER rating them when it doesn't take greater than 8 days to solve a merging of accounts.  8 days I've waited.  Screw them, screw their products, Neverwinter and STO have taught me to beware the fire.  Shoulda known that PWE wouldn't solve the Cryptic problem.....

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  BMBender

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Posts: 560

5/22/13 4:36:26 PM#9

AAA? uhn lol nope it aint bad but it aint no AAA title.

it's simple fact that the only thing keeping it around is the f2p model and the IP, take either of those away and it would disappear.  If it was just some random sci fy game and was judged purely on mechanics/technical attributes, customer service no one would play it. ergo it's not an AAA offering.

  apanz3r

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Joined: 11/17/11
Posts: 281

 
OP  5/22/13 6:39:28 PM#10
Originally posted by BMBender

AAA? uhn lol nope it aint bad but it aint no AAA title.

it's simple fact that the only thing keeping it around is the f2p model and the IP, take either of those away and it would disappear.  If it was just some random sci fy game and was judged purely on mechanics/technical attributes, customer service no one would play it. ergo it's not an AAA offering.

I think AAA is too generic.

The game have good graphic, good immersion and a lot of content. Pvp is fun and there is arena style pvp and a little bit of free world pvp.

You have ground action and space action.

Sure there is room to improve, some raid-boss stuff would be good but i think they do steady progress.

It looks like those days the scifi spece ships is kind of gone. If you look on scifi channel all you see is reality shows, teenagers with problems (hello caprica)  and some ordinary guys that have "powers" (hello alphas).

I think space /spaship genre is kind of dying, not sure why, maybe it does not fit in projections done by the young wolves in pubs and nightclubs ....

Eve is one of a kind and survives due to dedicated players base (hello to 2-4 alt accounts) and they grow also a little bit but the level of grieffing in that game is too much.

There will be to other scifi games Star citizen and elite dangerous but is too early to discuss about them as they are in early production.

So basically startrek online is the last Mohican of space ship mmos. If it fails we can go back to elves and orcs....

 

 

 

  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 979

5/24/13 4:14:37 PM#11
Originally posted by AG-Vuk
Originally posted by simplius

STO has evolved into a REAL AAA MMO, albeit a small one

they have squished a ton of bugs , and added some very nice features

and its one of the very few mmos, that allow you to customize your character over and over,

for a very small amount of in game credits

welcome to the big League STO

Yeah , I'll take issue with a few things here. AAA ? Seriously , ever dealt with customer service ? How about server loads ? Customization of Characters ? Really that's your criteria for AAA ? Seriously ? It's a nice feature, but the core mechanics are weak and the game is basically CO dressed up to be ST. I think people with an agenda push this game farther forward then it deserves. It has some nice parts and not discounting the fun factor. As far as space games go , it's a failure. Sorry but 2-D movement with a stepped vertical movement just doesn't cut it. In fact the same movement found in in CoX, CO. But , hey why let things like that get in the way of glorifying what is a best a mediocre game, from a mediocre company.

customer service is bad everywhere now,,even at blizzard

go find an mmo with more , and better customization,,have you even seen the huge variety of creatures on ESD?

server loads is a measure of success,,that usually Means , that the playerbase is growing

core mechancics are made for the casual player

and it also was best F2P game, BEFORE this upgrade

not bad for a mediocre game

 

  koboldfodder

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Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 375

5/24/13 4:25:28 PM#12

If you look past the whole Star Trek thing, you will actually find that STO is not only a good game, but a very solid game.  It did not start out that way.  It was yet another awful MMO release where people just left the game and really never came back.  It took them a while to fix everything that was broken, and of course, no one came back so they were forced to go F2P.

 

But because there is a subscription in the game, it is not a blatant money grab like other PWI games (Neverwinter).  I think that you HAVE to spend money in this game, otherwise you will just have your basic ship which you simply cannot play with at medium levels.

 

This game's main problem is a core design problem.  It has ZERO to do with the themes found in Star Trek.  This game is 100% about killing people.  Every single Vice Admiral in the game is a genocidal mass murderer.  I cannot count how many people I have killed in this game.  It must be in the millions.  Ship after ship after ship, KABLOOIE.  No diplomacy, no subterfuge, nothing like Picard.  In STO, you shoot first and then shoot later.....then you get an idiotic lockbox as loot.

 

This is one of the IPs Cryptic somehow got their grubby hands on.  They also got the D&D license.  Both this game and D&D online have really nothing to do with the core values those franchises are about.  Strict shoot em up.

 

When you play this game, you will say to yourself "hey, you know this is not that bad of a game".  Then you will think about Star Trek and what it REALLY meant and you will end up saying "well, it had potential.....but I guess it was much easier to just blow up the bad guy then talk to him"

  BMBender

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Joined: 9/14/07
Posts: 560

5/25/13 10:00:16 PM#13
Originally posted by apanz3r
Originally posted by BMBender

AAA? uhn lol nope it aint bad but it aint no AAA title.

it's simple fact that the only thing keeping it around is the f2p model and the IP, take either of those away and it would disappear.  If it was just some random sci fy game and was judged purely on mechanics/technical attributes, customer service no one would play it. ergo it's not an AAA offering.

I think AAA is too generic.

The game have good graphic, good immersion and a lot of content. Pvp is fun and there is arena style pvp and a little bit of free world pvp.

You have ground action and space action.

Sure there is room to improve, some raid-boss stuff would be good but i think they do steady progress.

It looks like those days the scifi spece ships is kind of gone. If you look on scifi channel all you see is reality shows, teenagers with problems (hello caprica)  and some ordinary guys that have "powers" (hello alphas).

I think space /spaship genre is kind of dying, not sure why, maybe it does not fit in projections done by the young wolves in pubs and nightclubs ....

Eve is one of a kind and survives due to dedicated players base (hello to 2-4 alt accounts) and they grow also a little bit but the level of grieffing in that game is too much.

There will be to other scifi games Star citizen and elite dangerous but is too early to discuss about them as they are in early production.

So basically startrek online is the last Mohican of space ship mmos. If it fails we can go back to elves and orcs....

 

 

 

I'm not a fan of EVE either, however don't belittle it "growing a small bit"  it happens to be the only mmo on the market with a "growing population" and it's been doing that for years it's slow but it's steady,  Not even the WoW juggernaut is doing that anymore.  But my  point was in reference to STO and AAA; if you NEED a specific IP or NEED f2p to even exist it cannot be considered AAA if it needs a crutch.   If a game isn't mechanically/technically sound enough to stand on its own right it's a B grade offering at best.

 

Like I said STO isn't a bad game but it will never be a great one.

  Jyiiga

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Joined: 3/03/10
Posts: 1053

5/25/13 11:00:16 PM#14

I am enjoying the new Romulan content for what it is. Romulans were something I wanted to play as at release. I wish they were a fully fleshed out faction and not tacted onto the existing ones, but whatever.

Beyond that, I wish I had more choice in my story line. It is EXTREMELY linear... and the path can not divulge at all. You are a goodie goodie and you do what the scripted quest tells you to do. You can't join the Tal Shiar, you can't do anything but progress through the quest text with the answer that is given to you.

 

  MMOman101

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Joined: 2/05/08
Posts: 1230

5/25/13 11:03:08 PM#15

Is the ship combat still spin in a circle and shoot.  That got old in a hurry.  The Ship combat was just awful. 

Have they improved it?

  Magnetia

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Joined: 11/07/11
Posts: 1000

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5/25/13 11:45:35 PM#16

One thing I really enjoy about star trek is that reading the quest text helps you do the quests. Also not all quests are "shoot the guys" even though almost every quest ENDS that way they usually start off with a cool story and with lots of talking involved. A much needed break from useless quest text.

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  ktanner3

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Joined: 3/19/06
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5/26/13 8:57:32 AM#17
No the game is rated right where it should be. It's okay to pick up and play every now and then for its Starfleet Command style space combat, but it gets old fast.

Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  Livnthedream

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Joined: 3/20/13
Posts: 582

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5/26/13 9:07:35 AM#18
Originally posted by apanz3r
Is a great game, especially if you are in space mmo or in star trek. You have for free access to a all the content which is a lot. There instant grupping for "instances" and "raids". Community is very friendly. There is a cash shop but you don;t really have to use if you are mostly in pve or casual pvp. For hardcore pvp you would have to pay a little bit but is pretty much 1 time fee for a better ship. The gear is aquired trough "emblem farming" and maybe some lucky drops. Only downside is that it does not have space holding, but i think this is schedlued for future. All in all is enough interesting content for couple months without end-game grinding. Everything that require real money can be also bought trough playing (real money are just shortcut for farming).

Now if only it could be more underrated than your spelling...

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  Abimor

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Joined: 5/09/05
Posts: 292

5/26/13 9:17:25 AM#19
I bought this game for my wife and me when it launched what really did me in was the space combat. I think i would like it a whole lot more if you could fly in any direction. 
  Phry

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Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 5767

5/26/13 9:28:35 AM#20
Originally posted by BMBender
Originally posted by apanz3r
Originally posted by BMBender

AAA? uhn lol nope it aint bad but it aint no AAA title.

it's simple fact that the only thing keeping it around is the f2p model and the IP, take either of those away and it would disappear.  If it was just some random sci fy game and was judged purely on mechanics/technical attributes, customer service no one would play it. ergo it's not an AAA offering.

I think AAA is too generic.

The game have good graphic, good immersion and a lot of content. Pvp is fun and there is arena style pvp and a little bit of free world pvp.

You have ground action and space action.

Sure there is room to improve, some raid-boss stuff would be good but i think they do steady progress.

It looks like those days the scifi spece ships is kind of gone. If you look on scifi channel all you see is reality shows, teenagers with problems (hello caprica)  and some ordinary guys that have "powers" (hello alphas).

I think space /spaship genre is kind of dying, not sure why, maybe it does not fit in projections done by the young wolves in pubs and nightclubs ....

Eve is one of a kind and survives due to dedicated players base (hello to 2-4 alt accounts) and they grow also a little bit but the level of grieffing in that game is too much.

There will be to other scifi games Star citizen and elite dangerous but is too early to discuss about them as they are in early production.

So basically startrek online is the last Mohican of space ship mmos. If it fails we can go back to elves and orcs....

 

 

 

I'm not a fan of EVE either, however don't belittle it "growing a small bit"  it happens to be the only mmo on the market with a "growing population" and it's been doing that for years it's slow but it's steady,  Not even the WoW juggernaut is doing that anymore.  But my  point was in reference to STO and AAA; if you NEED a specific IP or NEED f2p to even exist it cannot be considered AAA if it needs a crutch.   If a game isn't mechanically/technically sound enough to stand on its own right it's a B grade offering at best.

 

Like I said STO isn't a bad game but it will never be a great one.

STO's time has long since passed tbh, it was a mediocre game before it even went F2P, and it hasnt really improved, that it took them this long to add romulans was a bit surprising, as its one of the things that was asked for before the game even launched. Its the same old too little too late, the only surprising thing here is that people still talk about the game, as for the AAA thing, it didnt even qualify as one of those at launch, still doesnt. its doubtful you can really even call the game a 'finished product' as there always seemed to be something missing in it.

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