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4/08/09 5:25:59 AM#76
Originally posted by caelach
What are you talking about grind RoM is one of the eayest games to reach max lvl in, now that they released a new region you can get from lvl 45-50 in a day.... ever play lineage 2 ? |
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4/08/09 6:03:27 AM#77
"Grind" is overused term. But countering it with how fast levelling is as much dumb. So what. You reach level cap. You deserve a medal for your accomplishment. Oh wait. RoM used to replace endless mob grind with basically restricted quest grind. It is like Lineage that will boot you from game for a day after an hour of combat and give you xp in batches every ten mobs. Now that's revolutionary change! Recent updates added enough quests (some lame "free xp" ones but still) that the daily grind is confined to higher levels of secondary class. More "grindy" games actually allow for more freedom of choice but besides this the issue was largely fixed. The game will never get mass success as it is anyway, basically because getting sucessfull would make it into horrible mess - with in-game botting, absolutely botched game ballance (ah forget ballance, that's distant dream, half of classes even serve no purpose as of now), buyable gear, owerpowered yet boring cash shop, instances filled with lagspikes, old content getting less accessible over time, money laundering, direct copies of wow code, you name it. Every new MMO just shows one thing - how good WoW really was even on release. You may not like the "MMO for dummies" premise (i absolutely despise it) but you cannot deny that companies fail to even copy it properly after years passed. RoM got responsive combat (it is just looks, it lags in backgroud) and seamless world - and stopped right there, exhausted and unable to comprehend core design decisions Blizz made years ago and put on display for everyone to see.
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4/08/09 8:22:10 AM#78
Every MMORPG that has character advancement is a grind in one form or another. Every one. Whether it's monster grinding, quest grinding, faction grinding, honor grinding, skill grinding, reputation grinding, or gear grinding, it doesn't matter... it's still designed to keep you playing for hours by grinding something. If that's a problem, then you (not you specifically) are playing the wrong type of game.
This is all just an opinionated spew of crap made out like it's fact and reeks of WoW fanboism. You mention lag several times. I have none of that except in very congested areas like Logar. Perhaps it's your connection or your machine? <shrug> You also mention botting and balance... name one MMORPG with a half-way decent player base that doesn't have a problem with both (please make my day and say WoW, I could use a good laugh). MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people. |
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4/08/09 8:36:30 AM#79
What are you people complaining. You can't find a better free to play mmo than Runes of Magic. Just go take a look. ROM is far ahead from other free to play ones. |
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4/11/09 2:12:59 PM#80
runes of magic took a nose dive in beta i know i played also and migrated to ether saga and was much more impressed witht he game not much has changed in the world of ether since they recieved the files from the chinese most translating and testing no nerfing at all so if your looking for a better mmo than runes test out ether saga and you'll see what i mean |
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4/12/09 5:35:22 AM#81
[Goes to ether saga page] [sees hello kitty manga graphics] [doesnt bother clicking the more info button] |
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4/13/09 4:49:44 PM#82
Originally posted by caelach
Hate to break it to you, but EVERY game out there is a money grubbing endeavor. Even "f2p" ones. |
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Originally posted by Thradar
Hate to break it to you, but EVERY game out there is a money grubbing endeavor. Even "f2p" ones.
There are companys that offer fair value, and there are those that try to decieve and fleece. ROM belongs to the fleece the customer category. |
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Kyleran
Jovian
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
4/15/09 5:48:07 PM#84
Originally posted by caelach
There are companys that offer fair value, and there are those that try to decieve and fleece. ROM belongs to the fleece the customer category.
I disagree with your assessment. They are very upfront about what the game offers and what it will cost you. (if you have the ability to reason and understand.) Yes, it costs money to be the best, so?
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4/16/09 7:37:33 AM#85
Originally posted by caelach
There are companys that offer fair value, and there are those that try to decieve and fleece. ROM belongs to the fleece the customer category. Wow oohhhh my good lord please give me a break. Firstly F2P simply means you dont have to pay a monthly subscription to play, yes they have a CS that will make lvling etc easyer but you dont have to use it. So if someone is lvling faster than you or has special gear because he is willing to fork out money, thats his choice, for a company to capitalize on that is called business. You dont have to use the CS, hence F2P I have never seen anyone bitching and moaning so much about a game, and am still there to see what happens, you said "Avoid this game" so why don't you do just that and stop trying to make up other peoples minds for them. The games I like might be crappy for you, the games you like might be crappy for me. According to me one of the best games ever is still the good old D&D and I mean the original D&D not D&D Online, but I am sure you will disagree to that. If you want to talk about a grindfest go play Rappelz or Cabal then you'll know what a grindfest is. So please if you feel so strongly that RoM is such a crappy game, pack your bags and find something else that you will like, and leave the people that actually do like the game to continue playing it "IF THEY WANT" nobody is forcing the damn game down on you! |
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4/20/09 11:09:35 AM#86
Originally posted by Sixpax
What part of "i despise it" reeks of fanboism? You are imagining things. I give credit where due, not one bit more. I mention lagspikes once. In instances, where it can be easily controlled and should not be present at all. Rest is issue of game design where they should not have complicated models and bottlenecks and mass events if the engine can not handle it and make better use of channels - but that is more complex issue I can understand. It is not that RoM has some issues with botting and ballance. It is completely out of whack. Bots are easy to make via in game scripting - not even addons (though those are publicly avaiable too) much less some external programs. Ballance just does not exist - you can have certain class with top DPS, range, AoE, instants, heals and bubble - and everyone can have high HP and defenses. The only thing that prevents RoM from being complete trash is that it is not massively successfull else the goldsellers take over it and turn it upside down. It is not that they get banned - they just don't care much about this game and you can bet the professionals have a good reason. Some minor whines about class ballance are omnipresent in MMOs but in RoM the issue is destroying the basics of economy and party play, or rather completely destroyed it already.
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And the rating for this game continues to drop. As more people play this, and also get to higher levels, they see it has no legs.
Some issues one might consider before spendin time or money on this:
Lag is complained about a LOT on forums.
The sound is very poor.
"Tweaks" (read nerfs) possibly lurk with every patch.
After level 30 it is even more of a grind.
The content is sparse.
The 5 zones are so small you can cross them in a moment with a mount.
There is only one race.
Many of the "dual class" choices are so useless they shouldn't even exist.
The devs do not listen to the suggestions from the players much.
Most all the toons look the same.
The classes are grossly imbalanced.
To name a few things.......
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4/21/09 10:50:19 AM#88
Originally posted by caelach blah, blah, blah - just keep repeating the same tripe over and over... It's obvious you don't like the game, since you repeat the same tired arguments over and over and over again, etc..., ad nauseum. Your only recent posts on this board are to bash the game. Get a life. If you don't like it, don't play it. Regarding your points, some are valid, some aren't. Regardless, it's a new game with a dedicated team and some promising new content coming ( a new race and starting area, for example ). Are Frogster and RoM perfect? Absolutely not. There are things I like about the game and things I don't, but--for me--the things I like overwhelm the things I don't, so far. Regardless, I'm having fun for the time being and fun is what playing games is all about. At one point, you liked playing the game, too. Since you don't enjoy it any more, move on and hopefully you'll find something you like better. ~Ripper |
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4/21/09 11:00:33 AM#89
It's one thing to give an opinion on a game, good or bad, but telling people what to do is something way different. People can make their own choices and opinions. You don't like the game, then I suggest (you see... not telling you what to do :P) you to move on to another one. Your output will be much more appreciated if it's constructive. "He who would learn to fly one day must first learn to stand and walk and run and climb and dance ; one cannot fly into flying" |
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4/21/09 9:40:57 PM#90
Originally posted by caelach
See answers in red If your only defense for trolling or hatred is a stupid tag line, Then you should quit life. |
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4/22/09 1:17:33 PM#91
[quote][i]Originally posted by caelach[/i] Lag is complained about a LOT on forums. You dont know what lag is before you have played Star Wars Galaxies and that is a "professional" game coz its not f2p ! Yes, there is lag, but still very playable. The sound is very poor. Music is very good. Some sound effects for skills and mobs need improvement and balance, but sound not so bad that you can not enjoy the game. "Tweaks" (read nerfs) possibly lurk with every patch. Yes, I hope so. I think a balanced game is more fun in the end than playing in god mode all the time. I wonder why you can complain about imbalance and nerf at the same time After level 30 it is even more of a grind. I wonder why there are so many level 50 then and still many fighting on to get to level 50. I think the add of Ravenfell area have helped not make it feel like grind The content is sparse. I think its ok. I think most players have to play for at least 2 month to have explored it all. The 5 zones are so small you can cross them in a moment with a mount. What is a moment to you ?. Here is a 20 min video of horse riding and not all areas are shown and video has added 50% to speed: http://www.wegame.com/watch/Horse_riding_in_Runes_of_Magic/ There is only one race. Yes I like that. Then they can focus on making more content and lager differences to the classes and balance You already know from start there is only one race. Many of the "dual class" choices are so useless they shouldn't even exist. If they are useless, you are free to not play with it and start a dual class that you dont find useless. The devs do not listen to the suggestions from the players much. I think they do for most part. It just takes time to add new ideas into the game. Most all the toons look the same. Because people make them look the same as most go for the same ideal. More could be fat or very small but no one wants to play that. The classes are grossly imbalanced. Thats why they nerf To name a few things....... Sure[/quote] Answers in yellow |
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Rating 7.5 and dropping. |
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Originally posted by rhinok blah, blah, blah - just keep repeating the same tripe over and over... It's obvious you don't like the game, since you repeat the same tired arguments over and over and over again, etc..., ad nauseum. Your only recent posts on this board are to bash the game. Get a life. If you don't like it, don't play it. Regarding your points, some are valid, some aren't. Regardless, it's a new game with a dedicated team and some promising new content coming ( a new race and starting area, for example ). Are Frogster and RoM perfect? Absolutely not. There are things I like about the game and things I don't, but--for me--the things I like overwhelm the things I don't, so far. Regardless, I'm having fun for the time being and fun is what playing games is all about. At one point, you liked playing the game, too. Since you don't enjoy it any more, move on and hopefully you'll find something you like better. ~Ripper
I suppose a forum is there for people to express opinion. I believe I have just as much right to express mine as you do yours. I no longer play the game, though I do check the status. |
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Originally posted by Sixpax
I agree. My consistant point has been that this game seems better than it is and people should not be in a hurry to spend money or invest time on it. Just a warning. Some people like to see opinion before they invest in these games. I simply state mine. |
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4/25/09 6:09:11 PM#95
Originally posted by caelach I suppose a forum is there for people to express opinion. I believe I have just as much right to express mine as you do yours. I no longer play the game, though I do check the status. Forums are for discussion. Regardless, expressing your opinion is one thing. What you're doing is another. Your original post didn't say "in my opinion". Instead, you attacked the game and stated it as if it were fact. Additionally, you persist in posting the same negative comments over and over and over again, even within the same thread. That's not discussion, it's trolling. In regards to the rating dropping so quickly, it's because another game just opened up their ratings (The Chronicles of Spellborn, for example) and has an extremely high initial rating (8.9 as of today). When this happens, it dramatically alters the curve used to calculate the ratings for the other games until the rating balances out. When Wizard101 launched, it initially had a rating of 10, which caused existing game ratings to bottom out until the rating for Wizard101 lowered. Here's a snippet of an email chain I had with Meddle regarding this issue (emphasis mine): Yes that most definitely is the case when a game is just moved to released status until there are a large number of ratings for it to even out the score. -Ben -----Original Message----- Thanks for the reply, Ben. Based on your answer, I'd guess that the ratings for other games (across the boards) were dramatically affected when Wizard101's ratings were finally published (it debuted at almost a 10). Now that it's ratings have dropped down significantly, the curve has evened out. Thank you Other than that, the only other probable explanation is that people are faking ratings in an effort to lower the score. In the last month, almost every post you've made has been the same old trolling, mostly in this thread. Considering you take so much effort to bash the game repeatedly and that Rubinare has taken the time to consolidate a bunch of non-contextual quotes on multiple boards and rate it a '1' on gamespot.com, it's not too unlikely that somebody might be trying to manipulate the ratings for RoM on mmorpg.com. ~Ripper
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Originally posted by rhinok I suppose a forum is there for people to express opinion. I believe I have just as much right to express mine as you do yours. I no longer play the game, though I do check the status. Forums are for discussion. Regardless, expressing your opinion is one thing. What you're doing is another. Your original post didn't say "in my opinion". Instead, you attacked the game and stated it as if it were fact. Additionally, you persist in posting the same negative comments over and over and over again, even within the same thread. That's not discussion, it's trolling. In regards to the rating dropping so quickly, it's because another game just opened up their ratings (The Chronicles of Spellborn, for example) and has an extremely high initial rating (8.9 as of today). When this happens, it dramatically alters the curve used to calculate the ratings for the other games until the rating balances out. When Wizard101 launched, it initially had a rating of 10, which caused existing game ratings to bottom out until the rating for Wizard101 lowered. Here's a snippet of an email chain I had with Meddle regarding this issue (emphasis mine): Yes that most definitely is the case when a game is just moved to released status until there are a large number of ratings for it to even out the score. -Ben -----Original Message----- Thanks for the reply, Ben. Based on your answer, I'd guess that the ratings for other games (across the boards) were dramatically affected when Wizard101's ratings were finally published (it debuted at almost a 10). Now that it's ratings have dropped down significantly, the curve has evened out. Thank you Other than that, the only other probable explanation is that people are faking ratings in an effort to lower the score. In the last month, almost every post you've made has been the same old trolling, mostly in this thread. Considering you take so much effort to bash the game repeatedly and that Rubinare has taken the time to consolidate a bunch of non-contextual quotes on multiple boards and rate it a '1' on gamespot.com, it's not too unlikely that somebody might be trying to manipulate the ratings for RoM on mmorpg.com. ~Ripper
You seem to have an issue with another person expressing their evaluation of this game. I certainly haven't disparaged anybody here for singing the games praises. I started the thread. People have responded and participated in it. I do the same. What you need to do is express your opinion ABOUT THE GAME, as I do, and not express YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE POSTERS involved in the discussion. What you are doing is 1000 times more trolling than anybody discussing the game is. |
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4/26/09 3:08:21 AM#97
Please..... If anyone believes the ratings on this site gives an accurate accountability of a game, then all I can do is feel sad for you. Anyone can vote, even when the game isn't even live. I have seen hundreds if not thousands of votes where people havent even played the game they were voted on or simply voted on it cause they felt the name of the game sucked. The best you can possibly do in terms of ratings for a game is to get into the game an experience it for yourself. If your only defense for trolling or hatred is a stupid tag line, Then you should quit life. |
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4/28/09 11:00:59 PM#98
"I think its ok. I think most players have to play for at least 2 month to have explored it all."
Seriously, you can ride with a horse from one end to the next of the world within 10-15 minutes and the lvl density of the mobs is huge. This game is one of the smallest mmorpgs i have seen, except you compare this to the general tiny item shop games besides perfect world which is huge in comparison to this.
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4/30/09 10:03:29 AM#99
Originally posted by caelach
Oh look it went up a point to 7.6... so much for that theory. The user rating is currently 8.2 btw. MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people. |
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4/30/09 11:21:55 PM#100
Originally posted by caelach
Hello, Let me try tossing a few things at you. 1) Lag is always a issue..it is also something were are always working on on our end..from improving server performance and optimizing the game. 2)The 'nerfs' you speak of are actually there to make classes more balanced for pve,pvp, and of course xmuting. 3)After lvl 30 is a grind..........Sorry but you must not be playing RoM. You have alot of quest to do and not to mention doing your 'dailys'. 4)Content is added in almost every patch..you do know Ravenfell is open? Not only that we have opened a few more instances as well. 5)As much as you talk about RoM you should have done some research on the forums...or any of the many gaming sites we share info with....The next race will be coming in june-august...and with that is new zones,gear,classes,skills etc.(Also Battle Grounds,GvsG,Sieges,ServervsServer) 6) The Dev's do indeed listen. The more and more I see what your complaining about tells me you don't even know what Rom has now and even more so how it is ingame ATM. 7)Each toon can look how ever they want..there is alot of differnt armor sets..from regulars to epics..and they all can be dyed or skind.
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