I have just started playing and I enjoy it. I like the house feature, the horse hire and the crafting.   Maybe it will get dull at end game, but I'll find that out.   I like the customability of the toons (though I've seen better toons).  I also like the dual class system.  This game wants to try something different.

Most MMOs are not much different from Muds of years ago.   Oh and if anyone doubts my experience, I have been playing MMOs for about 4 years (WOW, WAR, EVE, tons of free ones) and this one I have enjoyed more than most of the others and all of the free ones (though Perfect World was also as good) and I have paper rpg'd for 20 years.

the thing about is that its exact oppisite it sucks in the beggining and owns at the end thats way people dont like it they try get annoyed at the beggining and declare the game sucks but if you get max it owns

there hands down isn't any other f2p mmo out there that is of this quality.

This game doesn't suck. Nor does it go above and beyond any other F2Ps. Anyone who says this game isn't like WoW needs to get their eyes examined. Not only in looks, but in play style as well. The game is kind of like a "virtual splenda" it's a good substitute if you're willing to tolerate it.

The nature and history make WOW the game that all games will be measured against, love wow, hate wow, and strange enough all mmorpg's have got this relationship, you either love it or hate it, there seems to be no half measures in the world online role playing gaming. What I find interesting that people will always weight and measure a game against another game,and seem quickly to forget the unique experiences that games offer.

What I like about ROM:

It is free ( yes you can argue it is not truly free) but to me it makes a difference, I am not  a hardcore gamer, I enjoy games but I do not have time to play a hour everyday, thus with no subscription model I do not feel like I am obliged to play everyday andcan pop in and out whenever I feel like it. So in aspects of casual gaming rom hit the spot for me

The interface, I really like it, because it is wowish therefore familiar, rom has taken the best of wow and the add-ons and given it all in a handy package. I have not played wow in a about 2 years ( my account has been hijacked since the change over to whatever they have now, after basically being told by Blizzard to go get stuffed because I was not prepared to make an international call, i have given wow the big finger) any case I do not if wow includes a lot of the addon that you had to download seperately.

The class system, I like the more traditional classes that reminds me of AD&D (pen & paper based to those that are younger than 20)

The community, must say I have always experienced f2p communities more friendly / more forgiving than p2p communities, it is probably because the p2p attract the more hardcore crowd. I have been playing ROM only for 2 weeks and already my friends list exceed my LOTRO friends list. It appears that it is never difficult to get a quick group together to do something.

What not to like:

The grinding, but then again it is part and parcel of the whole mmorpg thing, I think the only mmorpg that I played that does not have so much grinding would be LOTRO, but there the gridning was cleverly hidden in a good story line

The Lore, this is definetely where ROM is very lightweight, I have been actively playing for about 2 days ( that would mean about 2 weeks in normal time), and still I havenot discovered the greater plot, why am I here, whatis this all about, WOW wasleightweight as well, but at least it had the lore of  Warcraft to back it, Guildwars has got excellent in depth lore, and obviously LOTRO has got the greatest fantasy work ever written to supply the lore and it was extremely well integrated in the whole experience, never once in LOTRO do you have any doubt what itis about.

Lag, man I seem to pickup a huge amount of lag, maybe it is just me, maybe it is just my  poor connection, but it is frustrating.

I can probably find some other stuff to "rave" or "suck" about. Maybe ROM should be evaluated for what it is, a nice little casual romp in a fantasy world.

Originally posted by lukyjay

Please, you dont need to play a game for 12 months+ to realise it sucks. The quests are lame and if you dont quest your grinding,

 

The best MMO atm is Warhammer, its just that noone knows how to play their class. I see healers trying to be damage dealers whilest their allies die! Wtf?

Pure gold. Your opinion has been rendered utterly worthless by this statement.

ROM's a decent enough game, pretty good when you consider its free to play.  It might contain game play elements you don't care for, (same with me) but overall it doesn't warrant special attention for being a "bad" game.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by lukyjay

Please, you dont need to play a game for 12 months+ to realise it sucks. The quests are lame and if you dont quest your grinding,

 

The best MMO atm is Warhammer, its just that noone knows how to play their class. I see healers trying to be damage dealers whilest their allies die! Wtf?

 

Pure gold. Your opinion has been rendered utterly worthless by this statement.

ROM's a decent enough game, pretty good when you consider its free to play.  It might contain game play elements you don't care for, (same with me) but overall it doesn't warrant special attention for being a "bad" game.

 

Agreed

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by lukyjay

Please, you dont need to play a game for 12 months+ to realise it sucks. The quests are lame and if you dont quest your grinding,

 

The best MMO atm is Warhammer, its just that noone knows how to play their class. I see healers trying to be damage dealers whilest their allies die! Wtf?

 

Pure gold. Your opinion has been rendered utterly worthless by this statement.

ROM's a decent enough game, pretty good when you consider its free to play.  It might contain game play elements you don't care for, (same with me) but overall it doesn't warrant special attention for being a "bad" game.

 

Disagree.

Kyleran's opinion is far from worthless.

I might not agree with Kyleran's position re: Warhammer or Rom but it' s the poster's OPINION.

I would argue that your opinion is, perhaps, worthless since you begin by devaluing Kyleran's.

Perhaps you should qualify your statements with IMHO,  "as far as I see it",  "from my perspective" or, if your ego permits, "I may be wrong but".

IMHO you need to memorize the following definition:

DEFINITION

Opinion

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

 Why do people insist on posting "This Game Sucks" posts without any real commentary? Why does ROM suck? Why must you bring in a totally unrealted game (WoW) and bash on it as well? Try formulating rational posts and posting thoughtful topic discussions instead of unsupported blanket statements. I love rants, but this isn't a rant, its troll bait with a useless survey

Yes, it's a wow clone.

No, that's not a bad thing.

However, there is something wrong with it.  I don't exactly know what it is.  It just feels odd.  Off somehow.  Even looking at the charecters provided for art on the games webstie.  Analyticaly speaking they are fine, but when you look at them they just seem... strange.  The art direction, charecter animations, combat effects, etc... are all the same.  It's as if someone took a whole bunch of elements created by people who had never met eachother and mashed them into a game.  No, that's not quite it either.

You know when you look at a generic bag of potato chips in the store sitting next to a name brand.  Something about the packaging is just different.  All the important things are there like the name of the product, what it is, nutritional information, and some kind of attempt to look flashy, but at the same time it just dosen't have the same production standard.  You can't really tell someone WHY it seems to be produced at a lower standard.  The specific elements when taken as seperate entities stand on thier own, but when put together just don't fit in with the rest of the shelf.

It's not just the art direction either (though that is a big part of it).  The engine shows you all kinds of pretty lights, some of them are way overdone while some are quite understated.  Some of the sounds (most of them actually) just bend against your ear wrong.  Like they don't belong.  At the same time, with all the settings maxed out, near objects and terrain look just good enough for government work yet not quite "Production" standard.

If you look at another game like perfect world or jade dynasty (these games are essentially crap) you will see high production standards and low standards on gameplay design (see...Korean Grindfest Trash..).

Aion falls into the same category.  I just let Aion go after realizing it was dog crap wrapped in a very pretty and well executed package.  I came to rom hoping that eery "I'm being watched" type feeling of low quallity had been worked out after all this time.  Guess I'll keep looking for something to tide me over till ST:O

On a closing note, I would like to say that I have since boycotted all Asian made MMORPG's free or not.  I came to this decision based on China's elimination of Aion's competition World of Warcraft through government action.  If ROM is the only free mmo made by a western company I can find till star trek online, stargate worlds, or ST:TOR releases then so be it. 

I encourage everyone to join me in my boycott of Asain made mmo's.

Originally posted by Astralglide

 Why do people insist on posting "This Game Sucks" posts without any real commentary? Why does ROM suck? Why must you bring in a totally unrealted game (WoW) and bash on it as well? Try formulating rational posts and posting thoughtful topic discussions instead of unsupported blanket statements. I love rants, but this isn't a rant, its troll bait with a useless survey

ok lets get to some specifics.

Truly idiotic quest placement. Take for example the first ant queen quest you get  ~ L45. Now at L45 you are not going to be maxed out & will have 2.5k - 8k hp depending on class & do about 2k-3k damage on attacks. The ant queen has over 1 MILLION hp! The quest suggest you put together a team(6 people in RoM). No 6 person L45-48 team is even going to inflict 25% damage before being completely destroyed. Look at the windmill in logar, the 2 bosses both have over 60k hp, the player at that level? Less than 1.5k at the most.

Elite skills that either dont provide a useful benefit or just act as a lower powered version of an ability you already possess(like a DoT spell that does less damage than the ability you got before L10).

Releasing more & more endgame content that  over 99% of the players can't do while not providing enough content to level up both of your classes without using dailies on one class almost exclusively after about ~L30.

The PvP is still broken since beta.

The total OP of the mage class as opposed to any other class in game. Now some people will deny it but just look at the number of M/P on the servers. My own guild has ~150 members, over 100 are M/P!!

For those who want to play casual, don't even bother after ~L52 as most endgame content requires 2-6 hrs at a time & you have to farm these literally dozens of times to get the equipment that you need to do the next instance.

Equipment that you have spent hard earned time & money making to allow you to do endgame content disappearing when they put out a new patch & the only response from customer service is "this is not something we can do anything about at this time"

Mentioning the above situation on the forum & getting banned for 2 weeks for "talking disparagingly about frogster".

The pet system that every character is supposed to have that will be able to level up & assist you in game, never implemented.

The fact that they sold diamonds on the 23rd & 24th of december via CC & paypal with the understanding that you cant use them in the AH or gift them for 30 days, then announcing on the 25th of december that you can NEVER use these diamonds anywhere except the item shop. Can we say false advertising.

Absoluely no game optimization, i have seen lag on an alienware area 51 desktop ! !

Do i need to go on?

Now before you start that " oh he is just a hater", i play RoM & like some of it, but it is a total failure when taken as a whole. It has(had) such potential that a lot of us hang around hoping for the best but it has been going downhill since the end of open beta.  : (

Originally posted by slipfeed

Yes, it's a wow clone.

No, that's not a bad thing.

However, there is something wrong with it.  I don't exactly know what it is.  It just feels odd.  Off somehow. 

It is half done. It is generally great game but certain parts are clearly unfinished. It is not the failure of missing parts and incomplete realease so common in MMOs, it works, yet it is shoddy patchwork at places. And as is the case with many F2P they never go back and polish the game unlike the big names. Hard to tell why when they have this solid foundation in place.

Another reason why F2Ps can feel off is lag. Good games camouflage lag and RoM is good game but it makes for a strange feeling when you seem to get crisp feedback yet it has some kind of blurry echo - it is hard to describe the feeling but easy to understand the reason. This is particular to F2Ps as they tend to run on cheap servers.

And there is something wrong with management. Most probably Frogster but might be difficulty communicating with chinese enterprise. May be both, may be the chinese are what they are and in this case are right not respecting their partner. This disconcert is so strong it can be felt by customers. Again, it is hard to describe but easy to understand if you knew the exact reason.

It is FAR from bad game though. Yeah, I wanted to go back, I updated the game (took ages as usually), made warden, looked at it, looked at forums, went here... well, it is good game and has a lot of new content from the last time i played regulary and I even have stash of tradeable diamonds, but... there is something wrong as you say.

Good fun for a while new players though

Just a couple of general comments I wanted to add to some of the recent posts...

1) If you're commenting about Frogster and/or their forums, please make it clear which one you're referring.  There's more than one and each is run independently of the others.  I don't see half the problems with the US Frogster as you guys do with the EU Frogster, not that the US Frogster is problem free.  Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about... look at this rant on the US forums: link. Frogster (US) closed the thread (rightfully so) and did not delete it.  Even though it was non-constructive criticism, it was handled professionally and they didn't overreact to him using some harsh comments about the game.  There are numerous other examples just like this one on the US forums.

2) I agree that the polish isn't what it could be, but I think you guys expect way to much out of a F2P MMO.  Often times it's compared (unfavorably) to a P2P MMO, which really isn't very fair to RoM.  They don't have the budget of WoW so you're certainly not going to get WoW content/quality.  If you want WoW content/quality, then pay $15/month and go play it.  I'd love to see comparisons of RoM to other MMO's which are free to download/login/play (and yes, that disqualifies GW <snicker>).  I've played a few of the well-known ones and they've always sucked after less than one day for me, yet a year later I'm still playing RoM.

RoM is a fine game. i dont know why so many people are fussing about it. i haven't seen any bots and only a few gold spammers, although i have only been playing for a few days.yes it is ALOT like WoW, which is good and bad, but if you really compare the two, i think you'll find that WoW is far better in almost every aspect of the game.

i haven't played many MMORPGs (about 5 or 6) but if theres one thing i've learned, its that no MMORPG is, or ever will be, perfect. they all have something wrong with them, no matter how you look at it, especially F2P MMORPGs. you just have to accept them for what they are. you can't fuss over every little thing. if you dont like it, try a different one, its free after all. theres no point in making hate threads, especially for reasons like this. a WoW clone? who cares?

P.S. to the guy that said "The best MMO atm is Warhammer ".  Warhammer is far from the best MMORPG. it may have the best PVP, but the game as a whole isn't that great.

Originally posted by Korgborg

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by lukyjay

Please, you dont need to play a game for 12 months+ to realise it sucks. The quests are lame and if you dont quest your grinding,

 

The best MMO atm is Warhammer, its just that noone knows how to play their class. I see healers trying to be damage dealers whilest their allies die! Wtf?

 

Pure gold. Your opinion has been rendered utterly worthless by this statement.

ROM's a decent enough game, pretty good when you consider its free to play.  It might contain game play elements you don't care for, (same with me) but overall it doesn't warrant special attention for being a "bad" game.

 

Disagree.

Kyleran's opinion is far from worthless.

I might not agree with Kyleran's position re: Warhammer or Rom but it' s the poster's OPINION.

I would argue that your opinion is, perhaps, worthless since you begin by devaluing Kyleran's.

Perhaps you should qualify your statements with IMHO,  "as far as I see it",  "from my perspective" or, if your ego permits, "I may be wrong but".

IMHO you need to memorize the following definition:

DEFINITION

Opinion

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

 

 

Well said!

I think the cs is getting worse