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daniel!!!
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Joined: 12/04/04
i play on guild wars (all of em)and well any other decent mmorpg's |
this is only going to be short, but i believe this game is amazing, especaily for it being F2P, yes it has its downsides, but what eles do you expect, i havnt fount a F2P mmorpg as good as this yet. 
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Originally posted by loudstar
Hello, Let me try tossing a few things at you. 1) Lag is always a issue..it is also something were are always working on on our end..from improving server performance and optimizing the game. 2)The 'nerfs' you speak of are actually there to make classes more balanced for pve,pvp, and of course xmuting. 3)After lvl 30 is a grind..........Sorry but you must not be playing RoM. You have alot of quest to do and not to mention doing your 'dailys'. 4)Content is added in almost every patch..you do know Ravenfell is open? Not only that we have opened a few more instances as well. 5)As much as you talk about RoM you should have done some research on the forums...or any of the many gaming sites we share info with....The next race will be coming in june-august...and with that is new zones,gear,classes,skills etc.(Also Battle Grounds,GvsG,Sieges,ServervsServer) 6) The Dev's do indeed listen. The more and more I see what your complaining about tells me you don't even know what Rom has now and even more so how it is ingame ATM. 7)Each toon can look how ever they want..there is alot of differnt armor sets..from regulars to epics..and they all can be dyed or skind.
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ROM IS very much a lagfest.
Your "balance" is proclaimed a nerf by untold numbers on the ROM forums.
You say it is not a grind, yet you mention dailies, which are exactly that, a grind.
I am aware of Ravenfall. If the content of ROM were doubled tomorrow it would still be lacking.
Since you use the term "we" I assume you are an official game person. Shame on you for calling people liars who don't find your feeble game acceptable. That more than underscores my point about ROM and the devious way it is presented.
Edited due to quoting edited post and replying to the edited bit - GaiusMarius.
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Originally posted by Sixpax
Oh look it went up a point to 7.6... so much for that theory. The user rating is currently 8.2 btw.
It was around 8.4 before they nerfed it 3 days from release. It has generally been slowly dropping. Not that the rating here is the end-all. I just pointed it out. I expect when GW2 comes out ROM will be a ghost town. |
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Originally posted by daniel!!!
Guild Wars is f2p. You think ROM is better than that? That's crazy talk. |
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Originally posted by caelach
Guild Wars is f2p. You think ROM is better than that? That's crazy talk. Sorry, but you're wrong. Guild Wars is not F2P. In order to play, you need to buy the software license. Granted, the game has been out for a while now, so you can get the software licenses cheaply, but if you paid full retail for the original episode, the two subsequent episodes and the expansion, then you've paid a fair amount of money. Even today, if you don't buy the trilogy @ $50, you can spend up to $120 for the three episodes and expansion if you buy them a la carte. On top of that, there are several add-ons:
So, while you can play "Guild Wars" for free, you had to spend money just to get into the game, then spend additional money for the new episodes and expansion pack. After you're in the game, you have the option to spend even more money, unlike an F2P where you can download and play for free, but have the option to spend money if you want. ~Ripper |
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Originally posted by rhinok Sorry, but you're wrong. Guild Wars is not F2P. In order to play, you need to buy the software license. Granted, the game has been out for a while now, so you can get the software licenses cheaply, but if you paid full retail for the original episode, the two subsequent episodes and the expansion, then you've paid a fair amount of money. Even today, if you don't buy the trilogy @ $50, you can spend up to $120 for the three episodes and expansion if you buy them a la carte. On top of that, there are several add-ons:
So, while you can play "Guild Wars" for free, you had to spend money just to get into the game, then spend additional money for the new episodes and expansion pack. After you're in the game, you have the option to spend even more money, unlike an F2P where you can download and play for free, but have the option to spend money if you want. ~Ripper
Face it. GW cash shop type things are mostly for people who just don't know what to do with their money. The original Prophecies campaign alone is many many times larger than ROM. I suppose it is splitting hairs to say GW if f2p or not. This site clearly distinguishes on it's game list which games are free to "play" and which are free to "download". GW is free to play but the client is not free. You can buy the original GW for about $12-18 on Amazon these days. Pretty cheap to get a game that is far far superior to ROM in every way.
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Originally posted by rhinok Sorry, but you're wrong. Guild Wars is not F2P. In order to play, you need to buy the software license. Granted, the game has been out for a while now, so you can get the software licenses cheaply, but if you paid full retail for the original episode, the two subsequent episodes and the expansion, then you've paid a fair amount of money. Even today, if you don't buy the trilogy @ $50, you can spend up to $120 for the three episodes and expansion if you buy them a la carte. On top of that, there are several add-ons:
So, while you can play "Guild Wars" for free, you had to spend money just to get into the game, then spend additional money for the new episodes and expansion pack. After you're in the game, you have the option to spend even more money, unlike an F2P where you can download and play for free, but have the option to spend money if you want. ~Ripper The PvP access kit is basically the pvp only part of the game, instead of the campaigns if I recall. You don't need the bonus mission pack for anything except something new. No reason for 2008, game of the year/pvp/skill unlocks/makeover/storage even if you are new. Tbh. Playing the game to get 90% of that is a lot more fun than anything else. You are right, F2P games are just that. Free to download and play. And 99% of them are ungodly terrible. Or worse than that. |
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Originally posted by caelach
It was around 8.4 before they nerfed it 3 days from release. It has generally been slowly dropping. Not that the rating here is the end-all. I just pointed it out. I expect when GW2 comes out ROM will be a ghost town.
That's odd... it's up to 8.2 now. Guess it's making a comeback huh? I like how it's relevant enough for you to post about when it's dropping, but not so much when it's rising (BTW we have a word for that which I'm sure you can guess). Keep the negative info coming though Chicken Little, I'm sure it's making a dent in RoM's popularity.
MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people. |
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Originally posted by Sixpax
It was around 8.4 before they nerfed it 3 days from release. It has generally been slowly dropping. Not that the rating here is the end-all. I just pointed it out. I expect when GW2 comes out ROM will be a ghost town.
That's odd... it's up to 8.2 now. Guess it's making a comeback huh? I like how it's relevant enough for you to post about when it's dropping, but not so much when it's rising (BTW we have a word for that which I'm sure you can guess). Keep the negative info coming though Chicken Little, I'm sure it's making a dent in RoM's popularity.
I especially like how refuting his GW is f2p comments and comparisons to RoM is "splitting hairs"? It's okay for him to make apples vs. oranges comparisons, but he simply dismisses any rebuttal. ~Ripper |
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Originally posted by caelach Sorry, but you're wrong. Guild Wars is not F2P. In order to play, you need to buy the software license. Granted, the game has been out for a while now, so you can get the software licenses cheaply, but if you paid full retail for the original episode, the two subsequent episodes and the expansion, then you've paid a fair amount of money. Even today, if you don't buy the trilogy @ $50, you can spend up to $120 for the three episodes and expansion if you buy them a la carte. On top of that, there are several add-ons:
So, while you can play "Guild Wars" for free, you had to spend money just to get into the game, then spend additional money for the new episodes and expansion pack. After you're in the game, you have the option to spend even more money, unlike an F2P where you can download and play for free, but have the option to spend money if you want. ~Ripper
Face it. GW cash shop type things are mostly for people who just don't know what to do with their money. The original Prophecies campaign alone is many many times larger than ROM. I suppose it is splitting hairs to say GW if f2p or not. This site clearly distinguishes on it's game list which games are free to "play" and which are free to "download". GW is free to play but the client is not free. You can buy the original GW for about $12-18 on Amazon these days. Pretty cheap to get a game that is far far superior to ROM in every way.
Seriously, how can you even compare RoM to Guild Wars? Guild wars isnt even an MMORPG game. I bought GW and the only thing good about it was the story. To me, the gameplay was absolutely aweful. Missions are horrible in that game due to the fact that if any of your group accidently gets disconnected, you either have to try and go on without them or start over. And more times than not, you end up having to start over AFTER you already spent an hour + going through the mission. At least that was the experience I had in that game. Sure the graphics were nice but the controls, the powers, everything about combat in that game made me want to puke. And I wont even go into the triggers used for spawning. It almost made me feel like I was playing a 3rd rate version of NeverWinter Nights. Someone else said that GW got 2008's game of the year. Well that goes to show you just how bad 2008 was for good games.
Seriously though. I have yet to see any real reason why you hate RoM so much. The only parts of your arguements that have even had some validity to them have been the size of the world and lack of races. So, instead of just listing off a bunch of things off the top of your head, Why dont you step back and actually explain why you feel this game is so bad. If you feel this strongly about a game, your going to have to give much more details for people to take you serious. |
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Originally posted by rhinok
That's odd... it's up to 8.2 now. Guess it's making a comeback huh? I like how it's relevant enough for you to post about when it's dropping, but not so much when it's rising (BTW we have a word for that which I'm sure you can guess). Keep the negative info coming though Chicken Little, I'm sure it's making a dent in RoM's popularity.
I especially like how refuting his GW is f2p comments and comparisons to RoM is "splitting hairs"? It's okay for him to make apples vs. oranges comparisons, but he simply dismisses any rebuttal. ~Ripper
You don't have to pay ongoing fees to play GW. That by definition is F R E E T O P L A Y! |
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Spadez88
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Joined: 8/14/08
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There is no such thing as a F2P game. No matter what you say to your self. Yes for the 1st bit you play the game yes it free but then you find you need to spend money to kill things in pvp. Not only that you will find that the exp is soo high to lvl you must not buy and exp pack that will times exp by 2. yet my all time favriote is when lvl 5s can get gear that tops yours at lvl 50 just by spending some extra cash. so then you have to buy cash items just to make your dps decent, i also find that they base alor of there monsters HP and DEF higher just to make you buy cash items so you can kill them to get exp. that its self is a brilliant market plan. Yet in the end, Yes its free to down load but one way or another they will get that money by twisting your sack. I played at enought F2P games to know this. Yet GW is a game that is actually free to play. besides the buying of the game and Expacks its self CENTER] |
Originally posted by Spadez88
I have played a fair number of free to play games myself and out of all of them, I bought things for 3 games. Not because I needed it to "compete" but because I liked the items they offered. 1. Pangya. I bought clubs and cloths because they looked cool. Not because I needed them. I had a few friends who played that game for over a year and never spent a dime in it. Sadly they went out of business. To bad more people didnt buy clubs and cloths in that one. 2. Silk Road. I bought the squirrel to run around and pick up gold. Was not needed in any way but was fun and nabbed me a few extra gold coins in the process. 3. Runes Of Magic. I have bought numerous things in it trying them out. The only item I think is really worth it is the mount. And as others have posted, you dont even need it, it just makes it easier to get around. Does buying the stuff that raises stats help? Sure, a little. But not nearly at the rate your claiming. None of these are true PVP games. And none of these made a level 5 as good as a level 50. I am going to be brutely honest here. If your going to play a F2P mmo that has PVP in it and it has a cash shop in it, then the people that does it are just idiots. In PVE it matters very little, but in PVP every little bit does help. Its not going to make you uber but it will make you a fair bit better than a non paying person. This is not so much due to the cash shop items as it is due to the total imbalance of PVP in F2P games. When you stack that with cash shop items then you will see the bigger difference. As for GW being free to play. Ok, if you buy the game new (40-50 bucks) and you buy the expansion packs (20-30 bucks a piece), that is not a free game. Sure you dont have to pay monthly fees but you still had to buy the game and expansions. Did you read that significant part? let me restate it. Sure you dont have to pay monthly fees but you still HAD to BUY the game and expansions. But I guess we are just nitpicking unlike the over exaggeration we are seeing people complaining about having to buy from cash shops and how uber they will make you. If someone wants to buy cash shop items, I see no problem with it. 1. it helps support the game and keep the game developers making more content and 2. it can give that person some extra enjoyment in the game. Can you spend a ton of money in cash shop games? Of course you can. However You can spend a lot of money playing regular mmo's to. heck, I currently have 3 subscriptions going and I bought the games. I also play RoM and bought stuff in there to. Do I really need to be paying and playing 4 different MMOs? No, but I enjoy them all and am willing to pay to play the games that I like. When you get a free one that actually is pretty decent to play, its a no brainer to want to keep playing it. The thing that most people forget is that even if it is free to play, they have to make money in order to keep the game up and keep developing it. Since the game is free and there is no monthly fees, they have to make money from their cash shop. The problem I see with it is they dont make the cash shop items good enough to make people to want to buy their items. Maybe they should make those items uber then they would make more money.
Oh and lets not forget the new trend that sony is trying to bring to the table. Monthly fees AND a cash shop! That is what people really should be complaining about. However, in sonys defense, the items in the cash shop for eq1 didn't look like they were worth it at all. |
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Originally posted by caelach That's odd... it's up to 8.2 now. Guess it's making a comeback huh? I like how it's relevant enough for you to post about when it's dropping, but not so much when it's rising (BTW we have a word for that which I'm sure you can guess). Keep the negative info coming though Chicken Little, I'm sure it's making a dent in RoM's popularity. I especially like how refuting his GW is f2p comments and comparisons to RoM is "splitting hairs"? It's okay for him to make apples vs. oranges comparisons, but he simply dismisses any rebuttal. ~Ripper You don't have to pay ongoing fees to play GW. That by definition is F R E E T O P L A Y! No, it's not. By that definition, console titles are all F2P, too. The bottom line is you had to pay to play it. On top of that, if you want the major new content (additional episodes and or extras), you have to pay in order to play it, too. ~Ripper |
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Originally posted by caelach
Guild Wars is f2p. You think ROM is better than that? That's crazy talk.
I most definitely consider RoM better than GW in many aspects. The whole non-persistent world, nauseatingly repetitive PvP, and quirky character controls that don't respond like you expect them too being the most notable. And if you love GW that much, why are you trolling the RoM forums... oh right, the separation anxiety thing... got it.
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Free to play is just a marketing trick to get more gamers and hope at least 20% pay for their items to make some million cash....the whole hey its free bubbling is just wrong, you get always disadvantages if you dont get items. And the worst is that you dont know how they manipulate it, at least with a monthly fee you know what you get and you cant manipulate single items, is it drop rate, cost per item or something else. Unfortunately this f2p seems to be a success not only in asia anymore, very sad for the players who want quality mmorpgs. |
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Originally posted by spizz
"Free to play" means exactly that: free to play. RoM falls into this category since you don't have to shell out one cent to download it, create an account, and play it. Not one cent. Free to play does NOT mean the game company isn't making money. Should you CHOOSE to spend money, that's your decision. You're not forced to do so and if you decide not to, guess what... you can STILL play and even enjoy every bit of the content that the paying customers enjoy. All this nonsense about having to spend money is just that, nonsense. MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people. |
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Originally posted by Sixpax
I most definitely consider RoM better than GW in many aspects. The whole non-persistent world, nauseatingly repetitive PvP, and quirky character controls that don't respond like you expect them too being the most notable. And if you love GW that much, why are you trolling the RoM forums... oh right, the separation anxiety thing... got it.
I am on this forum expressing opinion. That's one of the prime functions of a forum of this type. But you and some others seem to object to some who express an opinion that isn't the same as yours for being here at all. I don't question you being here. I don't agree with you, but I also do not disparage you personally for having a different opinion, as you seem to do me. I think that says it all, now don't it?. I will let the tremendous success of GW stand for itself. ROM would be so lucky as to enjoy half of the acclaim GW has garnered. |
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Originally posted by rhinok I especially like how refuting his GW is f2p comments and comparisons to RoM is "splitting hairs"? It's okay for him to make apples vs. oranges comparisons, but he simply dismisses any rebuttal. ~Ripper You don't have to pay ongoing fees to play GW. That by definition is F R E E T O P L A Y! No, it's not. By that definition, console titles are all F2P, too. The bottom line is you had to pay to play it. On top of that, if you want the major new content (additional episodes and or extras), you have to pay in order to play it, too. ~Ripper From Wikipedia; "Free-to-play (F2P)/(FTP) refers to any game that has an option of allowing its players to play without paying." Certainly, GW fits this description. The key word here is "play", not "own". Using your logic ROM is not F2P because you need to own a computer, own an appropriate OS installed on it and have an internet connection to play it.
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Originally posted by caelach I especially like how refuting his GW is f2p comments and comparisons to RoM is "splitting hairs"? It's okay for him to make apples vs. oranges comparisons, but he simply dismisses any rebuttal. ~Ripper You don't have to pay ongoing fees to play GW. That by definition is F R E E T O P L A Y! No, it's not. By that definition, console titles are all F2P, too. The bottom line is you had to pay to play it. On top of that, if you want the major new content (additional episodes and or extras), you have to pay in order to play it, too. ~Ripper From Wikipedia; "Free-to-play (F2P)/(FTP) refers to any game that has an option of allowing its players to play without paying." Certainly, GW fits this description. The key word here is "play", not "own". Using your logic ROM is not F2P because you need to own a computer, own an appropriate OS installed on it and have an internet connection to play it.
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If I did write it, I would say GW is free to play ;).
But we digress. This is about the fact players should avoid the poor mmorpg that is ROM. Free to play or not. |
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Hes, I like this game, free and okish. It's a grind allright but who cares. Casual fun. No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please. |
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I would have to agree with marzguitarz....my experience with the 'support' at Frogster has been very bad also. I would not recommend this game to anyone. At least not to anyone that uses PayPal. It seems Frogster America, the company that accepts payments for the in-game Diamond purchases does not like PayPal, and apparently thinks everyone that uses PayPal is a potential thief. Therefore, they have put a hold on all purchases made through PayPal, not allowing you to use the Diamonds in their 'Auction House' in-game, and also on the ability to purchase gifts for other players using the diamonds. When i complained about this through the game site support, i simply got NO response at all. (2 messages). And when i complained to Frogster, they just sent me the canned response that it was to prevent fraud. Then when i said that was not acceptable to me, they just sent me a curse note saying...'complain to PayPal', and we will BAN YOUR ACCOUNT!!!! Which I did, and they did....in fact, i believe they banned my account prior to me doing anything further. I personally will not play this game, or any other game that Frogster is associated with, and have already uninstalled it from my system. If you have any complaints about the game, and send a support ticket in, be prepared to be banned...or at best be told to find another game....seems that's all they know how to do. If you can't tell by the above, i rate this game and their support .......'Horrible'! |
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i think i need to think if i wil continue to polay this game or search another game!! |
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it's been a while and if the game system doesn't change i think i' gonna for get about this game !! |
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