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World War II Online Forum » General Discussion raquo; V1.31 Preview...This is the big one!

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  BEMotormouth

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9/01/09 10:27:29 AM#1
  sa1yaman

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9/01/09 10:35:48 AM#2

I'm back when hills are no longer pyramids made of 4 triangles. 

PS: sup, DOC?

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  willemakit

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Posts: 5

9/04/09 1:40:30 PM#3

i wonder why the game runs so poorly with the lack of depth now and how it is going to run like a wet dream with all the eyecandy?

Also, i notice no fps meter with the ground video's. Was that on purpose?

If you look at the air video, the fps meter hovers around 29 -30 fps with nothing going on. With my 295gtx i run around 150 fps. I also notice someone got sloppy editing the video at the end where the fps was at 24 fps.  :(

  Trueth

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Joined: 8/21/08
Posts: 298

9/04/09 1:45:09 PM#4
Originally posted by willemakit

i wonder why the game runs so poorly with the lack of depth now and how it is going to run like a wet dream with all the eyecandy?


 

One post wonder - Are you a sock puppet for BF1942?

 

About 12 of us from the 2001 days are already planning on coming back once this update is live.

  willemakit

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9/04/09 1:50:30 PM#5

not at all.  i have only read posts before never commented. But after watching the new video's i noticed that and wanted to see if anyone knew the answer. See i do remember the sneaky trick of hiding fps crs did at e3 years back.

  Vexe

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Joined: 5/25/06
Posts: 554

Hoorah

9/04/09 1:55:47 PM#6

Hiding? That's just not something people usually show.

  willemakit

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Posts: 5

9/04/09 1:58:11 PM#7

one would think ,but with crs it is better to put a stickup note over the fps meter than turn it off. lol i guess the 12 fps didn't look so good.

  hardcase

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9/04/09 2:08:58 PM#8

If you look closely at the notes you will see that they are going to be able to increase the fps, more so than they did in 1.29 or 1.28.not sure which that jumped my fps from 45 to 90 plus in city fighting. That fps complaint is more out of date than you know.
 

  willemakit

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9/04/09 2:20:03 PM#9

ok

  spizz

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9/10/09 7:01:58 AM#10

Before - After Screenshots which show the difference with the new update

....looks nice

 

 

  nubadak

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Posts: 160

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11/14/09 2:45:16 PM#11

Acualy this looks like big changes...I'm temped to re-sub. This game still has one thing NO other game in the MMO market has atm "open totaly interactive world." It's also historicaly accurate.

Very interesting indeed, I'll have me eye on this one.

 

Nub's!

 

Will this update be enough to bring players back in droves?

YES! the graphic's alone will bring back ton's.
NO! the eye candy is nice but are the moutians still big triangles?
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  angriff

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Joined: 5/30/09
Posts: 149

11/14/09 7:43:36 PM#12

Honestly they are only updating the graphics a little and the ragdoll effects.  They are making mechanics changes to the capture routintes and the ability to shoot at enemy once your Depot has been captured has been lost in favor or stopping griefers from spawn camping in a spawnable depot..  Unfortunately they are not adding anything new to do or anything decent mechanics wide from the previews.  This may change in the release as they may have been keeping something secret which they often do.  If you left the game because of the boring aspect of something you were playing then you will not see anything new to do in the previews.  So I would wait till after release which seems to be forever since this took almost a year this patch.


The basic problem with this game is that they dont test it thoroughly enough and things get broken that they spend the next 4 months fixing.  I think it is quality control of the original code or at least that is what the dev team keeps saying as the main excuse... "old code is full of stuff not needed or they dont understand?"  Take for example the graphics update on they spent so much time on for the bridges.  They are nicer than the old ones but a bridge has fewfunctions and that is to cross, buld or blow up.  When it was put in you would think they would look at it yet they dont.  The ATGs guns (m1) in particular can no longer sit on the bridge and kill tanks approaching.  The collision routine is broken making the atg bounce all over and sink into the bridge.  A previous patch allowed the infantry fall through if a boat was passing underneath.  They fixed the boat problem and seemingly created the atg problem.  A vicious circle that has been the major reason this game has never achieved the same status of other really nice MMPORG games as far as graphics and such.  There are mechanics that worked 4 years ago that have been broken for 3.5 years after a patch caused them not work.  So what you did that was fun before you cant do anymore. ( ex is getting infantry onto your boat with the crew nets) .  It is really frustrating from a dev side I am sure but even more so from a paying customer side.

 

I would wait if you are looking for something new.   

  angriff

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11/14/09 7:52:45 PM#13
Originally posted by spizz

Before - After Screenshots which show the difference with the new update

....looks nice

 

 

Be aware that most of that nicety  grass stuff , the players can turn off because of FPS issues and you cannot hide in safely.

  vladakov

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Joined: 9/03/09
Posts: 713

Made.

11/14/09 7:53:13 PM#14

 when will it go live?

  WesKhan1

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11/21/09 10:27:11 AM#15
Originally posted by angriff

Be aware that most of that nicety  grass stuff , the players can turn off because of FPS issues and you cannot hide in safely.

 

Actually it says in one of the blogs that some things won't be able to be turned off no matter what for balance purposes.  I'm going to assume one of those will be grass.  Let's hope so.

  angriff

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11/21/09 10:32:42 AM#16
Originally posted by WesKhan1
Originally posted by angriff

Be aware that most of that nicety  grass stuff , the players can turn off because of FPS issues and you cannot hide in safely.

 

Actually it says in one of the blogs that some things won't be able to be turned off no matter what for balance purposes.  I'm going to assume one of those will be grass.  Let's hope so.

 

On thing you must learn if you ever want to play this game is never hope.

  WesKhan1

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11/21/09 3:14:22 PM#17
Originally posted by angriff
Originally posted by WesKhan1
Originally posted by angriff

Be aware that most of that nicety  grass stuff , the players can turn off because of FPS issues and you cannot hide in safely.

 

Actually it says in one of the blogs that some things won't be able to be turned off no matter what for balance purposes.  I'm going to assume one of those will be grass.  Let's hope so.

 

On thing you must learn if you ever want to play this game is never hope.

 

I've played it and......ya you're right...sigh

  Trenchgun

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Posts: 305

12/07/09 2:08:53 AM#18

 This game will always be a failure until they remove the AI that kills you through bushes after you just spent 10 minutes running into town.

  Szyporyn

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Joined: 2/01/04
Posts: 98

12/29/09 8:03:36 PM#19

The grass clutter than you can turn off is not something you can hide in anyways - the tall grass that you can hide in is not clutter, and can not be turned off.

See you are in here trolling Angriff ;)

  levsix

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Joined: 12/12/07
Posts: 364

I'm boycotting 10-pigger MMOs.

2/12/10 8:52:15 PM#20

The open beta of the 1.31 starts February 22nd for premium subscribers.

 

Check it out!

 

 

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  angriff

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4/01/10 11:14:31 PM#21

No, I can just be brutally honest.  It is not something you can do in the CRS forums without power monger forum mods thinking they are you daddy for saying that the HC is full of such persons.

The 1.31 game has taken a year to even get into open beta.  It is really not that big a deal.  The differnce in the game graphics you will forget about in 3 hours of play.  Sad too because it took them a year to develope it.  Well, they did have to put in all the Chinese goverment's demands for censorship and anti-addiction alarms for players who play this game more than 3 hours.  

Again it is somewhat nicer to walk around but does nothing for gameplay.  There is nothing new or different after a year of developement save some buildings that are no longer 2d graphics.  There is new capture mechanics that will make it near impossible to play the game as a small group or squad and achieve anything. 

The devs have somehow become fixated with making player concentrator mechanics.  This has all but ruined the big room aspect the game was so famous for.  Now you go into the only fight allowed.  Yes, it is a big fight but it is meaningless for the individual player becoming lost in what these mechanic have created as a small room zerg fight like all the other small room and stupid  army games on the net. 

Instead of building this game into a true WWII total war game they have become fixated into making it like all the other simulations on the net where players vie for statistics and who killed me last stats.  There is nothing in this game past the Gamelin Campaign or the first 2-3 weeks of the Battle of France.  There is no Weygand campaign and the introduction of the Italians.  There is no North African campaign that was highlighted in videos by the dev group over 5 years ago.  In fact it no longer bears any resemblance to a wargame save unit manuvering.

  Szyporyn

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Joined: 2/01/04
Posts: 98

4/23/10 8:27:34 AM#22


Originally posted by Trueth

Originally posted by willemakit

i wonder why the game runs so poorly with the lack of depth now and how it is going to run like a wet dream with all the eyecandy?



 
One post wonder - Are you a sock puppet for BF1942?
 
About 12 of us from the 2001 days are already planning on coming back once this update is live.

Come talk to us when you been back for a month and let us know if you are goin to stay ;-)

  Pauker

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Joined: 1/02/10
Posts: 46

4/26/10 10:53:54 AM#23
Originally posted by angriff

No, I can just be brutally honest.  It is not something you can do in the CRS forums without power monger forum mods thinking they are you daddy for saying that the HC is full of such persons.

The 1.31 game has taken a year to even get into open beta.  It is really not that big a deal.  The differnce in the game graphics you will forget about in 3 hours of play.  Sad too because it took them a year to develope it.  Well, they did have to put in all the Chinese goverment's demands for censorship and anti-addiction alarms for players who play this game more than 3 hours.  

Again it is somewhat nicer to walk around but does nothing for gameplay.  There is nothing new or different after a year of developement save some buildings that are no longer 2d graphics.  There is new capture mechanics that will make it near impossible to play the game as a small group or squad and achieve anything. 

The devs have somehow become fixated with making player concentrator mechanics.  This has all but ruined the big room aspect the game was so famous for.  Now you go into the only fight allowed.  Yes, it is a big fight but it is meaningless for the individual player becoming lost in what these mechanic have created as a small room zerg fight like all the other small room and stupid  army games on the net. 

Instead of building this game into a true WWII total war game they have become fixated into making it like all the other simulations on the net where players vie for statistics and who killed me last stats.  There is nothing in this game past the Gamelin Campaign or the first 2-3 weeks of the Battle of France.  There is no Weygand campaign and the introduction of the Italians.  There is no North African campaign that was highlighted in videos by the dev group over 5 years ago.  In fact it no longer bears any resemblance to a wargame save unit manuvering.

 I think we often played on different sides at the game, but i fully support your statement. That shows, the problems of the game are not side-specific but bad game-mechanics. Sometimes i believe, that the developers just must hate their own game and favour subscriptions just for their Off-topic-section (shure, the OT-posters didn´t care much for the game at all as long as they can "conversate" in "their OT-section. Well, easier for developer to sell accounts without the need to do something for them. It is possible the most desired group of subscribers any developer team is dreaming about).

Easy for devs to claim that many new subs are sold - LOL - just take a look on the join date of the latest new member:

The latest member is registered almost 10 months ago and just logged into the "playschool-forums" for just a single day. - Yeah, i buy blindly, that subscribers have increased.

They announced so much new things in the past, but they should be glad, when the game barely will run; the 1.31 will not be the miraculous patch which magically bring thousands of players into the game. Eye-candies should be a kind of side-effect, but never THE WONDERPATCH!

During the past 4 - 5 years, the developer wasn´t able to implement a new tank, nor the long needed SPA or SPAA - not to speak about the half-hearted implemented TOEs, which harm the game more than it´s doing good. As long as they don´t review the absolutly stupid brigade warping/stacking and refusing the create a better gameplay, i don´t think, its much worth to waste time in the game.

Okay, i´ve bought a 5-years prepayed builders account for giving the developers my share of game supporting - but still today, i do not see any single intention for an improvement of the gameplay (or at least bringing back the pre-TOEs fun at gameplay). For that i feel somewhat "betrayed" by the devs and when the game continues into the current direction, i don´t waste another cent for devs (i´d rather throw my money out of the window, because then at least i can see it fly away).

I don´t say, that the devs don´t work their ***ses off - but for what; for just coding their game to death instead of saying: "Okay, we´ve done something wrong and it went too far in a direction we also don´t like. We will try to fix that with the next patches" - Such a statement at least is what i am expecting to read from devs before i consider to renew any of my subscriptions.

Shure i would like to see at least every year a new triad of vehicles, planes and ships for the next 5 or 7 years, besides the improvements of gameplay - but thats something what never going to happen. Regardless of selling the game-license to chinese vendors and getting a lot (financial) ressources, it is much more a question of willingness.

  Chirugai

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4/26/10 2:38:48 PM#24

Please stay on topic and refrain from political conversation. 

 

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  Szyporyn

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4/27/10 4:17:34 AM#25


Originally posted by Chirugai
Please stay on topic and refrain from political conversation. 
 
"Religion and Politics
MMORPG.com is a site to discuss massively multiplayer online roleplay gaming. While users are encouraged and permitted to use our Off-Topic forum to discuss real life and non-MMORPG gaming, threads concerning sensitive subjects such as religion, politics, or ethics may be locked or deleted if determined out of hand by the MMORPG.com moderator staff."

Who and what are you refering to?