Earthrise Forum » General Discussion raquo; Terrible game, imo.

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Yalexy Elite Member Joined: 12/17/10 Posts: 586	7/27/11 7:21:43 PM#21 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) The game has some very critical design-flaws if you ask me. The approach with no safer areas for example is not a very good one. It's just like that in Darkfall and Mortal Online and EvE shows how it would be better. Next is the meterial-aqquisition from mobs. This is buggin me even more, as it makes the hole crafting very tedious and slow. Grinding mobs for days to produce items that you'll loose fast isn't exactly appealing. Furthermore this type of ressource-gathering isn't something that requires planning and teamplay. The targetting-system isn't that good either imho. I'd go without the soft-lock and fully FPS or tab-targeting. This current system with it's f'd up hitboxes isn't that good imho. Then the thing with now introduced territorial warfare with it's siege-timers and teleporters. It's boring as hell. Attacks should be possible at any given time and there shouldn't be teleporters, especially not for the attackers. Respawning basically (well, getting there in no time) in the middle of the fight is making this whole thing into a mindless zerg-fest imho. There's more little things, but these are very cruicial design-decisions that need to be revamped imho besides the technical issues to make this game worthwile playing. Atleast they fixed some skills and stuff so that the combat isn't that fast anymore. Those harbinger-stun combos were really bad in PvP, but I actually stopped caring about it I guess. With Firefall there'll be a fun SciFi MMOFPS coming out, allthough it won't have the depth, but it atleast is fun to play in it's current state allready (had the chance at PAX for a few minutes) and allthough not SciFi there's more hope that ArcheAge will get it right then hope left for Earthrise at my side. Am I bitter about Earthrise? Sure I am. But I spend some three years pre-release talking with people from Masthead in dev-chats, testing a few month beta giving feedback etc and then they release this POS. Oh, and then ofc I gave them some good money in hopes that they'll work hard to get the points mentioned right or atleast improve them to some good degree. I think I leave this as is.
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lizardbones Elite Member Joined: 6/11/08 Posts: 4202	7/27/11 9:03:50 PM#22 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) It doesn't just have some design flaws. It has some basic coding issues. I'm not sure if anti-aliasing is actually supported, but it doesn't work with my ATI HD5770 card. The entire world just turns yellow. There are settings for shadows, but they don't exist. At least, not where you can actually see them. Upon getting to the 'combat training' level my character got stuck running forward. No combination of keys would stop my avatar from running forward as far as it could. I could not exit the world or the game because my character kept running. I had to Alt-F4 the game to get out. The game has some very basic issues. It doesn't matter how 'cool' it is or how much 'potential' it has if it can't do any of the basic things (like not get your character stuck running). Join the League For Gamers.
Adun Novice Member Joined: 8/11/10 Posts: 67	7/28/11 4:59:25 PM#23 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Yalexy The game has some very critical design-flaws if you ask me. The approach with no safer areas for example is not a very good one. It's just like that in Darkfall and Mortal Online and EvE shows how it would be better. I generally would agree with this, however it's a pretty moot point for the present. Especially considering how there are hundreds of places to XP effeciently and how rapidly a new player can equip themselves as a vet. Next is the meterial-aqquisition from mobs. This is buggin me even more, as it makes the hole crafting very tedious and slow. Grinding mobs for days to produce items that you'll loose fast isn't exactly appealing. Furthermore this type of ressource-gathering isn't something that requires planning and teamplay. Don't agree here. ER is very heavily PVP focused, and the PVE in the game doubles as endless PVP hotspots. If you have maxed recycling skills and are a decent BR, the farming is barely even a chore since you can get a massive amount of resources without too much effort for crafting, as well as possibly run into PVP. In addition, getting resources from PVE is only one way. Now with TW out the mines will produce what you need, as well as the fact you can just play the market for what you're looking for at any given time. The targetting-system isn't that good either imho. I'd go without the soft-lock and fully FPS or tab-targeting. This current system with it's f'd up hitboxes isn't that good imho. Pretty vague stuff right here. What do you mean? The whole game is based on TPS combat where you aim all your attacks or fire off angles, with the exception of the RL which is mostly splash attack so you still have to position yourself and your target very carefully. Then the thing with now introduced territorial warfare with it's siege-timers and teleporters. It's boring as hell. Attacks should be possible at any given time and there shouldn't be teleporters, especially not for the attackers. Respawning basically (well, getting there in no time) in the middle of the fight is making this whole thing into a mindless zerg-fest imho. It's yet to be seen exactly how TW will play out because of the bugged timers. So not going to comment here, and neither do I think should you out of lack of actual experience with it. There's more little things, but these are very cruicial design-decisions that need to be revamped imho besides the technical issues to make this game worthwile playing. Atleast they fixed some skills and stuff so that the combat isn't that fast anymore. Those harbinger-stun combos were really bad in PvP, but I actually stopped caring about it I guess. With Firefall there'll be a fun SciFi MMOFPS coming out, allthough it won't have the depth, but it atleast is fun to play in it's current state allready (had the chance at PAX for a few minutes) and allthough not SciFi there's more hope that ArcheAge will get it right then hope left for Earthrise at my side. Am I bitter about Earthrise? Sure I am. But I spend some three years pre-release talking with people from Masthead in dev-chats, testing a few month beta giving feedback etc and then they release this POS. Oh, and then ofc I gave them some good money in hopes that they'll work hard to get the points mentioned right or atleast improve them to some good degree. I think I leave this as is. I respect your opinion (now that you've actually even bothered to give one) but I still get the feeling you haven't really played the game much since beta. That you kind of just gave up on it and followed it casually, and when you saw it wasn't going as you would have liked even further, you grew that much more detached. Your points hardly stand out as some kind of sorely needed-to-be-revamped mechanics, but rather merely your own personal pet peeves. For me personally, they have done so much work on this game since launch and really moved it in a much better, stable direction that I have no bitterness at all about it launching prematurely, that time has come and gone. Things are looking great now and while we still have a very long way to go I'm very optimistic about the future of the game. It doesn't look like things went your way with this title though, so I'm going to respect your opinion, even though I don't agree with most of what you pointed out. Cheers. Responses highlithed.
NightBandit Hard Core Member Joined: 1/25/07 Posts: 361 Make friends not money, then wealth will follow.	7/28/11 5:02:41 PM#24 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I had 2 accounts one for my son and one for me. I got my money back on both was shocking game.
camelguy Novice Member Joined: 9/02/10 Posts: 7	7/28/11 5:14:32 PM#25 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Game has too many fundamental flaws this long after release. They keep focusing on the wrong things and the development team is too small. I had some fun back when the game released. I was able to overlook quite a few bugs and terrible performance when there was a population. Now the game is extremely low pop and many of these same bugs and bad performance are still around. I've always liked sandbox games and really did give this one a chance. Darkfall is a much better experience at the moment and that is saying a lot.
Apeg Apprentice Member Joined: 2/01/08 Posts: 92	7/28/11 5:22:35 PM#26 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) All negative comments, including most of what Yalexy and lizard are saying remind me of my first month in UO about 12 years ago. It was a disaster, I couldn’t grasp the game although a friend of mine was having a blast, so I quit and lost 1 year before coming back and realizing that this was the best game for its time and so I spend the next 2-3 years with it. Those were the best 3 years of my gaming life. I will not repeat the same mistake that I made with UO and I will stick with Earthrise regardless of some technical issues and lack of polish. I prefer to play that rather than the polished MMO which will win this year’s award Rift or the upcoming disaster SWTOR (Don't get me wrong, I will buy it although I know it will not meet my expectations). To everyone complaining, Earthrise is not the game for you guys, move on and let people who enjoy it play and let people who want to try the game try the game. Earthrise is not a game for everyone, it is not for people looking for a polished title or people who cannot troubleshoot simple problems with their Windows applications or people who have a 1Mbit connection and complain that there is lag and most importantly people who spend few hours or few days in game and think that they have seen it all and they have grasped the game mechanics. Yes, Earthrise has a bad starting experience and I blame the devs for that, but if you run past it, the game becomes a real jewel, just like UO was for me years ago.
thebigchin11 Novice Member Joined: 6/04/10 Posts: 544	7/28/11 5:27:46 PM#27 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) It is truly the only game where I feel truly annoyed at spending money on it. It was like buying a pair of jeans with the arse cheeks missing, not only have you not bought what you want, you look like a twat for having bought it. Chins
Gdemami Hard Core Member Joined: 9/23/08 Posts: 4564	7/28/11 5:32:39 PM#28 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Apeg I will not repeat the same mistake that I made with UO and I will stick with Earthrise regardless of some technical issues and lack of polish. There is a major difference between your UO experience and Earthrise. With UO, you quit the game because of insufficient knowledge about the game and personal dislike but technical and other issues of Earthrise already highlighted here are objective and valid. It isn't a matter of liking but objective description of game issues, not really any complaining. Sure, no game is for everyone but some things simply should not happen, regardless whether you like the game or not: https://play-earthrise.com/account/precovery
thebigchin11 Novice Member Joined: 6/04/10 Posts: 544	7/28/11 5:34:52 PM#29 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Gdemami Originally posted by Apeg I will not repeat the same mistake that I made with UO and I will stick with Earthrise regardless of some technical issues and lack of polish. There is a major difference between your UO experience and Earthrise. With UO, you quit the game because of insufficient knowledge about the game and personal dislike but technical and other issues of Earthrise already highlighted here are objective and valid. It isn't a matter of liking but objective description of game issues, not really any complaining. Sure, no game is for everyone but some things simply should not happen, regardless whether you like the game or not: https://play-earthrise.com/account/precovery Gd, unable to access it cause no longer a member. Swift explanation of that link? Chins
Gdemami Hard Core Member Joined: 9/23/08 Posts: 4564	7/28/11 5:39:36 PM#30 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by thebigchin11 Gd, unable to access it cause no longer a member. Swift explanation of that link? You need not to have a registered account. Just click the link and read the message. Or open their site, click Account -> Log in -> Forgotten password
lizardbones Elite Member Joined: 6/11/08 Posts: 4202	7/28/11 6:16:43 PM#31 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Gdemami Originally posted by thebigchin11 Gd, unable to access it cause no longer a member. Swift explanation of that link? You need not to have a registered account. Just click the link and read the message. Or open their site, click Account -> Log in -> Forgotten password Seriously? That is astounding. That's like one of the first things you setup before you even release your game. Sometimes before you even have a game to release and you just have a hype website. Join the League For Gamers.
lizardbones Elite Member Joined: 6/11/08 Posts: 4202	7/28/11 8:51:09 PM#32 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by lizardbones Originally posted by Gdemami Originally posted by thebigchin11 Gd, unable to access it cause no longer a member. Swift explanation of that link? You need not to have a registered account. Just click the link and read the message. Or open their site, click Account -> Log in -> Forgotten password Seriously? That is astounding. That's like one of the first things you setup before you even release your game. Sometimes before you even have a game to release and you just have a hype website. Every time I try to play it gets worse. I pick up a mission to kill giant bugs, leave the compound and the game will not let me enter combat mode. I just get a system message that says, "You cannot enter combat mode in a demilitarized area." or something similar to that. Standing next to me is another player happily shooting away at the bug that is killing me and knocking me around. It's ironic that find such a bug in a mission to kill giant bugs. If you are one of the few people who have fun playing this game, more power to you. I'm glad you found a game you like. I don't think there are going to be too many people joining you. Join the League For Gamers.
thebigchin11 Novice Member Joined: 6/04/10 Posts: 544	7/28/11 8:55:08 PM#33 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by lizardbones *Originally posted by lizardbones* *Originally posted by Gdemami* *Originally posted by thebigchin11* Gd, unable to access it cause no longer a member. Swift explanation of that link? You need not to have a registered account. Just click the link and read the message. Or open their site, click Account -> Log in -> Forgotten password Seriously? That is astounding. That's like one of the first things you setup before you even release your game. Sometimes before you even have a game to release and you just have a hype website. Every time I try to play it gets worse. I pick up a mission to kill giant bugs, leave the compound and the game will not let me enter combat mode. I just get a system message that says, "You cannot enter combat mode in a demilitarized area." or something similar to that. Standing next to me is another player happily shooting away at the bug that is killing me and knocking me around. It's ironic that find such a bug in a mission to kill giant bugs. If you are one of the few people who have fun playing this game, more power to you. I'm glad you found a game you like. I don't think there are going to be too many people joining you. lizard, I really wanna a refund on this. If I could afford a solicitor I would in a moment because it is faulse advertising. Have never been more annoyed about a game. Chins
lizardbones Elite Member Joined: 6/11/08 Posts: 4202	7/28/11 9:00:52 PM#34 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by thebigchin11 Originally posted by lizardbones *Originally posted by lizardbones* *Originally posted by Gdemami* *Originally posted by thebigchin11* Gd, unable to access it cause no longer a member. Swift explanation of that link? You need not to have a registered account. Just click the link and read the message. Or open their site, click Account -> Log in -> Forgotten password Seriously? That is astounding. That's like one of the first things you setup before you even release your game. Sometimes before you even have a game to release and you just have a hype website. Every time I try to play it gets worse. I pick up a mission to kill giant bugs, leave the compound and the game will not let me enter combat mode. I just get a system message that says, "You cannot enter combat mode in a demilitarized area." or something similar to that. Standing next to me is another player happily shooting away at the bug that is killing me and knocking me around. It's ironic that find such a bug in a mission to kill giant bugs. If you are one of the few people who have fun playing this game, more power to you. I'm glad you found a game you like. I don't think there are going to be too many people joining you. lizard, I really wanna a refund on this. If I could afford a solicitor I would in a moment because it is faulse advertising. Have never been more annoyed about a game. At least I'm playing a free trial. I would actually be angry if I had only spent the $14.99 on Steam to buy the game. That's probably about 3 British Pounds right now...maybe 6 Euros. :-) But still. I'm not sure how they should advertise the game, but 'Greatest Sandbox Experience Ever' isn't it. They really should have nixed building a giant world (and I believe it really is a big world) and spent that money on the game engine and their servers. Le sigh. A Wild 'World of Tanks' Appears! Join the League For Gamers.
thebigchin11 Novice Member Joined: 6/04/10 Posts: 544	7/28/11 9:03:49 PM#35 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by lizardbones *Originally posted by thebigchin11* *Originally posted by lizardbones* *Originally posted by lizardbones* *Originally posted by Gdemami* *Originally posted by thebigchin11* Gd, unable to access it cause no longer a member. Swift explanation of that link? You need not to have a registered account. Just click the link and read the message. Or open their site, click Account -> Log in -> Forgotten password Seriously? That is astounding. That's like one of the first things you setup before you even release your game. Sometimes before you even have a game to release and you just have a hype website. Every time I try to play it gets worse. I pick up a mission to kill giant bugs, leave the compound and the game will not let me enter combat mode. I just get a system message that says, "You cannot enter combat mode in a demilitarized area." or something similar to that. Standing next to me is another player happily shooting away at the bug that is killing me and knocking me around. It's ironic that find such a bug in a mission to kill giant bugs. If you are one of the few people who have fun playing this game, more power to you. I'm glad you found a game you like. I don't think there are going to be too many people joining you. lizard, I really wanna a refund on this. If I could afford a solicitor I would in a moment because it is faulse advertising. Have never been more annoyed about a game. At least I'm playing a free trial. I would actually be angry if I had only spent the $14.99 on Steam to buy the game. That's probably about 3 British Pounds right now...maybe 6 Euros. :-) But still. I'm not sure how they should advertise the game, but 'Greatest Sandbox Experience Ever' isn't it. They really should have nixed building a giant world (and I believe it really is a big world) and spent that money on the game engine and their servers. Le sigh. A Wild 'World of Tanks' Appears! We devalued our pound to boost exports which is what greece. portugal, spain and ireland (near bust) cannot do which means it costs us a hell of a lot to pay in euro's. Chins
ConjureOne Novice Member Joined: 1/07/07 Posts: 166	7/29/11 11:09:35 AM#36 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by lizardbones But still. I'm not sure how they should advertise the game, but 'Greatest Sandbox Experience Ever' isn't it. Well if they added sci-fi avatar-based to "greatest sandbox exp ever" it woudl be legit, also "greatest" is a subject of a lot of speculation, for one it is great, for another is tard. Troll.
Redemp Elite Member Joined: 7/30/05 Posts: 613	7/29/11 10:27:45 PM#37 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Hate to say it ... but even though they have made leaps and bounds the past few months, this game is still a worse sandbox than Mortal online. Indie or not .. games this incomplete and poorly developed should not require subscriptions.