This is the text from Hellgate overview.

"The RPG Authority – Flagship Studios was founded by the core creators of Diablo, one of the biggest PC gaming franchises in history with over 13 million units sold worldwide – they are the first, last and only voice in the world of action RPGs. "

Is this a joke? I mean.. Diablo was a RPG? That's some bloody news for me. Is Tropico a RPG too because you roleplay el presidente on tropical island?

Can we call Maxis studio The RPG Authority, because they were the creators of Sims, the best RPG ?

You know RPG requires more than just building a character and smashing your right mouse button. Someone should tell those guys ..

Originally posted by Thillian

This is the text from Hellgate overview.

"The RPG Authority – Flagship Studios was founded by the core creators of Diablo, one of the biggest PC gaming franchises in history with over 13 million units sold worldwide – they are the first, last and only voice in the world of action RPGs. "

Is this a joke? I mean.. Diablo was a RPG? That's some bloody news for me. Is Tropico a RPG too because you roleplay el presidente on tropical island?

Can we call Maxis studio The RPG Authority, because they were the creators of Sims, the best RPG ?

You know RPG requires more than just building a character and smashing your right mouse button. Someone should tell those guys ..

Also Diablo is an action RPG, infact seeing there core members have created Diablo they have an right to claim the titel for first, last and only voice.

Originally posted by Coman

 

You also gonna make thread about the 100s of Asian MMO website claiming they have the most awared game in [Instert Asian country]?

 

Also Diablo is an action RPG, infact seeing there core members have created Diablo they have an right to claim the titel for first, last and only voice.

No Diablo is not RPG nor action RPG nor combat RPG or whatever. And I don't care who or what calls it that way, I don't care if those 18 years old kids called reviewers, writing for pseudo review websites like IGN or gamespot. RPG is a genre with its specifications. Diablo doesnt meet any of those.

Is tropico a game called political RPG? Sims called life RPG?, Europa 1400 Guild called economical RPG? No same as Diablo is not action RPG, it's just action game.

 In tropico or Europa 1400 guild you have a story, you have a character with traits you pick and improve. That's just not enough to call a game a RPG. And Diablo has nothing more.

Originally posted by Thillian

 

Originally posted by Coman

 

You also gonna make thread about the 100s of Asian MMO website claiming they have the most awared game in [Instert Asian country]?

 

Also Diablo is an action RPG, infact seeing there core members have created Diablo they have an right to claim the titel for first, last and only voice.

No Diablo is not RPG nor action RPG nor combat RPG or whatever. And I don't care who or what calls it that way, I don't care if those 18 years old kids called reviewers, writing for pseudo review websites like IGN or gamespot. RPG is a genre with its specifications. Diablo doesnt meet any of those.

 

Is tropico a game called political RPG? Sims called life RPG?, Europa 1400 Guild called economical RPG? No same as Diablo is not action RPG, it's just action game.

 In tropico or Europa 1400 guild you have a story, you have a character with traits you pick and improve. That's just not enough to call a game a RPG. And Diablo has nothing more.

You don't care about reviewers you think are 18 years old, but we must take your words like bible, right?

Respect is mutual, lacking in respect, equally mutual.

Originally posted by Orthedos

 

You don't care about reviewers you think are 18 years old, but we must take your words like bible, right?

 

Respect is mutual, lacking in respect, equally mutual.

No I want you to think about it. Do you really think flagship studios are RPG authority ? Do you really think Diablo was a RPG? If so can you explain why? Not just copy-paste crap from ign.

Um, didn't you all know that original poster is right?

Diablo is NOT an RPG because nobody in their right mind can imagine themselves as a knight in black armor with a huge weapon, slaying demons, completing quests that are not in real life but are only in fairy tales, or anything of the sort.

Oh wait, I'm sorry, this just in! I'm getting a report that says - What part of ROLE PLAYING GAME don't you understand? ROLE PLAYING as a character that is created from the ground up by you, given the limitations of whichever game is definitely ROLE PLAYING. PLAYING the ROLE of someone in a GAME is definitely in there. You talk so much about RPG elements, yet you don't seem to be able to distinguish your own interpretation that 99.999999% of the world do not agree with, and complete and utter falacy.

It's alright though, I can play a schweet action game with RPG elements whether or not its labeled "RPG". What others label a game has nothing to do with what the game truly is or how I interpret it, and I imagine that you think the same way... Just... Way out there as if you were from some far away planet that nobody has heard of or will ever discover in hopes of saving their brains and intelligence.

Originally posted by Tekkaman

Um, didn't you all know that original poster is right?

 

Diablo is NOT an RPG because nobody in their right mind can imagine themselves as a knight in black armor with a huge weapon, slaying demons, completing quests that are not in real life but are only in fairy tales, or anything of the sort.

 

Oh wait, I'm sorry, this just in! I'm getting a report that says - What part of ROLE PLAYING GAME don't you understand? ROLE PLAYING as a character that is created from the ground up by you, given the limitations of whichever game is definitely ROLE PLAYING. PLAYING the ROLE of someone in a GAME is definitely in there. You talk so much about RPG elements, yet you don't seem to be able to distinguish your own interpretation that 99.999999% of the world do not agree with, and complete and utter falacy.

 

It's alright though, I can play a schweet action game with RPG elements whether or not its labeled "RPG". What others label a game has nothing to do with what the game truly is or how I interpret it, and I imagine that you think the same way... Just... Way out there as if you were from some far away planet that nobody has heard of or will ever discover in hopes of saving their brains and intelligence.

According to what you've said, it is an opinion, not a fact. Diablo is in fact an RPG, it had elements as most RPG games, even if it didn't have the most roleplayable environment. In all honesty, it has skills, stats, and so on like every other MMORPG out there. It had online play, it is not an MMO, but it is an an ARPG. It's like saying Flyff isn't an MMO"RPG" because people can't imagine themselves as chibi characters.

Honestly, if you go around judging things based on roleplayability (Ironic, I know, but) the point being, if you do it that way, there will be no RPG out there. As, not many people roleplay in video games, nor imagine themselves as them. They simply play the game. No matter how you look at it, there is a difference between RPG Video Games, and Table Top Roleplaying games. You cannot judge one based on the other, ever, it is completely different scapes.

Originally posted by Tekkaman

 

Oh wait, I'm sorry, this just in! I'm getting a report that says - What part of ROLE PLAYING GAME don't you understand? ROLE PLAYING as a character that is created from the ground up by you, given the limitations of whichever game is definitely ROLE PLAYING. PLAYING the ROLE of someone in a GAME is definitely in there. You talk so much about RPG elements, yet you don't seem to be able to distinguish your own interpretation that 99.999999% of the world do not agree with, and complete and utter falacy.

 

Then Maxis can call RPG authority as well, because in Sims you define your characters, pick their skills and improve during gameplay?

Can we say Tropico is RPG game, because you choose abilities and special traits for the president your role-play throughout the game?

Seriously, does someone here consider Flagship Studios as the RPG authority? I can think of 10 other companies that were doing great RPG's for 5-10 years, not just 2 crap action games with cheap storyline about some evil-diablo destroying the world, with no dialogues, no subplots, no interaction just pure mousebutton smash. That's not a RPG for me.

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Originally posted by Thillian
This is the text from Hellgate overview.
"The RPG Authority – Flagship Studios was founded by the core creators of Diablo, one of the biggest PC gaming franchises in history with over 13 million units sold worldwide – they are the first, last and only voice in the world of action RPGs. "
Is this a joke? I mean.. Diablo was a RPG? That's some bloody news for me. Is Tropico a RPG too because you roleplay el presidente on tropical island?
Can we call Maxis studio The RPG Authority, because they were the creators of Sims, the best RPG ?
You know RPG requires more than just building a character and smashing your right mouse button. Someone should tell those guys ..

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I know its shocking!almost as shocking as some sources claiming vanguard to be a playable mmo.

Originally posted by Thillian

 

Originally posted by Tekkaman

 

Oh wait, I'm sorry, this just in! I'm getting a report that says - What part of ROLE PLAYING GAME don't you understand? ROLE PLAYING as a character that is created from the ground up by you, given the limitations of whichever game is definitely ROLE PLAYING. PLAYING the ROLE of someone in a GAME is definitely in there. You talk so much about RPG elements, yet you don't seem to be able to distinguish your own interpretation that 99.999999% of the world do not agree with, and complete and utter falacy.

 

Okay interesting.

 

Then Maxis can call RPG authority as well, because in Sims you define your characters, pick their skills and improve during gameplay?

Can we say Tropico is RPG game, because you choose abilities and special traits for the president your role-play throughout the game?

Seriously, does someone here consider Flagship Studios as the RPG authority? I can think of 10 other companies that were doing great RPG's for 5-10 years, not just 2 crap action games with cheap storyline about some evil-diablo destroying the world, with no dialogues, no subplots, no interaction just pure mousebutton smash. That's not a RPG for me.

 

By  the way, IE, Diablo had a great storyline, it was unique, and it spanded over both games. People never bother to watch the Cinimatics or read the dialog anymore.

I think I lost a few brain cells reading the OP's statements

meh.. I see where the OP is coming from... Personally I must say that even if Diablo I and II were quite fun hack'n'slash games with RPG elements I wouldn't really call it an RPG... I have yet to meet Anyone who actually roleplayed in that game - no doubt they exist though.

Even if D1 and D2 had RPG elements they're hardly compelling - though the story is quite well told - but for Flagship Studios to call themselves "The RPG Authority" is just laughable to me.

Flame me if you wish, I don't really care - I have my own opinion, you have yours.