In another one shard game, EvE online, people sometimes are concerned if they can ever catch up with the vets that started 2003. As an EU player i can only laugh on that : 

in EU,  players who start with the new skill system (stamina: 1 chars, in contrast with the stamina 7 or 9 vet chars) will NEVER catch up with the older ones no matter how hard they train or how much they invest, because of a change in skillgain mechanics. If they spend the same ammount of cash and spend the same time in hunting like the vets, they won't even get close to the vet's skills with that new system.

And that's the most frustrating thing i see with this game. In order to hunt efficient, you need to have high skills, so you can use weapons with high dmg/cost.

You can use them at highest effeciency if you are level ~100 in hit and damage profession. But you can't get there anymore, only the old characters were able to get there, before the change.

You see that vets with agility of 137, while you stuck at somewhere around 50 and spend thousands of peds in ammo (1000 ped = 100$) without climbing one level up.

Same goes for the evader profession, i chipped in till evader 22 - and since then i hunted dozens of hours med level mobs (argonaut-atrox etc.), spent several vivos t10 (L) for healing, and didn't even get half a level in evade  ... then i scan some vets and see a nice 68 or even 84 evader.

So one might ask - why do you bother about others, are you jealous ?

The point is that we new players have to compete with the vets. I'm not talking of pvp and oilrigs, where they easy kill any newb. I'm talking about indirect competition: if they hunt the same mobs with their ueber weapons (in terms of eco aka dmg/ped)  at an eco level we will never be able to get, sell the same loot - new player will always be on the loser side.  Because  the loot system is designed with taking them into account. You can't let newbs or mediums hunt close to break-even, as then those vets (which can hunt the same mobs more economical) will hunt profitable and generate loss for the company. But if you make the vets hunt at break-even, the newbs will make a solid loss on the long run (with their bad-eco guns due bad skills)  etc.

That's quite frustrating, i really can't see why the devs made that change in skillgain-system.

Won't deposit a cent anymore or spend much ped ingame, maybe will continue to pay when spaceships or new planets are introduced, and all players have equal chances to get skills.

It definitely is a money sink. People can get money from sweat but its going to take a really long time to catch up and be competitive with the older players. I'm talking a really long time. Even if you do catch up you will need to pump a hefty amount of money once your skill start going up to use stronger weapons.

And it doesn't matter if you are sniper level 10 or 30  you will not be getting any better loot. Other professions such as crafting and beauty are really expensive to start and coloring is really  really expensive. Plus older players have established themselves in the community and have leveled up back when it was easier and cheaper.

It will take you years of hardcore hunting and skilling to reach the best players in EU. They played all from back in beta. Since they could simply go into a pvp ring. Place a guy in the middle with a Modified Medkit. They simply bought the lowest and fastest gun they could. And blasted away on the man in the middle. usually 8 people blasting at him in the middle. This was possible to do for 1-2 years after it went gold.

The thing was. They gained the same amount of skill as you do with a powerfull gun today. Since the skillgain were the same no matter which weapon you used. its easy to reach high level skills with this method. Especially since you can just go AFK and let it autoclick for hours each day. And since it only cost them around 1 ped / 100 shot. It was a cheap way to get skills.

Same was with getting fap / evade skills. You simply autoclick fap outside at a weak monster for long with a modified medkit (which in the early days was reachable to buy). And you would gain the skills fast.

including to this. All attribute skills went ALOT faster up. We talk about 5x - 10x times faster than it is today.

A armor that cost 120.000 ped today costed around 2000 ped in the days just after beta. After a 2 years or such time. It was 20.000 ped. Suddenly 1-2 years ago. It boomed and it went on 70.000 ped or the like. Today  its as high as what i said  before. 120.000 ped. This is 12.000$ 

A modified fap. Which you could grab for 10.000 ped just after beta easily. Today cost 250.000 - 300.000 ped. This is 25.000-30.000 $. The most expensive item you can buy in the game would problaly be The Mccomick & Dub terminator. and we speak 500.000 - 800.000 ped and thats 50.000 - 80.000 $. This is scary numbers because its ridecolous. I quit this game halflfy and login a few times a month to chat with old friends. I played the game for a little over 4 years. and i had 100.000 ped when i quit. Alot of it was earned even since prices raised all the time.

Let me put it this way. Entropia Universe. back when it was Project Entropia around 3-4 years back. Very affordable. Very funny. Best community i ever seen. i could spend days in that game back then. Today its just a ghost of what i was. It looks prettier and is bigger. But it lost its magic. and it lost its mind. Prices are retarded. and the community is filled with scammers and money hungry souls.

I dont see how Entropia Universe will ever be a succes in the future. The days of EU being a succes is over.

Its worth a try since its free. But these words come from someone who loved Entropia. And someone that always supported it in forums and the like. After 4 years of gaming it. Im experienced and familiar enough with the game to review it.

Surely it saddens me my days in Entropia is over. But on the other hand. everything has a end. and im truly not writing all this slander because i simply got tired of the game after such a long time. because when Entropia was great it would never get old.

Hope it helps some people getting a idea about the game.

Regards NoBion

well there's a considerable number of things that should be improved, I agree, I won't resort to slander myself though.

NoBion,

Did you try to bececome a land owner or property owner?

Originally posted by gagaliya

NoBion,

Did you try to bececome a land owner or property owner?

 I never tried to become any of that im sorry. I dident have that kind of spare money to invest with. Anyhow i think having land can be a good buisness. On the other hand those who invested in the land put in alot of money and also alot of risk therefore involved. Since there is nothing to complain about if the game shutdowns or something similiar. Well even if mindark just removed the part of the map your land was in. You can't according to the rules (EULA i think the name is). Complain since mindark holds all rights to change anything in there. + the fact they hold the rights for the items in there. You only have the right to use them.

I dont say they are trying to scam anyone here. Which i dont belive. But there is always a risk something goes totally wrong and things shuts down.

No i just had good gears and stuff. I did choose to sell out as i dident hardcore hunt because of healthy reasons i can't be at the computer for very long sessions. and since alot of implementations made my great gear alot worser in the aspects i had most fun in. So i choosed to sell out. Also i dident like the way EU went in many ways. A different community where most old friends was gone as well.

If EU was like it was back when it was good. I wouldent sold out. Also the prices would been way cheaper and it wouldent be alot of money anyway i would get out. But when you can cash in 10.000$ where maybe the half was deposited. I wanted to spend the money on something nice In real life instead since as i said. Dident have much activities or friends left in the game anymore and dident play very much anyway.

Sure i had profits. But thats the same for all Veterans in EU. Its only because of demand and supply getting prices high up. You can't join now and buy demanded items and earn alot of it by keeping it for a time. Well maybe. But we are already very high now. I doubt alot of people do have the cash to spend on it anymore exept richer people. Which surely also plays EU.

Its up to people to judge for themself if EU is good or not. Surely the game is just alot different today and in many ways it might appeal more to other people than me. Surely i felt in love with the game i joined when i was new. And i had great times in EU through the years and i appreciate the funny evenings i had in there. i Dont hate EU. I just dont see any point as why people should join in now and try playing for real to reach the top. There is already tons of people in the top right now which is not reachable skill wise if you dont put in around 100,000$. And yes this is what a Top player calculated his skills to ve worth after current market. And who is willing to spend this. Or just the half of that to be around or simply near the top?. And you would never get the respect anyway as the current top players since you would just be tagged as a rich noob.

If you wanna try something different. Just wanna hang around with some lower gears thats worth 50$ well then this game might be worth looking at. But dont expect a game where you can advance with time without preparing to also tosh in some bucks on the way. 100-200$ for a medium gun. 300-400$ for a medium armor.

I play rarely on low skills and low gear. Its cheap and i get a decent gameplay out of it for almost no money. Since there is no monthly fee. I do not have to concern about it, Which is nice. im in a society with some very beatifull people. And i log in there for a mining trip and a chat now and then since they let me stay in the society for old friends sake ;). I also get a PM here and there when i log in from people asking why im never online. so there is still some people in there i known for long which is nice to talk to now and then. And the game brings me great memories when i log in and look around a bit again. I dont feel any shame over saying i had some memories in there that is almost as big as In real life ones. Its kinda scary. But it was so real. Since you auctually do have a second person in there. Its the first virtual world i been in. I really felt was like "Virtual reality". :). So as i said. I dont try to slash down EU. I dident lose anything at all by playing it. So i got no reasons or motivations to bash it. Im just trying to give an insight in what it been and what situation its today. And which possebilities a new player have in it compared to ago in time.

Hope you got something out of this reply