I added up the number of posts here. The number was over 990. That means 1 in 5 posts here are by me.

Most of those posts are fights over how people post. Others are the same complaints over and over again. Since people are constantly replying, that means most of what’s posted here is JUNK.

When Talad was posting, he screwed up. But when you make a mistake on the internet, it’s there forever. The ps devs are changing the way they represent themselves for the better. But with all the crap that’s happened, a fresh start is hard.

I keep saying I support the game, but I haven't put my money where my mouth is.

What do we think of a forum flush?

Say yes or no... and maybe why...

YES

Edit:  Tuxide has added a poll to the thread.  Please vote in it.

pstruth: You can make your own poll. Also MMORPG.com has a more appropriate place for stuff like this but a poll wouldn't hurt. One thing I've noticed while viewing other boards is that the Vanguard forum has its own "We're Angry about SOE" thread.

I wouldn't mind for improvements to this board myself, like a guild section.

If I posted it anywhere but here, people wouldn't see it.  We can show this thread to the mods once people make their opinions known.

I thought about making a poll, but I want people to reveal themselves if they vote.

Hrm, perhaps...

Yes.

With so many negative things being said, that weren't anywhere close to relevant, but instead combating between people that have hopefully now grown up and moved on....  I see no need for any of those comments to remain, as they'll just bring up bad memories and can't be good for the project.

Just so you all know, I voted I don't care. That's why I put that option in there; whether or not this does happen I can benefit either way.

First off, I know the moderators are not going to do this. They're not going to grant the right to vanish to anyone. They will do something, but I don't think this is the best thing. The way this board is now makes it hard for users to read about this game. Also, one of the threads on this board is now linked to Something Awful's review of the game. Second, completely wiping this board would be the same as painting the walls of some public bathroom stall. The only thing that this would do is just give all of the graffiti artists something new to draw on.

Originally posted by Tuxide

Just so you all know, I voted I don't care. That's why I put that option in there; whether or not this does happen I can benefit either way.

First off, I know the moderators are not going to do this. They're not going to grant the right to vanish to anyone. They will do something, but I don't think this is the best thing. The way this board is now makes it hard for users to read about this game. Also, one of the threads on this board is now linked to Something Awful's review of the game. Second, completely wiping this board would be the same as painting the walls of some public bathroom stall. The only thing that this would do is just give all of the graffiti artists something new to draw on.

Not to be rude, but we don't owe SomethingAwful anything.  Let them have a dead link in their article.

Painting over graffiti works.  People are far more likely to respect a place that's taken care of.  People are far more likely to disgrace a place that's neglected.

I respect your neutrality.

I voted no.  I don't think things should be "voided" just to get rid of the possible evidence.

Are things being deleted simply to cover up?  or are they truly being removed due to "junk".

What happens if there are valid points in the so-called flush or valid opinions?  Or is it that one person wants a forum flush to hide things they may have said so they may start over again?

No...  I say let the person who reads it all sort it out for themselves.

Originally posted by apsendplayer

I voted no.  I don't think things should be "voided" just to get rid of the possible evidence.

Are things being deleted simply to cover up?  or are they truly being removed due to "junk".

What happens if there are valid points in the so-called flush or valid opinions?  Or is it that one person wants a forum flush to hide things they may have said so they may start over again?

 

No...  I say let the person who reads it all sort it out for themselves.

Yes, to cover up the mistakes people have made.  Since the ps team is trying to improve, they don't deserve to have mistakes of the past haunting them, and what has been posted here can only get in the way of future growth.

As far as the valid points people have made, I think the pro of a forum wipe is bigger than the cost.

By mistakes haunting them, I mean mistakes made by them, mistakes made by people defending them, and mistakes made by people criticising them.  All of these have happen.

Originally posted by pstruth

Yes, to cover up the mistakes people have made.  Since the ps team is trying to improve, they don't deserve to have mistakes of the past haunting them, and what has been posted here can only get in the way of future growth.

As far as the valid points people have made, I think the pro of a forum wipe is bigger than the cost.

By mistakes haunting them, I mean mistakes made by them, mistakes made by people defending them, and mistakes made by people criticising them.  All of these have happen.

Um?  Okay?  So far the only "mistakes" I have seen are those that you tried to point out...  so...  Help me out here????  who are you trying to protect???

You bash PS and then try to protect them????  How very...  inappropriate

You might not like my answers, but I have answered those questions.

I like ps.  I'm also critical of parts of it.

I don't want to protect the devs from fair criticism.

The devs are trying to improve. They should be allowed to improve. Wiping this forum will help them do that.

If you don't think the devs and their "defenders" have made mistakes, I don't know what to tell you.

Originally posted by pstruth

You might not like my answers, but I have answered those questions.

I like ps.  I'm also critical of parts of it.

I don't want to protect the devs from fair criticism.

The devs are trying to improve. They should be allowed to improve. Wiping this forum will help them do that.

If you don't think the devs and their "defenders" have made mistakes, I don't know what to tell you.

I just think it's a tad...  oh...  I don't know...  hypocritical of you to say that 'M'.

I mean.. you seem to be the best at what you do as far as bashing people and then wanting to erase all trace of it so that it doesn't reflect poorly on you. 

Are you really asking that we shouldn't make you feel any worse than you already do???  I mean...  come on here...  what's the deal?  (sound familiar people?)

Bash and erase???

Do you think it's okay to beat the heck out of someone and then say, "oops.  sorry, let's have a do over?"

um??? 

The Devs have nothing to be ashamed of!!!!  They responded to the rants and that's that.  There are several other forums out there with the same junk as you well know.

What it boils down to is people will try the game or they wont.  it's that simple.  If they do, they will find wonderful people with wonderful devs.  There are the occasional bad mouthers and ney sayers, (as well as the woe is me people eh 'M'?) but they will make their own decisions and learn their way around just like the rest of us did.

Having a forum wipe so you can start bashing PS again won't work!

If the devs have nothing to be ashamed of, why did Talad try to erase his posts?

"oops. sorry, let's have a do over" isn't how I'd say it, since I think everyone has made mistakes.  Maybe what I want to achieve can't be put into words, but I assure you my motivations are true.

Maybe you shouldn't think about my motivations at all.  Instead, think about what you'd actually be getting from what would actually be happening.

You're in attack mode right now.  I can understand why, even though I don't agree with it.  But we should all be looking at the bigger picture right now.