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Paragon Studios
MMORPG | Genre:Super-Hero | Status:Cancelled  (est.rel 04/27/04)  | Pub:NCSoft
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City of Heroes Forum » Paragon City Hall (General) » dammit, city of heroes deserves better than this!

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  Arakane

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/25/03
Posts: 163

" in search of The Lost Chord"

 
OP  11/29/12 8:14:38 PM#1

 

 

 I swear, ncsoft,never again will i buy your products

  Phlacc

Novice Member

Joined: 5/25/04
Posts: 38

11/29/12 8:19:19 PM#2
Are you talking abouth NCsoft shutting down CoH? Or is something I don't know about?
  Arakane

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/25/03
Posts: 163

" in search of The Lost Chord"

 
OP  11/29/12 8:55:28 PM#3
of course, I am referring to the shutting down. so bloody damn wrong !
  Phlacc

Novice Member

Joined: 5/25/04
Posts: 38

11/29/12 9:02:24 PM#4
Yeah, it was good game. I never read up on it though, why they shut it down I mean. Is it because of sub numbers? Or did they just want to retire it?
  KhinRunite

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/05/10
Posts: 884

11/29/12 9:24:54 PM#5

For all its supposed greatness it's not deemed profitable by NCSoft. Based on their Q3 report, COH is nowhere in their list of top moneymakers, but belongs to the "Others" category, which make up a mere 6% of their total income.

 

Lineage 1 - 23%

Lineage 2 - 8%

AION - 16%

Blae & Soul - 20%

GW2 - 27%

Others - 6%

Don't be mad at a company who simply didn't wish to lose more money. Be mad at all the other people out there who won't play your endeared game.

Or maybe you could write a letter to NCSoft and invest in their CoX title, just to keep it afloat.

  Arakane

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/25/03
Posts: 163

" in search of The Lost Chord"

 
OP  11/29/12 9:29:34 PM#6

 

 maybe it wasnt in the top money-maker group, but a lot of people loved it and were still playing,and had been for a long time. they didnt mind taking our money in the good times, they owed us ,on a moral basis,better than this.

 

 

 the best super-hero game ever, the best character creation ever, the most engrossing story-line,the greatest community, the most fun game,innovative in the 1st degree. Damn, I will miss you.

  DoomsDay01

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/14/08
Posts: 774

11/29/12 9:37:47 PM#7

Seriously, how long has EQ1 been around? That can't be a big profit item for them yet they are still going strong and have tons of expansion packs. See this is where I see the problem with free to play. Sure you might do good for a few years, but when people quit buying stuff, there is no income coming in. What they should have done was stay sub based but maybe lower the sub cost some.

I am sorry to see COH go. While I havent played in a while, it was a pretty fun game. There was one thing that always bugged me about both COH and COV and that was 40+ the game was so fun 1-39. As soon as you get 40+ though the villians scaled way higher in power then they should have, compared to the rest of the game. I sure did love flying around the cities though. Lots of fun there!

  Arakane

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/25/03
Posts: 163

" in search of The Lost Chord"

 
OP  11/29/12 9:43:55 PM#8

 

 once incarnate powers came around, that imbalance was fixed,and yeah,flying was always fun :)

 

 

edit- I guess I take it especially hard,as this was the last game my wife and I played together. I am a widower now,and this hits really close to home as I am sure you can understand..

  Freezzo

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/28/12
Posts: 228

11/29/12 9:46:45 PM#9
Originally posted by DoomsDay01

Seriously, how long has EQ1 been around? That can't be a big profit item for them yet they are still going strong and have tons of expansion packs. See this is where I see the problem with free to play. Sure you might do good for a few years, but when people quit buying stuff, there is no income coming in. What they should have done was stay sub based but maybe lower the sub cost some.

I am sorry to see COH go. While I havent played in a while, it was a pretty fun game. There was one thing that always bugged me about both COH and COV and that was 40+ the game was so fun 1-39. As soon as you get 40+ though the villians scaled way higher in power then they should have, compared to the rest of the game. I sure did love flying around the cities though. Lots of fun there!

EQ = Sony Online Entertainment 

CoH was still making a profit, but according to NCSoft not enough to warrant keeping online. It only really had a following in the USA, that's the place where the superhero scene is that big. In Europe there's some hype around superhero movies, but that's it...

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
And for MMORPGs ever so true...

  Lustmord

Elite Member

Joined: 12/21/05
Posts: 954

11/29/12 9:46:49 PM#10
They needed the server hardware for GuildWars 2. lol
  Arakane

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/25/03
Posts: 163

" in search of The Lost Chord"

 
OP  11/29/12 9:56:29 PM#11
Originally posted by Lustmord
They needed the server hardware for GuildWars 2. lol

 I kind of rather doubt that :)  the reality is greed,as always.

  DoomsDay01

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/14/08
Posts: 774

11/29/12 9:57:15 PM#12
Originally posted by Freezzo
Originally posted by DoomsDay01

Seriously, how long has EQ1 been around? That can't be a big profit item for them yet they are still going strong and have tons of expansion packs. See this is where I see the problem with free to play. Sure you might do good for a few years, but when people quit buying stuff, there is no income coming in. What they should have done was stay sub based but maybe lower the sub cost some.

I am sorry to see COH go. While I havent played in a while, it was a pretty fun game. There was one thing that always bugged me about both COH and COV and that was 40+ the game was so fun 1-39. As soon as you get 40+ though the villians scaled way higher in power then they should have, compared to the rest of the game. I sure did love flying around the cities though. Lots of fun there!

EQ = Sony Online Entertainment 

CoH was still making a profit, but according to NCSoft not enough to warrant keeping online. It only really had a following in the USA, that's the place where the superhero scene is that big. In Europe there's some hype around superhero movies, but that's it...

Yep, I know who EQ belongs to. My point was that game has been around for 13 years and its still going. ncsoft should have been able to keep coh going with a profit. maybe its not the millions they want but come on, if you have a decent player base then keep it going. Is it really hurting them if its still making money?

  niceguy3978

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Joined: 6/14/06
Posts: 1963

11/29/12 10:00:22 PM#13
Originally posted by Arakane

 

 maybe it wasnt in the top money-maker group, but a lot of people loved it and were still playing,and had been for a long time. they didnt mind taking our money in the good times, they owed us ,on a moral basis,better than this.

 

 

 the best super-hero game ever, the best character creation ever, the most engrossing story-line,the greatest community, the most fun game,innovative in the 1st degree. Damn, I will miss you.

Most corporashions do not know this thing you call morality.  To them it is immoral to lose money because they only owe their shareholders, not their customers.

  Fearum

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1055

11/29/12 10:00:27 PM#14
Originally posted by Lustmord
They needed the server hardware for GuildWars 2. lol

HAHA that made me laugh and think you might be right, that would explain all the lag and people taking a few seconds to load in in WvW

  Arakane

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/25/03
Posts: 163

" in search of The Lost Chord"

 
OP  11/29/12 10:06:06 PM#15
Originally posted by niceguy3978
Originally posted by Arakane

 

 maybe it wasnt in the top money-maker group, but a lot of people loved it and were still playing,and had been for a long time. they didnt mind taking our money in the good times, they owed us ,on a moral basis,better than this.

 

 

 the best super-hero game ever, the best character creation ever, the most engrossing story-line,the greatest community, the most fun game,innovative in the 1st degree. Damn, I will miss you.

Most corporashions do not know this thing you call morality.  To them it is immoral to lose money because they only owe their shareholders, not their customers.

      yes,sadly,you are probably right my friend.

  hehenep

Novice Member

Joined: 7/03/04
Posts: 200

11/30/12 1:15:52 PM#16
Originally posted by KhinRunite

Don't be mad at a company who simply didn't wish to lose more money. Be mad at all the other people out there who won't play your endeared game.

Or maybe you could write a letter to NCSoft and invest in their CoX title, just to keep it afloat.

Except by all accounts CoH wasn't actually loosing money.  It was still profitable, just not profitable enough I expect.  The big issue (for me) is the sudden cancleation with no cost-cutting measures to make the game more profitable first.  Heck, the dev team didn't even know it was an issue until they came in to work and found out one day ... in the middle of working on their next big issue(patch).

  Kaneth

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Joined: 8/19/07
Posts: 1456

11/30/12 1:26:44 PM#17
Originally posted by Arakane

 

 maybe it wasnt in the top money-maker group, but a lot of people loved it and were still playing,and had been for a long time. they didnt mind taking our money in the good times, they owed us ,on a moral basis,better than this.

 

 

 the best super-hero game ever, the best character creation ever, the most engrossing story-line,the greatest community, the most fun game,innovative in the 1st degree. Damn, I will miss you.

They owed you nothing. You gave them money, they provided a service. The service wasn't redeemable in the eyes of those who are in control of such things, and they canceled the project. Morality has nothing to do with it. It sucks to lose a game you love, but nothing lasts forever.

  rojo6934

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Joined: 8/13/09
Posts: 4543

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

11/30/12 1:28:15 PM#18
Originally posted by Arakane

 

 the best super-hero game ever, the best character creation ever, the most engrossing story-line,the greatest community, the most fun game,innovative in the 1st degree. 

i played it as free to play a few times and i found it OK, bad old graphics with some slow skill activation that felt a bit clunky but still a good game, i liked it for what it was. However, i never heard anyone saying these things while the game was alive, ever. I noticed the same with SWG, while the game was alive nobody said it was the best until it was shut down with low population

"in peace, in sleep under the barren, abandoned soil"

  waynejr2

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Joined: 4/12/11
Posts: 3662

RIP City of Heroes!

11/30/12 1:29:13 PM#19
Originally posted by Phlacc
Yeah, it was good game. I never read up on it though, why they shut it down I mean. Is it because of sub numbers? Or did they just want to retire it?

 Although it was making money, it wasn't making enough money for the resources spent.    Better spending the money elsewhere for higher return.

  hehenep

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Joined: 7/03/04
Posts: 200

11/30/12 2:21:58 PM#20
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Arakane

 

 the best super-hero game ever, the best character creation ever, the most engrossing story-line,the greatest community, the most fun game,innovative in the 1st degree. 

i played it as free to play a few times and i found it OK, bad old graphics with some slow skill activation that felt a bit clunky but still a good game, i liked it for what it was. However, i never heard anyone saying these things while the game was alive, ever. I noticed the same with SWG, while the game was alive nobody said it was the best until it was shut down with low population

It really depends on where you spent your online time.  Over at Massively people would talk up CoH fairly regularly when there were news articles about it or any of the other comic book games.

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