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City of Heroes Forum » Paragon City Hall (General) » "Keep NcSoft from shutting down City of Heroes" petition passes 10,000 names

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  Krytycal

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Joined: 4/17/06
Posts: 527

9/03/12 4:41:14 PM#21
Originally posted by Wolfenpride
Originally posted by Krytycal
CoH actually makes more money than GW1, so the reason they're shutting it down it's not so much the game, but the fact that Paragon studio is not the one coming up with a super duper sequel.

It would be nice if we could get an official word out of NC/Paragon, but I did read the same thing somewhere. There's also this theory:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=295841

Whatever the reason, it most certainly has nothing to do with the game being to expensive to sustain.

 

That theory doesn't make much sense. If that were the case NCSoft could've tactfully shifted the blame, and saved themselves a lot of grief in the process.

  superniceguy

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Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2278

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

9/03/12 5:05:47 PM#22
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA
These things never accomplish anything.

I disagree. NOT doiung these things never accomplish anything

 

EQmac closure announcement:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=182821

 

People start emailing SOE, Smedley and doing petitions, and SMedley comes to the forums and explains the closure perosnally:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=182907

 

Then 2 weeks later, after more emails and petitions, Smed sees that it is best for EQmac to stay up.

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=183280

 

 

So, to say "These things never accomplish anything." is just wrong

  superniceguy

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Posts: 2278

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

9/03/12 5:11:10 PM#23
Originally posted by tawess
Originally posted by Wolfenpride
Originally posted by Krytycal
CoH actually makes more money than GW1, so the reason they're shutting it down it's not so much the game, but the fact that Paragon studio is not the one coming up with a super duper sequel.

It would be nice if we could get an official word out of NC/Paragon, but I did read the same thing somewhere. There's also this theory:

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=295841

Whatever the reason, it most certainly has nothing to do with the game being to expensive to sustain.

 

 

this thread explain it http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=296081

 

Simply apart from GW1 (a PR nightmare to close down at this time die to GW2) CoH was making the least money and out of GW1 and CoH, CoH cost the most to run as it still have a development team unlike GW1.

That may be the case now, but GW2 has only just launched, and chances are that most people will end up switching from GW1 to GW2, and GW1 will become dead / less than CoH

If that is the case then they are acting prematurely, and maybe if they see GW1 figures bombing before Nov, this might be what may change their mind in shutting it down.

It is stupid having 2 GW games and no City of Heroes. It does not make much variety in their line up. I have not played GW1, and with GW2 released, I have no intention in starting with GW1 now.

I bet if GW1 was announced to close, I bet it would not get 10,000 names, as people would just accept it and go play GW2 which is actually better than GW1. City of heroes is unique, and there is nothing else like it that is better.

  tixylix

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 1144

9/03/12 5:24:17 PM#24
Instead of signing the petition those people coulda been playing to keep it alive.
  Robokapp

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Posts: 4817

The only luck I had today was to have you as my opponent.

9/03/12 5:29:29 PM#25
vote with your wallets, people. your petition says yes-yes, your wallet says no-no.

  superniceguy

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Joined: 2/17/07
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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

9/03/12 5:42:34 PM#26
Originally posted by Robokapp
vote with your wallets, people. your petition says yes-yes, your wallet says no-no.

The stupid thing now is you can not buy anything with real money. You can not even buy more points.

The only thing you probably can buy are Time Cards from retailers like Amazon if your subscription is not active.

  rdrakken

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Joined: 6/15/12
Posts: 435

9/03/12 5:43:43 PM#27
No freemium game deserves to survive long.
  L0C0Man

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Joined: 1/30/09
Posts: 960

9/03/12 5:48:44 PM#28
Get those 10,000 people that might or might not even play the game subscribe by becoming VIP and there would be a better chance of it not closing instead of just signing a form.

What can men do against such reckless hate?

  superniceguy

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Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2278

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

9/03/12 5:49:12 PM#29
Originally posted by tixylix
Instead of signing the petition those people coulda been playing to keep it alive.

I haven't played it much this year, other things have cropped up, but I have been subbed to it the entire year, since it went F2P, gathering 400 points each month.

They should just stop creating more MMOs, that is what keeps people away. People keep trying the latest things, and each new game just keeps getting more and more short lived, and then you go back to your favourite MMO but then it is shut down, and the new game is crap, and then you have nothing to play!

  superniceguy

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Joined: 2/17/07
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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

9/03/12 5:49:59 PM#30
Originally posted by L0C0Man
Get those 10,000 people that might or might not even play the game subscribe by becoming VIP and there would be a better chance of it not closing instead of just signing a form.

You can not subscribe, they have taken away the option

  User Deleted
9/03/12 5:53:41 PM#31
Originally posted by Quirhid
You can't stop stupid people from putting their name under a stupid cause.

That has got to be one of the most uneducated sentences I have ever read.

 

A few of my friends play CoH and they are very discouraged that the game is being shutdown.  Is it so wrong of them to try and save the MMO that they enjoy playing?  Simply because you don't like it does not mean its stupid or that the effort to save it is stupid, and it really doesn't mean that the people playing it are stupid... No. The quote above defines ignorance.

  AlBQuirky

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Tomorrow's just a future yesterday...

9/03/12 7:26:14 PM#32


Originally posted by LachyFTW
This is pointless, the decision is already made and a petition won't change a thing.

Exactly. This is a business, not some governmental agency. While I am sad to see CoH closing it's doors, clicking a little button on some webform will not change a thing. Buying subs and in-game items would make them think twice about it. Even then, it will forever be held over the threshold of the door, one step from getting the boot.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
- FARGIN_WAR

  Karteli

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Posts: 2704

9/03/12 7:32:19 PM#33

10,000 people play CoH, and 10,000 people signed the petition.  Similarly when SWTOR gets shut down, 10k people will still be playing, and 10k will sign a petition.  Plus, being F2P, it likely does not generate much money with those numbers anyways.

 

It's still not enough to justify keeping the doors open.

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  tiefighter25

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9/03/12 7:39:51 PM#34
I mailed 10,000 apples to Summer Glau. Everything should be fine now.
  Theocritus

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9/03/12 7:40:13 PM#35
Originally posted by smokedogg311
Unless your sending them a nice chunk of money in with that petition then you can kill CoH goodbye.

     Yeah the majority of those 10k probably never even played the game...When I played it early this year it was a ghost town, and that was after f2p was implemented....Im sure it holds some nostalgia for alot of people who played years ago, but in 2012 it doesn't measure up anymore.

  Quirhid

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Correcting wrongs on the Internet...

9/03/12 7:48:38 PM#36
Originally posted by BrooksTech
Originally posted by Quirhid
You can't stop stupid people from putting their name under a stupid cause.

That has got to be one of the most uneducated sentences I have ever read.

 

A few of my friends play CoH and they are very discouraged that the game is being shutdown.  Is it so wrong of them to try and save the MMO that they enjoy playing?  Simply because you don't like it does not mean its stupid or that the effort to save it is stupid, and it really doesn't mean that the people playing it are stupid... No. The quote above defines ignorance.

No, I'm sure it is you who is showing your ignorance here. NCsoft will not continue supporting a game simply because a handful of people want them to, but because it is not profitable anymore. If there is no future, no money in it, why support it? Perhaps NCsoft will put those employees to better use in some other project. Who knows? Do you?

Those who signed are like some Greenpiece activists. Sure, they make noise but will they accomplish anything? -Unlikely. That petition is stupid.

I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

9/03/12 8:06:14 PM#37
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by BrooksTech
Originally posted by Quirhid
You can't stop stupid people from putting their name under a stupid cause.

That has got to be one of the most uneducated sentences I have ever read.

 

A few of my friends play CoH and they are very discouraged that the game is being shutdown.  Is it so wrong of them to try and save the MMO that they enjoy playing?  Simply because you don't like it does not mean its stupid or that the effort to save it is stupid, and it really doesn't mean that the people playing it are stupid... No. The quote above defines ignorance.

No, I'm sure it is you who is showing your ignorance here. NCsoft will not continue supporting a game simply because a handful of people want them to, but because it is not profitable anymore. If there is no future, no money in it, why support it? Perhaps NCsoft will put those employees to better use in some other project. Who knows? Do you?

Those who signed are like some Greenpiece activists. Sure, they make noise but will they accomplish anything? -Unlikely. That petition is stupid.

How do you know it is not profitable? Got a link or something that proves it 100% that it is not profitable or is that because it is the most likely reason?

I bet you would think it stupid of people still trying to save EQmac after Smedley came on and gave reasons why it had to close. They craeted more that just noise, they saved EQmac.

Without knowing the real reasons why it is closing, someone could say something, that makes the person deciding its fate, think twice, and then they reverse the decision.

If people like something, and do not put any effort into trying to save it, then those people are the stupid ones, as when it is too late to do anything about it, you will always wonder that if you did add your name, that it would have made the difference, but if you do add your name, and it does nothing, then you know you did all your could to try and save it, and never then live in regret.

  VengeSunsoar

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9/03/12 10:34:35 PM#38

I'm just wondering what happened?

I assumed they shut it down because it wasn't making money, but what happened?  I played on/off since launch, it appeared to have a very stable population of ~150k for years.  Did f2p really kill it that much?

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  AlBQuirky

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Tomorrow's just a future yesterday...

9/03/12 10:42:44 PM#39


Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
I'm just wondering what happened?

I assumed they shut it down because it wasn't making money, but what happened?  I played on/off since launch, it appeared to have a very stable population of ~150k for years.  Did f2p really kill it that much?



It is really unclear as to why they are shutting the doors. Here is the official announcement

"In a realignment of company focus and publishing support, NCsoft has made the decision to close Paragon Studios."

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
- FARGIN_WAR

  Enerzeal

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9/03/12 11:58:22 PM#40

What the hell is wrong with some of you? People want to take a swing at saving a game they love to play. If people who don't support the game with money want to add their voice to it then so be it! So what if this doesn't bring it back, so what if it might seem a little to little, it's been proven to work before, so why not let them take a swing at saving something they love?

Why do people call this a stupid cause? 

Why do people mock them for making this petition.

I swear MMORPG.com is spiraling down into the deepest part of the shit...

 

I signed it, not because I play it, but because I would rather see a few people get their game back, how ever little hope it may contain.

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