Originally posted by jakojako

PLEASE GTFO OF THIS GAME!!! Seriously, pvpers have what, 2 good pvp mmorpgs that aren't even really populated.. This is our chance to finally get a good mmo! Come on, pve carebears have over 50 other mmo's to go to where you don't have to worry about pvp. People, don't ruin this chance for pvpers to have fun. Sorry to be mean, but gtfo carebears

Cant agree more on this.

Altho killing them over and over again and then hear them whine on the forums is a hobby I am really fond of.

Originally posted by maui1911

 

Originally posted by jakojako

PLEASE GTFO OF THIS GAME!!! Seriously, pvpers have what, 2 good pvp mmorpgs that aren't even really populated.. This is our chance to finally get a good mmo! Come on, pve carebears have over 50 other mmo's to go to where you don't have to worry about pvp. People, don't ruin this chance for pvpers to have fun. Sorry to be mean, but gtfo carebears

 

Cant agree more on this.

Altho killing them over and over again and then hear them whine on the forums is a hobby I am really fond of.

Maybe instead of killing these newbs over and over and over,you should try killing someone who an fight back?

Just a thought

Original game had bad reputation as gankers heaven. And the new version seems to be quickly attracting same griefer/ganker players.

Shame , really because JGE has potential.

Well any quality PvP game is designed around level/skill limits to prevent ganking players far weaker to effectively defend themselves. Just don't make PvP consensual or create too many safe zones which would make PvP carebearish.

JG:E is looking better and better each and everyday.

Originally posted by airstrike

 Tho I do not agree on how the OP put it,I agree with his point.How about people who do not like pvp play another games,say WoW wich is the most PVE friendly game and stop trying to change this game ?

  Curently there are only 2-3 true mmog pvp games ,Guild Wars ,EvE online and Planetside.Tho GW and PS arent great pvp ,it is pretty meaningfull,while eve has alot of pvp depht and rewards or punishes players acordingly to their actions.

  Personaly I like pve to burn some time,but it gets extremly boring to fight the same scripted AI or trade the same routes etc over and over and over,cause that's what you are asking for.The PVE only players make up a very small percentage of the actual game market,soo it's no loss for them,stop comming up with that excuse.

There aren't a whole lot of choices for scifi MMO fans out there. Which is why it is so annoying when people tell you to play other games. Fantasy != sci-fi.

I'm not going to play some elven infested crap just because people want a ganking playground on JGE. I want some great scifi gaming. When there are more choices in the sci-fi world I will leave this game alone.

Originally posted by GazMc

Hmmm, good luck to all you pve-only crowd playing this game. I'm sure that the no-risk-to-do-anything model will be a blast. Be sure to tell me all about it, because i certainly won't be there to see...

The only time PVE is no-risk is when it is left in the hands of lazy devs.  Your attitude is a great example of why some people avoid PVP like the plague.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Original game had bad reputation as gankers heaven. And the new version seems to be quickly attracting same griefer/ganker players.

Shame , really because JGE has potential.

 

a pvp player

this is all a pvp player is all they do. They cry all day about skill and challange, put them in a game and ALL they do is hunt out other players Far weaker then them kill them over and over and scream about how awesome they are. A "pvp" payer cares nothing about challange  just making others live miserable as they run in a heart beat when anyone near the same level as them draws near.

This is the only reason i don't like pvp games cause i find most AI mobs do things i dont expect far more often than any great pvp player, i know what ability they will use cause they all do the same thing at the same times in the same ways cause its 1337.

WoW bored me so fast as my holy spec priest has only ever been defeated by a warlock in 27 duels, which i started at level 40 and Never dueled anyone my level or lower and 3 times out of 4 in the battelgrounds i tried i was usually the last to go down if we lost to horde. Simply cause i knew what they were going to do which forced me to do the saem thing over and over and it gets so boring at least fighting AI enemies i had to mix thing up to deal with them.

Originally posted by Illyrian

 

Originally posted by jakojako

Originally posted by impulsebooks

 

Originally posted by jakojako

PLEASE GTFO OF THIS GAME!!! Seriously, pvpers have what, 2 good pvp mmorpgs that aren't even really populated.. This is our chance to finally get a good mmo! Come on, pve carebears have over 50 other mmo's to go to where you don't have to worry about pvp. People, don't ruin this chance for pvpers to have fun. Sorry to be mean, but gtfo carebears

Before asking for the Dev's future profitability to walk away, maybe you should ask them what they think about this?

 

I like both kinds of gameplay, by the way. I don't mind being called a carebear if that rocks your boat, but I WILL be playing this game no matter what some narrow minded pvp-only player tells me to do.

Good! I don't care if pve people play the game, what pisses me off is when people post about how they want this pvp game to be a pve game! Please, don't get me wrong, feel free to play this game as a pve'er, but PLEASE don't try to turn this shed of hope for pvpers into  a pve game.

 

I find it amusing that PvP players who cannot wait to slam "carebears" and "n00bs" for the percieved lack of "toughness" are usually the same that start shrieking for PvP havens that need to be protected by minefields and barbed wire from the evil hordes of PvErs.

Personally I've actually PLAYED the original jumpgate and it had full PVP available just like JG:E is planning to.  I am a PVE and a PVP player.  I like both.  TBQFH the original catered to both crowds just fine and I don't see any reason why the new version wouldn't as well.  People really need to quit pontificating about 'how the game should be' and just wait and see what the developers come up with before going off on their high horses about 'this game should have this, that, etc'.  The devs of this game have done a phenomenal job over the past several YEARS with Jumpgate, there's no reason to think that won't continue with Jumpgate: Evolution.

Originally posted by Elnator

 

Originally posted by Illyrian

 

Originally posted by jakojako

Originally posted by impulsebooks

 

Originally posted by jakojako

PLEASE GTFO OF THIS GAME!!! Seriously, pvpers have what, 2 good pvp mmorpgs that aren't even really populated.. This is our chance to finally get a good mmo! Come on, pve carebears have over 50 other mmo's to go to where you don't have to worry about pvp. People, don't ruin this chance for pvpers to have fun. Sorry to be mean, but gtfo carebears

Before asking for the Dev's future profitability to walk away, maybe you should ask them what they think about this?

 

I like both kinds of gameplay, by the way. I don't mind being called a carebear if that rocks your boat, but I WILL be playing this game no matter what some narrow minded pvp-only player tells me to do.

Good! I don't care if pve people play the game, what pisses me off is when people post about how they want this pvp game to be a pve game! Please, don't get me wrong, feel free to play this game as a pve'er, but PLEASE don't try to turn this shed of hope for pvpers into  a pve game.

 

I find it amusing that PvP players who cannot wait to slam "carebears" and "n00bs" for the percieved lack of "toughness" are usually the same that start shrieking for PvP havens that need to be protected by minefields and barbed wire from the evil hordes of PvErs.

 

Personally I've actually PLAYED the original jumpgate and it had full PVP available just like JG:E is planning to.  I am a PVE and a PVP player.  I like both.  TBQFH the original catered to both crowds just fine and I don't see any reason why the new version wouldn't as well.  People really need to quit pontificating about 'how the game should be' and just wait and see what the developers come up with before going off on their high horses about 'this game should have this, that, etc'.  The devs of this game have done a phenomenal job over the past several YEARS with Jumpgate, there's no reason to think that won't continue with Jumpgate: Evolution.

 

What else does your magic "8" Ball tell you? I still play JGC and I agree that the existing PVP/PVE setting in JGC has worked for the larger part but that won't be possible in JGE with the larger subscriber base that NetDevil will be hoping for. The griefer always has the advantage in choosing to engage or not to engage. If the cavalry shows up in a much more powerful ship or in greater numbers and the griefer will simply run away and log off. The griefer looks for the lone miner or the fat hauler lumbering along any one of a number of circumstances that gives them an advantage. They may or may not try to extort cash from the victim, but their only real desire is to take away something from the other player and that is their entertainment.

My point here again is that even though there may be some of you that think this is how it should be there are those of us that don't think share that view. We want to play a game for the sense of community, to work with others toward a common goal, to escape from reality even for a little while without the stresses of real life weighing down on us. We aren't adicted to adrenaline, we don't feel the need to validate ourselves as being alive in a game. We don't run around yelling "Boom Head Shot", or use terms like "l33t, PWNED or call people Noob" or Smack Talk in game. In short we just want to play online in a virtual community like visiting the local pub, play a game for a bit nurse a pint and unwind after work hence a PVE setting.

Now I don't expect a lot of the posters here to rally around that kind of sentiment. I will point out after all the years I've been playing online and coming to MMO and Online gaming sites the statistics bare out that PVE players overwhelmingly are in the majority. They also are the least vocal of the respondants in forums. I feel its important that the other side of the equation needs to be voiced along with the PVP contingent.

I don't think the hardcore PvPers can be reasoned with. Here is the deal ...

People who like PvE and limited/optional PvP, like me, voice our opinions.

The hardcore PvPers voice their opinions.

We all vote with our dollars and see who the developers listen to.

Keep in mind that JGE will be out to make money first and foremost. So if they dont cater to PVE in some way, form, or fashion, it will likely go the road of the original (small fan-base, etc). There's already a PVP-centric space MMO on the market so why wouldn't JGE use this opportunity to try and draw in some of the PVE market? If JGE can make both sides satisfied, this game stands a great chance to draw in people who are tired of sword-swinging MMO's. Personally, I prefer more PvE over PvP but the ability to PvP is fun too. It's just hard to PvP with a cig in one hand and a beer in the other  But I'm going to try this game regardless because I love space MMO's and this game just looks too cool!