If you ever thought to jump by JGE website and check the forums there , my advice is:  forget it...

In many many years of gaming i never seen more hostile horrible community. Basically the forums there are taken over by ex Jumpgate classic players. Old Jumpgate is, and never was a sucesfull game - and it was played by  a handfull of hardcore entusiasts. ( Also known to repetedly gank newcomers to game
to such a degree that even game developers begged them to stop, because they were driving away what was allready small player base. Some people even claim JGC failed because of the bad rep caused by them )

This group of people has now taken over JGE forums. Their goal is to harass any poster recommending anything new or any change or evolvment of JGE from its old classic. Any post with new idea or something different to what they knew and are used to in the classic game, are met not by arguments but straight personal insults.

So if you are new player. Interested in JGE (like i was) I advice you to spare your time and avoid the said forums.

My only hope is that this attempt to ruin any potential of this up comming game will not succeed, and that
the developers will realize they are dealing with loud and aggressive minority that will do world of hurt to the game and the fan base it is hoping to achieve...

So far they lost one...

Your post makes me want to go over there even more now :) I don't like bullies, not even virtual bullies like these nasty posters you describe. The best way to deal with the astards is to harrass them right back,don't let them take over a great game all over again.

I tried and given up.

You post topic like "JGE should have avatars" , and emidiately get response "I will kill on sight any player that has stupid avatar". Every word you post meets comments like "Stupid post of the month" , "You fail" , "Learn English" ... and not by single poster , but by group - probably in game guild or something.

Developers should listen to suggestion on their forums. But what can you do when forum is taken over by a virtual bullies ? 

Hmm - that reminds me a lot of the Vanguard crowd during Beta! Only there they acted as the "defenders of the "vision"" . That does not bode well for JGE. People like that can ruin a game very quickly.

Actually, these folks are much more hostile than the VG crowd ever was, because they defend the game as it current exists as being perfect.  They make Darkfall forum posters look gentle in comparison.

The great thing about it is I think the new game will be developed with many things changed that they will absolutely hate (unless the devs are stupid) and with luck it will drive them from the new version.

My advice is to ignore their hostile responses, and post what you like.  Or ignore them completely and play the game when it comes out like I plan to.

http://community.netdevil.com/showthread.php?t=979

by the way, if you've been on the internet for more then a year, you should've developed an asbestos skin by now.

lol, why such hate? Make love not hate:D

im a ninja

This sounds like a challenge!

Now i must visit that forum. After many years of Forumfall i hope that the Jumpgate forum will be as a gentle touch from my girlfriend in comarison.

And it would be fun to talk to fanbois. But it cant be that bad?

Actually this is not true. Many newcomers have found their way onto the forums and have been welcomed and have integrated really well.

Lobo is one of about 3 people who have come into the community and been generally difficult, obnoxious and opinionated. Jumpgate is a combat space simulator MMO, Lobo wants it to be delayed so that it can be made into a Eve/WoW [insert random MMO here] clone.

If you like the basic concept of what JGE is going to be (again, combat space simulator MMO, and thats according to the devs) then the welcome you will get will be second to none.  If you come wanting to be a complete a-hole, then expect the welcome only a tight knit 8 year old community can give.

Smeg

The dude above me said it well enough. Comunity isnt just a bunch of people trolling the forums since the old days and you cant judge a community by a few haters of the new.

I do want a space combat MMO, so we are all good there, but tell me more about this WOW clone thing. Smeg, are you one of these people that believe PVE content makes anygame a WOW clone? If you are, I have to disagree with you.

I used to play games like Eite, Privateer, Freelancer, Wing Commander etc. None of these are MMOs true, but all of them had PVE content--the entire game was played against NPC "bad guys" and I enjoyed them. If JGE has no PVE, it will remain a tiny niche game and will never compete on the big stage. I want this game to do really well. I want the devs to be rewarded for their work, and in turn reward us for playing by adding more patches etc. The more money the devs pull in with subs, the more they can do FOR us in the game. Its simple as that.

PVE MMO players are a huge portion of the total MMO gamer community. JGE must include a mixture of content. IF the fantasy game Warhammer can do it with its RVR (PVP+PVE in factional wars) so can JGE.

Smeg, do you agree that PVE added to the game does not make a WOW clone?

Originally posted by impulsebooks

I do want a space combat MMO, so we are all good there, but tell me more about this WOW clone thing. Smeg, are you one of these people that believe PVE content makes anygame a WOW clone? If you are, I have to disagree with you.

I used to play games like Eite, Privateer, Freelancer, Wing Commander etc. None of these are MMOs true, but all of them had PVE content--the entire game was played against NPC "bad guys" and I enjoyed them. If JGE has no PVE, it will remain a tiny niche game and will never compete on the big stage. I want this game to do really well. I want the devs to be rewarded for their work, and in turn reward us for playing by adding more patches etc. The more money the devs pull in with subs, the more they can do FOR us in the game. Its simple as that.

PVE MMO players are a huge portion of the total MMO gamer community. JGE must include a mixture of content. IF the fantasy game Warhammer can do it with its RVR (PVP+PVE in factional wars) so can JGE.

Smeg, do you agree that PVE added to the game does not make a WOW clone?

This is just a guess, but from the previous posts on this thread I don't think the WoW comment was a PvE / PvP thing... rather, the impression I get is that Lobotomist was wanting the game to implement avatars that can walk around on-planet etc (as per SWG Jump to Lightspeed) as well as the spaceship flying stuff.

From my own experience, the last-minute implementation of an avatar system by a small studio (PotBS anyone...?) serves only to detract from an otherwise good game. Sometimes it really is just better to stick to what you do best.

Actually it is not true at all. I went there with some good ideas.

One of them  was that "walk on station" avatars are not needed. But an idea for JG to do "comm link - avatars"

Personalised 3D faces. That pop up when you are having conversation. Completely similar to EVE , but animated. Something like they are implementing in Starcraft II.

I posted whole explanation of this, coupled with pictures showing examples from games that used 3D portraits - Freelancer , X2 ...etc

First two posts answering my tread were " If i see a player with stupid avatar , i will kill him on sight " , and oth