Well to negate your arguement, as a PvE oriented player I don't PvP ever.... even in games where that activity is available to me I still don't do so. If a player decides sometime in the future to engage in that activity then they can create a character on a PvP server and experience it, but to force it upon all players so that the PvP player can have more targets is wrong thinking.

JGE is going to have to limit the numbers on individual servers anyway so theres isn't any reason for them not to make the distinction of having PvE and PvP servers.

You will be completely able to play in PVE way , without ever having to engage in PVP.

But completely removing PVP element from server , it will not happen. If game with 0% PVP is what you actually look for , i can suggest LOTRO or EQ2 - both great games and more suiting to your gameplay style

Originally posted by Kurir

 

By not supporting a PvE server what you're in essence saying is that your motivation isn't to have meaningful PvP but that you want to ruin someone else's idea of fun but inflicting upon them your notion of fun. One size doesn't fit all, never has never will. Besides the size of the player base is going to have to be limited per server so multiple servers are going to be a reality.

If the game economy is even remotely like EVE the two groups will depend on each other to keep it running smoothly.  The PVE/Crafting crowd will farm/manufacture the materials that the PVP community consumes/destroys.

I don't advocate making PVE folks prey, and what few people realize is the despite its reputation, EVE has a huge amount of PVE safe areas.  No, you still can be killed, (especially if your corporation is Wardec'd) but many folks stay in NPC corps and have never been killed by another player for years.

Come to think of it, I've been in empire since late November and despite being wardec'd every other week by the Privateers I've yet to lose a ship. (was close one time though)

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Originally posted by Anofalye
Thanks for the explanation.
 
I am bored at the space-theme anyway.
 
I won't be playing a game designed that way, PvE is NOT a second-class citizenship.  So I will focus my PvE-server argument in a game I care more about...WAR!  :P
 
Happy gaming. :)

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lol good luck with talking about PvE in an RVR ( PvP ) game :p

I can't resist, go play WoW if you want PvE :p

Like others mentioned, there are loads of PvE games out there, WoW, EQII, LOTRO.

If you want PURE pve, go play those games, please leave the few PvP games ( that even have PvE ) alone.

A healthy mix of PvE and PvP is what I want and what JGE is going to be, dont divide the population.

I also prefer to have 1 server for all.

Greetz

Since we're talking about a space based Sci-Fi game lets come up with examples of PvE examples in that setting. Telling people to go play a Fantasy game is a rediculous alternative to a space based Sci-Fi game. The last PvE oriented space based Sci-Fi game that I can recall was EnB.

Also, because of the manner in which control inputs are going to be made a single server is not going to be possible, this isn't a point and click game like Eve. Since there are going to be multiple servers with the population being separated because one server isn't going to be able to handle the load, there is no reason PvE and PvP servers can't be created.

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Originally posted by Kurir
Since we're talking about a space based Sci-Fi game lets come up with examples of PvE examples in that setting. Telling people to go play a Fantasy game is a rediculous alternative to a space based Sci-Fi game. The last PvE oriented space based Sci-Fi game that I can recall was EnB.
Also, because of the manner in which control inputs are going to be made a single server is not going to be possible, this isn't a point and click game like Eve. Since there are going to be multiple servers with the population being separated because one server isn't going to be able to handle the load, there is no reason PvE and PvP servers can't be created.

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I just hope there won't

I hope the devs put their time into the core game, and not into other rulesets.

Eventually different rulesets die out if not done properly, and if done properly they take too much time away from the important stuff.

Go play Tabula Rasa then.

Why do all the carebears want to mess up PvP games? They KNOW it are PvP games, the DEVS TELL us it is a PvP game, but still you whine for PvE.

Games like WAR and JGE are a mix of PVE and PVP, and to be working well, both need to be done on the same server. Especially in the case of JGE, where the economy relies on Crafters and PVE.

Greetz

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Originally posted by Kurir
Since we're talking about a space based Sci-Fi game lets come up with examples of PvE examples in that setting. Telling people to go play a Fantasy game is a rediculous alternative to a space based Sci-Fi game. The last PvE oriented space based Sci-Fi game that I can recall was EnB.
Also, because of the manner in which control inputs are going to be made a single server is not going to be possible, this isn't a point and click game like Eve. Since there are going to be multiple servers with the population being separated because one server isn't going to be able to handle the load, there is no reason PvE and PvP servers can't be created.

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You don't know if it NEEDS to be sharded. It IS possible to make a load balancing system where you can use multiple servers for 1 region when the need is there.

EVE Online is in the process of doing just that, but it is easier to do if you start from scratch.

There are not enough good pvp type games out there, there are TONS on pve type games.  Making seperate severs are a bad idea because you will loose what the game is about.  The first jumpgate was based around pvp, this one should be the same.  I have played too many games with all types of pvp... hardcore to softcore.  I am looking foward to getting this game for the pvp. if you dont like to pvp there are plenty of other games out there. Please dont ruin this one that is going to be based around pvp over pve like almost all the other games out on the market are.

Originally posted by Anofalye

I know I never even bother to try Jumpgate or EvE.

 

I have no interest in PvP, whatsoever.  Will there be any PvE server?  Will my gaming be as weak as if I play on Gaheris or would it be interesting?

 

PvP has this unavoidable flaw that you always have at least half the players failing...in a game where everything is about progression, to me this is just unacceptable.  I don't mind if peoples are PvPing and happy, but, I will always need a surrounding safe from players.

For once they make a PVP game. Not a PVE game. If you want constant char progression and no fight for it.. Go play WOW ! or some of the other carebear games.. Even the WOW PVP is carebear ..

I doubt that a PVE Space game server would survive for long.

The thing with PVP is.. it can be balanced.. No one says it has to be hardcore pirating PVP like EVE.

There is alot of exambles on how open pvp can run. take Lineage2 . Yes you were allmost completely safe in towns.

But if you PKed someone you would become RED with the Chance of looseing your items.  The losses of beeing red in a newbie zone was usualy not proffitable at all. In the beginning there was alot of PKers in the lowbie zones.. But it was usualy lowbiez. Because.. once you die you would loose XP. XP a thing that would take houres to get back etc. (Then they changed it and made it more ore less carebear but still some of the same rules none the less)

Originally posted by dalevi1

 

 

Note, I hate PvP only games, I think they are abismal. There is not a single FFA-PvP game out there worth a pence. But I do anknowledge that PvP is an important part of overall MMO play. When you look around at the most successful games in this genre (in NA), you find a balanced system that includes both styles.

I agree. Without PVE there is no story to the MMO. With no story, there is no point to anything you do in the game in my opinion. I like PVE and PVP, but the story/background is most important. I like to submerge myself into my games, not as a true RP gamer would, but I still want the game to have a point with a history behind it. Without PVE the game would turn into one big battleground where nothing matters except adding kills to your score.

PS: Stop telling people to go play PVE on MMOs based in a fantasy setting! I shouldn't need to tell you all that JGE needs as many subs as it can get. There is room for both kinds of players in the JGE universe. Oh, and the people saying there are plenty of PVE games out there... I am not aware of any MMOs where I can fly a ship in space apart from Eve (which has some PVE but not much I want to do)

Basically it is unknown as of yet.

Server shards have been said to be at 2500 if they shard at all.

They did say at one point if they sharded it would be for region (lag) but it is not 100%

Originally posted by CyberWiz

Why do all the carebears want to mess up PvP games? They KNOW it are PvP games, the DEVS TELL us it is a PvP game, but still you whine for PvE.

 

Both PvE and PvP are important factors in a modern MMO. Both will be catered for to some extent, what extent exactly, remains to be seen.

Needless to say, when asked about either the developers will sell you on the high points of each and do their best to present their product as all things to everyone.