Dear Developers:

I am constantly amazed that MMO games get developed with a strong emphasis on PVP. Frankly, i HATE PVP. Not that I am aginst one on one, which is somewhat honorable,but usually PVP turns out to be a gank fest of 6 on one or it starts after a player is engaged in RVR,which is also unfair..

The most successful MMORPG game in history is WOW. Why not adopt their strategy? Have some servers with very limited PVP unless consensual and some with wide open PVP except for starting areas. This would appeal to everyone.

Also, as with WOW, instead of forcing folks into PVP, you can have a few ( and I mean a very few) zones that are PVP oriented and give some good rewards. Thus, you would be using the carrot vs. the stick approach. You can even have special PVP events found in "arena" types of zones.

If you are going to put PVP in all servers, then at least make it painless with cheap insurance or little penalty for ship destruction,

If you want to maximize your player potential and therefore profitability, you will adopt my suggestions.

Dear Developers:

Please design the game around an open world player run economy in which anything is possible. That includes base-raping pvp gank-fests. It is of the up most importance that a sense of realism is gained if this space genre MMO is to thrive.

Dear taxguy:

This is a space we're talking about - A dark scary place of almost unlimited potential. It may seem daunting and it may frighten you, but softening the edges will only hurt a game of this genre. Comparing JGE to WoW is like trying to compare EvE to WoW and any sensible person would never do that...

You might want to have a read of this:

http://www.jumpgateevolution.co.uk/news.php?readmore=4

Dear. Mr WoWguy.. Wowsux. I hate it. I hate wowfanbois.. and if u want wow in every game.. go play wow.

/rant off

Pls dont:=)

Originally posted by Renko

You might want to have a read of this:

http://www.jumpgateevolution.co.uk/news.php?readmore=4

Very interesting. Although I still feel that comparing to WoW's PvP mechanics is detrimental to the space genre and fundamentally flawed.

It's EVE they should be using as a benchmark. Those subscription numbers they're talking about are most likely going to move across to WAR or AoC anyway... Not come here to JGE. They're aiming at the wrong crowd of people.

Sitting on the fence will only hurt the game. It's PvP or server specific, nothing else will work.

EVE as a benchmark? no thanks. EVE with its 150k subscribers shouldnt be a benchmark for anything.

EVE is boring me the hell out, and anything besides its economy isnt great.

and hell i dont even like how the economy turns out cause you either need to not have a life or buy your in-game money to get anywhere serious with that game.

sure it looks pretty but lets not go off-topic.

In a fast paced space MMO, you need to make your own PVP rules.

Get in open beta see how they work and adjust. its the best way.

Eve is boring as hell. But if you were to combine EVE's open world policy with JGE's game play, not only would it pull a massive chunk of EVE's subscription base, but it would also draw in all those people boycotting EVE because it sucks.

I completely agree though, a fast paced space MMO needs to be run by the player.

Please make the game FFA PVP, 100% Looting, No Instances, and allow players to live and play within their ships and/or houses. And let there be planetary play AS WELL AS spaceship play.

- Phos

Taxguy,

Why isn't there a "PvE-server" in every game*?  It is jumpgate devs which estimate that the PvE market is at least half the players base (prolly a lot more).

At least, they are semi honest and you know from the start(semi cause they still try to argue that PvE can be fun in such a setting, LOL).  That's been said, there are plenty of games, which don't you go check another?

*Actually, there should be many PvE variation servers in every game IMO, but that would be another topic.

Originally posted by Anofalye

Taxguy,

 

Why isn't there a "PvE-server" in every game*?  It is jumpgate devs which estimate that the PvE market is at least half the players base (prolly a lot more).

 

At least, they are semi honest and you know from the start(semi cause they still try to argue that PvE can be fun in such a setting, LOL).  That's been said, there are plenty of games, which don't you go check another?

 

*Actually, there should be many PvE variation servers in every game IMO, but that would be another topic.

But I do agree that all new MMO games MUST have PVE content for the huge numbers of people that enjoy it. The Devs need their money to keep going, so all pvp players should be encouraging them to create PVE servers for the cash cows that PVE players represent. That way Devs get the cash injection they NEED (not just want, but NEED) to keep a great game going, while keeping the PVE players on their own servers where pvp players can't get all up set by the sight of them.

To the guy that posted about wow: I agree with you if you are talking about the pvp tag system. You will get a lot of wow haters responding to you if you mention that game. What you should have done was talked about the mechanic (pvp tag on/off) and not mentioned the game you were taking the idea from.

I think PVP tag on/off should be implemented if JGE goes for one big server type where PVE and PVP players have to mix. IF JGE has PVE and PVP servers separate though, they should not bother with tags.

Originally posted by Phos

Please make the game FFA PVP, 100% Looting, No Instances, and allow players to live and play within their ships and/or houses. And let there be planetary play AS WELL AS spaceship play.

- Phos

Aha...  then you would be the first one who quit it couse of beiing ganked. This System will never work and every game developer knows it. People dont like to beeing ganked, and they dont like to lose their stuff ....  this system it would be a "survival of the fitest", but with the exeption that the "non so fit" players would just quit untill there would be no more victims to gank. Well and then the roxxor games would become vitictims themself of ever more roxxor games, untill they quit too. This geos on unitl the population of the game is zero.

Wow is not such a successfull game without a reason (after so many years).

FFA PvP games have and DO work ... if done properly. People who go around saying "FFA PvP won't work, blah blah gank, blah blah stole all my stuff", should consider some of the following options.

A. Don't play. This one is fairly self-explanatory. You may be a little disappointed that you'll miss out on a great game, but heck, spare a thought for some of us PvP players who get missed out by a large percentage of the MMO market.

B. Give it a go. Man I was really against playing on the Darktide server back in 99 because I was scared of losing my pretty matching celdon suits. But after trying it and hanging tough, I never looked back.

C. Keep playing WoW. I give my condolences to those of you who played WoW as a first gaming experience, and who have been witness to some of the mangled efforts that have been released in the same vein ever since. The first gen games were and still are the best games (in my opinion of course). The gameplay is just so much deeper, and  most of us older gamers prefer our games to be a little harder and more ruthless.

Alot of people put foward the argument "I goto work/school all day, I don't want to come home and have to focus all of my attention/leet skillz on a game". Alot of us also sit all day at work/university/school and can't wait to get home and go head to head with another player, gank lifestones and loot your pretty bunny slippers. If the PvP in JGE is going to be too tough for you, simply don't play the game. Don't instead try and take a feature that interests alot of other gamers out of the game. Screw appealing to a larger subscription base, instead pick your niche and do it PROPERLY.

Originally posted by Phos

Please make the game FFA PVP, 100% Looting, No Instances, and allow players to live and play within their ships and/or houses. And let there be planetary play AS WELL AS spaceship play.

- Phos

Yes, please do this so you and the three other people who will play this game can have loads of fun.