Well this is what will happen when you do since SOE are uncapable of stopping hackers from ruining your gamming expierence.

Have fun running into 10 of these guys every SINGLE DAY.

www.youtube.com/watch

Why stop at planetside, lets find more old games to hold against sony. Seriously who plays planetside, didnt that game get shut down for being shitty anyway.

I always willing to give every game a try. Who knows SOE might blow are minds. The game seems fun as well as the idea. I can deal with hackers fairly well. Iam not one to get angery and make a huge fit becase some one killed me. I look at hackers with pity.  Anyway i hope to play the Agency in the near future.

 You find these losers in just about any online FPS game you play. Try our old nutshot friend Combat Arms there if you don't believe me.

More hacker "Goodness" for those that care and understand that this is what you will be getting in The Agency.  

www.youtube.com/watch

WOOT now thats what I call FUN, im sure the guys at the other end of the hackers weapons were really enjoying themselfs.  Glad to see that 15 bucks a month is put to such good use by the SOE team that controls Planetside.

Troll thread?

First of all, Planetside was neither "shitty" nor did it get shut down. It is still very much online and is probably the only halfway respectable game that SOE has ever been involved with. The reason why it wasn't more popular (and a better game on top of it) was because it has always been the red-headed step child of the SOE family of games. Even though it had a better premise and more potental than any other game SOE is the publisher for, it still never got enough money, support or development time from SOE. All they cared about was pumping out the next crappy add-on for Everquest and looking for ways to screw over SWG players.

Secondly, Planetside hackers are actually quite rare from my experience with the game. What it does have are some fairly severe balance issues that cause many players to appear to be cheating when in fact they are just abusing wildly overpowered weapons (these issues are due to SOE being incompetent and not running this game properly, not because the game itself was bad). When the game was first released the Vanu were the most overpowered race I have ever seen in any game I've ever played. Their heavy assault weapon could kill both players and vehicles better than any other weapon in the game and their main battle tank earned the nickname "Mag MOWER" because the most effective tactic was to ignore the weapon systems on the tank and instead drive it in circles running people over. As a result of this all the noob players with no talent or teamwork skills went to the Vanu side just so they could be on the winning team. Then the Vanu got nerfed into the ground to the point where they were totally worthless and all the newbs got mad that they weren't on the winning team anymore so they either quit the game or went to the second most overpowered race: The NC. The NC just use one-hit kill weapons and their tactics amount to "run directly towards the enemy and fire your weapon constantly until they are dead (which they will be because our weapons are so overpowered)!" I only just recently ended my subscription to this game because the developers made the very questionable decision of nerfing the NC (finally) and then re-buffing the Vanu right back to being as overpowered as they were at the launch of the game.

In other words what I'm saying is that Planetside would have been a great game if only the greedy suits at SOE would stop counting their money long enough to go down to the programmer's offices and tell them to lay off the damn shrooms already.

Third, If we are going to even waste our time talking about how jacked up SOE is then we only need to say one thing to sum the whole thing up in one sentence: "SWG NGE"

Lastly, I can tell you now that "The Agency" and most of the other Sci-Fi-MMORPG/FPS games currently in development are going to blow hard. The reasons why are as multitude as the games themselves, but the long and short of it is that this whole industry is going down the toilet in a hurry and I stongly believe that the whole industry needs to crash and put the current lot of suits out of their jobs and out on the street before we will see any improvement.

Just got out of a SOE management meeting in which the developement team was asked to justify The Agency:

Will this game have elves, WOW has elves?

Will this game have magic, WOW has magic?

Will this game have crafting, WOW has crafting?

The developement team answered all these questions "no", and were sent back to re-work the idea, delaying the game release until next year.

I actually think it's a very interesting idea for a game. I just hope that they steer as far away from todays cookie cutter games as possible and make it unique.

Originally posted by olddaddy

Just got out of a SOE management meeting in which the developement team was asked to justify The Agency:

Will this game have elves, WOW has elves?

Will this game have magic, WOW has magic?

Will this game have crafting, WOW has crafting?

The developement team answered all these questions "no", and were sent back to re-work the idea, delaying the game release until next year. 

I believe you.

I also think this game has a great concept, I just don't trust SoE to actually turn that concept into a playable game without screwing it up.

I would never play another FPS from SOE if its like Planetside.  I followed PS years before launch anticipating its release all the time.  Watched it change design, preordered and played.  Maxed out a couple characters hopin g they would change it all the time.  The weapons would shoot like lopsided peashooters.   So frustrating when your used to playing FPS games.   These are supposed to be futuristic weapons too.  The maps are huge and thats great but when a battle breaks out soon its restricted to a very small crowd where you team mates run in front of you to get as close to the enemy as possible hoping they hit them.  So close it might as well be a melle fest.  So you accumulate negative points because the team mates running in front of you while your fireing get hit by you.   What a waste of such a vast environment and potential for great tacticle combat.  So the answer is unless this game plays like a true fps I would not go near it.

Edit after thought.   Did planetside improve their weapons accuracy and damage performance?   I havnt played in a long time and maybe they did.  If so then My experience with the game is outdated.  Sorry.    Thanks.

Originally posted by Shreddi

Edit after thought.   Did planetside improve their weapons accuracy and damage performance?   I havnt played in a long time and maybe they did.  If so then My experience with the game is outdated.  Sorry.    Thanks.

The game did change somewhat over the years, but I'm not sure if what you are referring to in reguards to weapons was one of the things that changed.

As for the guys who charged into a fight like a melee... yeah, that was a problem, I'll admit. But more of an issue with the community of the game itself than with SOE. Its just a sad fact of the internet that when you deal with any large group of people a moderate portion of them are going to act like jackasses. Considering SOE can't even solve the problems of developing software without bugs I can't hardly expect them to solve the problems of society.

Come to think of it, which empire did you play for and how long did you continue to play after launch? The number of jackasses was much higher during the early days of the game when it was still popular and was always higher in some of the empires than others.

Just because a company publish a bad game (or several) doesnt mean their next game will suck.

Remember Blizzards Battlechess? Or when Westwood tried to make a C&C FPS? Bliazzard also made Starcraft Ghost but realized in the last second that it sucked badly....

Every gaming company, or at least most have made one or several crappy games. Some companies just make one great and the rest crap but it doesnt mean you can tell if an unrealised game will suck or not. Only the future will show that.

This thread is useless.

Originally posted by Loke666

Remember Blizzards Battlechess? Or when Westwood tried to make a C&C FPS? Bliazzard also made Starcraft Ghost but realized in the last second that it sucked badly....

I think you (along with a lot of other people on this site) have completely missed the point and the reason why people are very critical of SOE.

I'm guessing you used Blizzard as an example because of WoW. This is neither the time nor the place for the WoW discussion so all I will say is that just because something is popular does NOT make it GOOD. (Example: Ameircan Idol)

But, lets get back to the real POINT of this discussion which is why SOE is such a commonly hated and distrusted company. I will try to break this down for you as simply as I can so that there will be NO misunderstanding about this:

The issue has NOTHING to do with the quality of the games SOE makes. It has never been about the games.

The issue is with the DECISIONS SOE makes ABOUT the games (both before, during and after the release of the games in question).

The PROBLEM is that SOE does NOT respect their customers, does NOT care about their customers and makes decisions that their customers regularly dislike!

Does that help you any? Are you starting to get the real picture?

Lets talk about SWG. This is the game that SOE takes the most heat for. Was it a "bad" game? NO. It was a good game. Many people played the game for years and LOVED it. They thought it was a great game, clearly. These people are not mad at SOE because the game was "bad" at all! They are mad because SOE made massive changes to the game, made these changes without consulting the community and even made these changes knowing that the community would be AGINST the changes. Sony made these changes knowing their customers would not like it and knowing that many people would quit as a result of it. They apparently did not care. As evidence of this, I present to you Dan Rubenfeld's Infamous 'Go Eat A (censored)!' Rant:

However, we made a mistake.

Somewhere during the discussions it was strongly recommended that we streamline our characters.

People wanted something simpler, more direct, more accessible.

We told them. "If you do this, you will lose all 200k subscribers. It is that significant."

It was explained that we would gain more due to the marketing push and relaunch.

This is proof that the people who made the changes in question were completely AWARE of the fact that nearly their entire customer base would hate the changes and quit the game over it. Apparently that was not an issue for them. They simply did not care. They did not care about what their customers wanted. They did not care if the custoemrs quit. All they wanted was NEW customers and MORE money. That was their only concern. This is why former SWG players are angry. It has never been about the game, it was about SOE's treatment of its own customers.

Issues like these were not limited to SWG either. You have probably already gathered from some of my previous posts that I was a player of Planetside for some time. It was not a "bad" game either. I liked the game. I played it off and on for many years. I devoted a large amount of time and effort to playing it. Clearly I did not think of it as a "bad" game. Most of the other players did not think of it that way either. But none the less SOE still made a of decisions that we did not like. There were many issues, problems and changes that players wanted to see addressed for many years that to this day have not been dealt with. A great example of this is that many players wanted more than 10 slots for equipment profiles. Sony gave us the excuse that they weren't willing to spend the money to give us the extra server space for equipment profiles. But apparently there was plenty of money for them to release expansion packs that came with a lot of questionable content that also brought new issues and problems into the game. To many of us this made no sense and to this day still does not make any sense at all to me.

These issues were not limted to SWG and PS. Vanguard, EQ2, Matrix Online and others also all experienced a wide variety of problems and mismanagement on the part of both their developers and SOE. Were these all "bad" games? Apparently not since many people played them at one point in time. But every one of these games needed major fixes and improvements that never came, all while SOE was off making decisions they knew would offend large portions of their customer base. Why would Sony behave this way? I can only assume it is because they simply have no respect for their customers and have allowed their own greed to blind their decision making skills.

Sony's arrogant and disrespectful ways are not limited to just their MMORPG department (SOE) but are a problem across virtually every nook and cranny of their electronic empire. Yet another of Sony's deadly sins aginst the gaming industry is SecuROM, a rootkit that has been not-so-secretly packaged with many popular single player games over the last few years. You may recall a few years ago when Sony was putting rootkits onto their music CDs that would install themselves onto computers without the premission of the owner. SecuROM is the exact same thing, only after Sony got into huge legal trouble for trying it on music owners, they now believe they can get away with doing it to gamers instead. Sony knows what they are doing is wrong. They know it is less than entirely legal. They know it will piss off many people all over the world. They do not care. They are doing it anyway.

The bottom line is this:

It is not about the games.

Its about the way that Sony disrespects, lies to and steals from their own customers.

THAT is why so many of us hate them.

Originally posted by Raltar

Lastly, I can tell you now that "The Agency" and most of the other Sci-Fi-MMORPG/FPS games currently in development are going to blow hard. The reasons why are as multitude as the games themselves, but the long and short of it is that this whole industry is going down the toilet in a hurry and I stongly believe that the whole industry needs to crash and put the current lot of suits out of their jobs and out on the street before we will see any improvement.

This I agree on. I've been a gamer for years but lately, I cant find one game that can hold my attension. We need a crash like the 80's

WoW made and killed this industry with one blow.