So they made the game boring on purpose to make you buy items in the mall. Well it does make sense, doesnt it? From a business perspective. Just have to wonder about the players who proudly state that they dont buy items from the ingame mall and actually can swallow this shallow crap.

Itemmall MMO's rarely have interesting stories/quests. Its all about getting your next lvl/item. No challenge in encounter, lack of interesting combat mechanics, just spent time and killing counters. Apparently lot of players have hamsterDNA for liking these kind of running mills. Oh well, to each their own.
 

I have to agree with the item mall being completley necessary once you get to the higher levels, also some items really ruin the pvp and make the tank almost invulnerable... I was like 126 warrior and archer I think (played on the real server then a private server to see the new patches to come) any ways It really is necessary if you ever get to level 80 or so, but that will take like a year...

Sorry to say but in my experience playing this game, I haven't been forced to buy a single item from the cash shop.  Those who say otherwise are either idiots, or haven't even really played the game.

"grind" has got to be the most overused term in the sadly tired dreck that passes for MMO discourse.

"grind" is basically defined as "whatever I dont like"

Its moronic.  If someone wants/needs to hate  a game, they will say it is "a grind".  When asked what ISNT a grind, they will either talk about their own grand, pie in the sky, Star Trek holodeck fantasy MMO of the future that wont exist in our lifetime, or they will point to whatever game THEY happen to love which, not coincidentally, has 100000 people claiming IT is a mindless grind.

I love WoW, EQ2, CoH, VG and even my memories of EQ1.  Those are probably my MMO career high points.  To a lesser extent I  enjoyed DAoC, LoTRO, EVE, DDO, MO,  SWG,  and AoC.    I even got my toe in the water on WAR, a bunch of the free ones and, back in the day, UO, AO, AC, AC2, Horizons, SB, DnL, L2 etc.

With NO EXCEPTIONS... ALL OF THESE have been referred to by SOME armchair genius as "mindless grinders" at one time or another.  Its just an utterly usless critique but I suspect it will just NEVER go away.

Anything YOU dont enjoy doing YOU will define as a grind and YOU will feel that the whole world MUST agree.  But the whole world will NOT agree.  Some will and some will think you're an idiot.  In turn, what THEY feel is a "grind" YOU may love.  This isnt so hard.  Why are people so incapable of comprehending this and moving on?

VERY similar with "item malls".  Any "problem" with it exists in your OWN head.  The ONLY exception is if there are items that given huge advantage in PvP and are ONLY available from "the mall".  I cant think of one example where a game has done that though (even the asian mall based games)

Playing w/o spending real cash is possible but hard. You can actually buy gold for both $ and coins (the in game money), which means that you can use item mall without spending a cent. Of course you need to have a lot of in game money to afford some item from item mall and – by doing quests, and grinding - you will never have enough coins to do that (charming F2P mechanics), and you are condemned to grind inefficiently; to move like a snail (very fast mounts cost not less than 20 gold (20$)); to use crappy weapons with low dmg (which can be increased if you spend at least 20$) and so on. You literally suck in every possible way.
 

There is no weapon to buy in IM, but those who buy gold for real cash can easily sell it to other players and for obtained coins buy powerful weapons and gear.
 

Probably almost everybody who play/ed that game would agree with what I wrote above.
 

However!
 

I’m in the middle of game, I use imba weapons, I can actually buy anything I want in IM and from the very beginning till now I didn’t spend any $!
The in game market is very developed. There is personal trading as well as stalls and auction house. It gives you a lots of possibility to earn coins. Generally: 1$ = 1gold = 100.000 coins, and by only trading goods I can earn like 500.000 coins/5gold a day.
 

As for me trading is the funniest part of PW. I know the names of almost every item in this game, and can give you the lowest price you can buy and highest prize for which you can eventually sell an item. If you also like that kind of things then PW can really be quiet perfect home for you.
 

The presence of IM makes it even better because there is another goal in the game: to beat those who made their way easier by spending 4534087 dollars a year.

The OP is full of s..tars.

I got a lvl 73 venomancer and bought from players, with cash from quests/grind: super inventory stone, super pet inventory stone, super bank stone, about 5 hp charms, 1 mp charm, double spurred panther, spotted manta, shadow manta, upgrades for the mantas, and a lot of other minor items i dont remember.

All those items are from item mall, and i spent 0 (zero) real money on them and i play about 2-3 hour daily, in the week days, for the last 2-3 months.

This is the first micro payment game i see that doen't overpower completely the one that plays with item mall items.

EVEN IF you spend like 1000$ per month in this game, you still need to play at an extensive amount to really be good. Good, not overpowered.

Originally posted by SiegeLord

The OP is full of s..tars.

I got a lvl 73 venomancer and bought from players, with cash from quests/grind: super inventory stone, super pet inventory stone, super bank stone, about 5 hp charms, 1 mp charm, double spurred panther, spotted manta, shadow manta, upgrades for the mantas, and a lot of other minor items i dont remember.

All those items are from item mall, and i spent 0 (zero) real money on them and i play about 2-3 hour daily, in the week days, for the last 2-3 months.

This is the first micro payment game i see that doen't overpower completely the one that plays with item mall items.

EVEN IF you spend like 1000$ per month in this game, you still need to play at an extensive amount to really be good. Good, not overpowered.

Yeah they OP was lying. He either never played at all or played the beta years ago for a little bit; which is why he never responded to me.

A word of advice to any other trolls like the one that started this thread: If you're going to troll a game make sure its NOT a game I'm playing ;)

Originally posted by Bonemane

And I'm 100% positive you've never played this game.

hahahahahahaha.

IM is cool but not needed. Ive never used it. My roomate did for ext. stones cause hes doing every trade skill. Thats his choice. Let me tell you. even if you could by the materials to make your weapons or armor bettter. celestones. The only problem is. all they do is make it so there are more extension slots to add another stone that you in turn have to make your self trade skilling usually. that brings the stats up but not all crazy like. I am VERY happy with the games trade skilling. its literally half the game. Ill tell you trolls one thing. If your played the game quested and grinded you would not know of all the other things you could be doing Like the dragon quest or trade skilling. Grinding = Everquest. Killing millions of creatures with no direction except leveling not even questing which in everquest is worthless unless your getting a good item at the end of your grindcore grindfest Grindquest that involved so much work you wish you cut your own ears off instead of doing it. untill you played a game were level 1 - level 85 you literally fight only creatures and never quest THE WHOLE GAME. you have no right tagging a game grind that isent like that. Cause those games exist. Lineage 2 = THE korean grindfest. Too many F2P's have come out and ruined this genres name. Were i think PWI is the best game to come out since everquest beta 1998.

PW deffinetly is the best f2p MMO out there atm.

i play PWI, level 90 barb. i have not spent a single penny on the game. everything i have, i got from ingame cash. my +5 gears, my gold TT90 accesories. everything i have gotten, i got from ingame coins, working for it.

PW also has the best Cash Shop markets ive ever seen, the cash shop currency- to ingame coin currency is incredibly nice.
 

anyone who says you need to pay to get anywhere in this game is just incredibly lazy and wants everything handed to them

i play the most expsensive class in the game, am at end game, and havent spent a single penny on this game.