The last poster is obviously a graphics whore. Sure, 2moons has one of the better item mod systems in most Korean-ported grindfests I've seen. But that's about it.

Can you ignore the 24/7 gold farmers/botters? What does that tell you about how much the company cares about LEGITIMATE players? I'm a working adult, I don't want to waste my time on another shiny, yet shallow game. And this fits 2moons exactly.

It's not even modified as David Perry wanted it to be - right now 2moons is based DIRECTLY off an old client of Dekaron, a Korean mmorpg.

1. Gold farmers -- do I have to tell you how this affects a game's economy? In the long term, no honest player will be able to afford top tier equipment, without resorting to putting in insane hours. Oh yeah, and there's a buy-back cap of $15k from NPCs. So imagine how MUCH grinding you'd need to do to earn $1 mil.

2. Botters -- same as point 1. Honest players are screwed because they'd never be able to put in as much time as these scum-sucking cheaters.

3. Open PK -- now, I appreciate a good PvP arena duel as much as anyone. On the other hand, open PK is just an invitation for abuse, proven again and again in countless other games. 2moons is NO EXCEPTION. Expect some lamer to stab you in the ass whenever you play out of the safe zones (and the safe zones are tiny areas around the beginning maps). PvP duels with ranks and awards = battles of honour. Open PK = cowardly scum who can only win when they attack people from behind in surprise.

4. Botters + Open PK = that's right, if you're an honest, legitimate player, you'll soon discover that you're unable to traverse many areas safely, because of the multitude of bots that are programmed to auto-PK anyone who comes near them. I've only got a few gaming hours a day, I don't need to waste them spamming in town for someone to take down the bots. And don't say "you can simply log into a different server cluster", that's a stupid non-solution which ignores the problem AS WELL AS ignoring the fact that bots are on EVERY CLUSTER so you can't actually avoid them even if you wanted to.

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I have to agree, the game engine is pretty nice, most 3D MMOs which go for the realistic look tend to have movement/location lag, but this responds instantly (like Flyff, for example). Good latency handling. The item system also feels pretty good, although I have to admit that, once again, top tier equipment is set items so eventually everybody will be wearing the same crap (another design FAIL).

On the other hand... this game suffers from all the plagues of other overrun MMOs left discarded in the has-been pile: infested by botters, farmers, and cheaters; hardly any sign of GM policing; stupid stat balance means ALL classes' most viable build is: points into weapon requirements, rest into health (for more hp), i.e. tank builds; still using the tired old private shop system (central auction houses are much superior)

Sure, 2moons feels good at first, but once you run into the hordes of afk botters and rampant pk losers, it'll quickly feel like just one of those stupid old mmorpgs you left. Time to move to the next game.

Next.

The last poster is obviously a graphics whore. Sure, 2moons has one of the better item mod systems in most Korean-ported grindfests I've seen. But that's about it.

hmmm its you again... Hi..... hehehe....... you know what, I dont like 2moons, feel great coz having people like you bash about 2moons, cool... and GOD your grammar and your sentences, wish I can learn from you.. :D I see you doesn't like Korean MMO? GOD I admire you.... ^^

I don't hate Korean MMOs, it's just that there's too many which are similar mindless grindfests. It's like a class of Korean developers all recently graduated, and formed their own companies, and are churning out similar games.

1. None of them have meaningful stories. Go ahead and see. You can ignore NPCs almost totally, just buy stuff, go out and find a party, grind. That's it. That will get you through 99% of all those games. No thinking involved at all.

I'm tired of stupid mindless grindfests like this.

2. Stat balance is whacked. Almost every game I've seen, the only practical way to go is bare minimum stats for item/skill requirements, then rest all into hp/health or whatever you call it. You know balance is screwed when the only viable long term build is a tank build.

This is fucked up for people who want to experiment with different builds. Sure you can, but you get punished by dying excessively a lot more. So unless you turn into a potion-whore AND have a healer following you every second, anything less than a tank build doesn't work.

3. Decently coded game engines, but everything else feels tacked on last minute. Where are the involved quests which aren't fetchquests? Where are the non-combat skills, i.e. stuff you can do which DOESN'T involve yet more grinding?

I routinely read about GOOD player suggestions on various game forums. I KNOW that players are smart, and want more from games than just mindless grinding. So why the hell are the developers keep giving us these stupid grindfests? They compete with each other to give us shinier and better looking games, yet all of them fail in everything else. Fail miserably.

4. Open PK. I'm not against PvP, in fact PvP is great when you can rank yourself against other players. But all these "games" feature mindless slaughterfests where there's no reward nor punishment. Log into any of them and see. There's always complaints of bored high levels going around killing low levels. That immediately tells you that at high levels there's nothing to do, so they get bored and go around PK'ing.

I want PvP as well, but what the fuck is the use of Open PK? I can't tell whether the guy who jumped me is actually any good, or just some random moron who got lucky, or just some prick out for kicks. In a ranked arena setting, you can actually SEE how good everyone is. No bullshit ambushing.

Hell, there are TONS of ways to make PvP interesting. Like special contest duels, for example no using certain skills, or pets. Ladder rankings. Prizes and named items for winners. That kind of stuff. Shit, it isn't hard to do, compared to programming the actual game engine.

The only reason it's not in there, is that the devs don't give a fuck. They just want to push a game out, and milk us for cash.

Originally posted by Truecidation

I don't hate Korean MMOs, it's just that there's too many which are similar mindless grindfests. It's like a class of Korean developers all recently graduated, and formed their own companies, and are churning out similar games.

1. None of them have meaningful stories. Go ahead and see. You can ignore NPCs almost totally, just buy stuff, go out and find a party, grind. That's it. That will get you through 99% of all those games. No thinking involved at all.

I'm tired of stupid mindless grindfests like this.

2. Stat balance is whacked. Almost every game I've seen, the only practical way to go is bare minimum stats for item/skill requirements, then rest all into hp/health or whatever you call it. You know balance is screwed when the only viable long term build is a tank build.

This is fucked up for people who want to experiment with different builds. Sure you can, but you get punished by dying excessively a lot more. So unless you turn into a potion-whore AND have a healer following you every second, anything less than a tank build doesn't work.

3. Decently coded game engines, but everything else feels tacked on last minute. Where are the involved quests which aren't fetchquests? Where are the non-combat skills, i.e. stuff you can do which DOESN'T involve yet more grinding?

I routinely read about GOOD player suggestions on various game forums. I KNOW that players are smart, and want more from games than just mindless grinding. So why the hell are the developers keep giving us these stupid grindfests? They compete with each other to give us shinier and better looking games, yet all of them fail in everything else. Fail miserably.

4. Open PK. I'm not against PvP, in fact PvP is great when you can rank yourself against other players. But all these "games" feature mindless slaughterfests where there's no reward nor punishment. Log into any of them and see. There's always complaints of bored high levels going around killing low levels. That immediately tells you that at high levels there's nothing to do, so they get bored and go around PK'ing.

I want PvP as well, but what the fuck is the use of Open PK? I can't tell whether the guy who jumped me is actually any good, or just some random moron who got lucky, or just some prick out for kicks. In a ranked arena setting, you can actually SEE how good everyone is. No bullshit ambushing.

Hell, there are TONS of ways to make PvP interesting. Like special contest duels, for example no using certain skills, or pets. Ladder rankings. Prizes and named items for winners. That kind of stuff. Shit, it isn't hard to do, compared to programming the actual game engine.

The only reason it's not in there, is that the devs don't give a fuck. They just want to push a game out, and milk us for cash.

See what I mean guys? I can make this fella write an essay for me just posting some offensive words, humans are so adorable, hahaha.. Hey Truecidation, I hate 2moons as you are, I just want to see some people reactions if I put out some 'flame' around here, so is it worth it for you to wasting your time on people like me? Coz I got no Life!.... Hahaha...

oh god Ihsoyim, u're annoying, if u're not going to write any reviews or give any opinions about 2moons, can u pls leave this forum alone for god sake? and stop flaming others!

Jesus Christ Ihsoyim, that was the most ironic statement of the decade.

First of all, bashing someones grammar, when their grammar is nearly flawless, pathetic. But when you yourself cannot speak your way out of a paper bag, that is even more pathetic. Learn English then start bashing

Originally posted by PhobiaNZ

trust me...... download it is the best game i have ever played. and btw i bet the people are talking down to it

havent even played it or yet they cant play it ...

If it's the best...then i bet you haven't played anything worth it

lol Ihsoyim is really a coward , using my name in reverse to bash all ppl that don't like 2moons ...

Ihsoyim go back in 2moons if you like this crap , by having this kind of behavior (rev'ed copycat) you just show ppl how bad is the 2moons community and how crap is this game ...

Please read the whole article, Thanks in advance!

OK guyz, this is just my opinions about 2moons aka Dekaron. Before I play Dekaron, I've tried Cabal Online, Silkroad, Perfect World, Lineage2, Pirate Kings Online, Trickster, Granado Espada, Deco Online, Shaiya, Soul of the Ultimate Nation(SUN), Last Chaos, 9Dragons, Hero Online, MoSiang, Rappelz and RF Online(Rising Force). All in all, I only like to play Cabal online, Dekaron, SUN and RFO, only these 4 mmo still remain in my hard drive right now, lol. 

Before I try out Dekaron, I play Cabal(Taiwan version), in my own favorites list, Cabal is still one of the best mmo! After I've play Cabal for almost one month, Cabal Taiwan started the IP Ban! They block other countries IP except their own, and I tell u what, that was the worst moment in my life for not able to play Cabal anymore!

After the IP Ban incident, I tried to play some mmo listed above, I just couldn't get the 'Cabal' feelings, so I deleted some of those. Then, I found Dekaron (also Taiwan Version), saw from youtube, really caught my eyes, and its F2P so I just download it and install to my PC. If not mistaken, I started to play Dekaron in June this year.

Firstly, It's a bit let down when I tried to create a character, no customization at all? Even no gender selection? Well, I guess if the gameplay is fun, then it will not be a problem for me, so I created a character name, choose Incar Magician and log into the game, and the next thing I realize I logged into the trade channel,(1st channel in Taiwan Server is a trade channel) where the chat box is full with Goldsellers and Spammers! Which I dont like! So I just ignored it and took my 1st quest, the quest won't show at the mini map, u have to click at the quest list to read and find the NPC.  (I dont know why but in Dekaron Taiwan, the NPC speaks normally, not swearing, cursing or talking shits like u guyz mention in 2moons acclaim) OK enough talk! Off to kill monsters! IMO the skills are great, flashy and smooth. I started to feel the grind after I hit level 20, and some of the quests will not reward u EXP%, but will give u some nice slotted weapon/armor.

Open PK!? Oh I hate it! Can u just immagine when u were training alone and some ignorant fool came and PK u? Oh ya I did try to fight them back, what would u think? He is like 100 level above than me! Sometimes I just let them kill me and their name turn red color, so they became a criminal, and I thought they will receive some sort of punishment or something like that? But Hell no! They ask their friends to kill them back so that their name will turn to white(normal) again. Duh!?... High level players have nothing to do than to kill innocent newbies? Im fed up with all this stupid PK'ers and nearly gave up Dekaron, if comparing with Cabal, I still prefer Cabal, so I try my best to find any available Cabal server, and I found out using proxycaps and Http Tunnel, I managed to get in Cabal Europe with some latency. At that moment, I stopped playing Dekaron for a while and concentrate on Cabal Europe, felt so happy to have Cabal back!  Sometimes, I'll log into Dekaron and train for 30mins, then log out.

A few months later, I met some new online friends in Dekaron, they brought me to higher level maps to harvest EXP, there is a method called "pulling the train" when harvesting for EXP points. "pulling the train" means in a party, one player will become a train's head and stay in front of other players, others will just click the "follow" tabs and follow the "train" to lure huge amount of mobs then use AOE skills to hit the mobs at once! Using this method is pretty fast for levelling! My online friends keep urging me for joining their guild, I did join them, and I make more online friends after I joined, some of them will just give me some special items/armor/weapon.

Whole things changed in Dekaron when my online friends introduce me to Dead Front(See my dead front's thread from this forum to find out what dead front is). Can u believe it? Last week my character only level 60, and this morning I hit level 69! Grind? Not at all. After nearly 4 months try out Dekaron, I realize whenever we play a mmorpg, the most important things is to meet new people, make new friends, and of course, having Fun! It'll get very enjoyful if u play along with the people or friends u like to hang around. I'm having fun right now playing Dekaron along with my brother and cousin, aiming to get myself "Wings Of The Sun" on level 102, still a long way to go though... lol... I just stopped playing Cabal Europe and wait for CabalSEA to release, now concentrating on Dekaron.

Tired of Spammers, Goldsellers? Try change to other channel, in Dekaron Taiwan, spammers and goldsellers only active in trade channel. Afraid of Pk'ers? If u join a guild, ur guild members will get rid of that, at least my guild done that, u'll have some sweet revenge on some BadA$$ that bullied u. lol... Finally, Botters, so far I've seen only few(not more than 5) in Dekaron Taiwan, I think botters are strictly prohibited in Dekaron Taiwan and GM have done their job to Ban player's account whoever using bots, the thing is, why should u bother all those botters? just play ur game dude, so what if the botters levelling faster than u? It seems that they weren't enjoy the game, so they use Bot, gaining items and levels even when they sleep or eat. For me, I want to touch and feel the game that I like, not by cheating or AFK. And guyz u know what? Keylogging Trojans are often embedded in Botting Programs, so here's the warning sign for Bot users: 'that game cheat maybe cheating u'. As for Acclaim's David Perry and his 2Moons, I hope they'll do some improvement and add some expansion. Anyway, all the Best Guyz, and good luck to u all! 

*Sorry for my bad English.