Asian MMO's = Garbage....nuff said.

That is a really stupid comment. Just because a game is from asia does not mean it will be garbage. Look at "Perfect World" for example...that game is definilty not garbage, but has come from asia. 2moons is the same..it is not garbage, though it was made from a model of a game from asia.

Originally posted by Nunez1212

Some of you may think 2moons is horrible, but me an alot of other peole like it. In a recent article on the 2moons official forums, they stated that 100,000 people registered the first day and the number keeps growing. They said that it will reach one million very soon, so obviously a good bit of people enjoy the game....this game does not baby step you through the game. You have to figure it out on your own, and yes it can be difficult at times, but it gets very fun later on. Please do not say it is a bad game unless you atleast reach level 34....because that is were it starts to get pretty good. You  start to party in big instanced dungeons and so forth, but before then its a lot more difficult to keep coming back to play.

If a game's not fun out of the box, then the game has issues.  Having to wait to grind up to level x before getting to any fun is pretty much contrary to why one plays a game in the first place, yes? 

Originally posted by Nunez1212

Some of you may think 2moons is horrible, but me an alot of other peole like it. In a recent article on the 2moons official forums, they stated that 100,000 people registered the first day and the number keeps growing. They said that it will reach one million very soon, so obviously a good bit of people enjoy the game....this game does not baby step you through the game. You have to figure it out on your own, and yes it can be difficult at times, but it gets very fun later on. Please do not say it is a bad game unless you atleast reach level 34....because that is were it starts to get pretty good. You  start to party in big instanced dungeons and so forth, but before then its a lot more difficult to keep coming back to play.

The game is in beta testing, which means that it's free, so anyone with the slightest bit of interest will give it a try.  This has absolutely nothing to do with how good a game is.  Even if there are a million accounts created, the game could suck just as easily as it could be great.  I have not tried it, and know very little about it so I won't pass judgement, but the number of beta accounts and the quality of a game are very loosely related.

Originally posted by fmaalex

Originally posted by liddokun

Asian grinders will always have a place in the market today, they fill a void and cater to the "I can't fork over $15 a month" crowd. If you can pay the fee then you deserve a better game and avoid the grinders. If you can't pay then expect games that are in the lesser A or B rated game category. Grinders are designed for "long term" enjoyment, you will spend many many (hundreds) of man hours grinding up your toon so you will most likely not give up your char easily, it's also designed to be simple to play and to retain customers using FREE2Play via in-game advertising/item shop model. As long as there are people grinding away then advertising model works. Unfortunately these games simply does not measure up to the standards of AAA rated games. There's really no point in trashing FREE2Play games, it's like going to the homeless soup kitchen then demanding a 5 star restaurant service.

thats ur opinion, L2 is a korean grinder, yet many peeps paid and continue to play it. Many peeps enjoy grinding and "earning" your items and level, mmos today (ever since WoW actually) has been dumbed down to the western society, leveling for dummies so to speak. The majority of MMO gamers now-a-days came from the MMO rush created by WoW, who plays WoW as their first, or second MMO and is accustom to the easy leveling, most of the old skool MMO gamers do not agree to this kind of dumbed down MMO and thats y grinders continue to exist to cater to the those peeps. I think its unfair to state grinders as homeless soup kitchen and western games as "5 star restaurant service". Cuz if u ask me, the toon-like graphics and gameplay of wow makes me feel like its more like McDonalds than a 5 star resturant.

call me crazy, but i just don't find having excessive grind in a game less "dumb" than western games. In nearly all of these f2p asian mmo's grinding is partially engaging at best, and subconciously done at the worst. Easy leveling doesn't mean the game is for dumb people, it just means the game is for people who don't want hand blisters I think that the real "dumbed down" games are the ones where the site says "character can complete quest and monster kill for experience extra and game advancement" If a game really wants to be engaging, it should have a real storyline, not the translated pieces of crap were fed from most asian mmo's and more than just a kill kill kill w/ no motive type of gameplay. Id feel more proud of myself and more intelligent if i was able to solve a mystery in game as opposed to saying "my hammer has the blood of 1000 orcs on it now" and the problem with 2moons is that all it is is grind, and yes i did get past lvl 34, there is no difference between this game and other ported asian games. In the quests i don't even remember hearing anything about 2 moons in the game