Originally posted by alkarionlog

Originally posted by khartokhar3

Originally posted by thedarkess

MMOs converting to F2P or B2P with no pay2win cash shop is a good and healthy trend. I hope other developers follow it.

those f2p games without pay 2 win shops earn their money by sellin their expansions..aion will bring expansions for free so the only money they can earn is from the cash shop...now maybe u can imagine what that means.

so you mean what GW did till now is not true? and since L2 and most of koreans MMo never asked for us buy expansion packs, because the sub we pay cover the dev costs and server running costs too.

 

its not because sony sold expansion plus sub and blizzard liked this idea to milk some even more money from they player base, this means its ok

did i say anywhere what gw did was not true? they sold expansions and earned money with it. never heared of pay 2 win items in their cs.

dont get what u try to tell me with the rest of your text.

I think it will be interesting to see if they are able to be successful without being Pay To Win.  It may be at least some indication of what they are planning with GW2.

Originally posted by NMStudio

I think it will be interesting to see if they are able to be successful without being Pay To Win.  It may be at least some indication of what they are planning with GW2.

With a healthy playerbase again I see no reason whatsoever that they cannot make a great return on the Gold status, pets, house stuff (in the near future), mounts, PvE 'easers' (XP pots, bank/ bag expanders etc), emotes, and skins (even dyes).

I mean, I prefer a sub model myself and to play for what I earn, but folks seem to eat this 'buy a new hat' stuff up, especially from what I saw in the game last time I was in.

IMO going pay to win would be a disaster for them in the West, and I think they get that.

Originally posted by vesavius

Originally posted by khartokhar3

Originally posted by alkarionlog

Originally posted by Alminie

But isn't this in Europe only, not NA?

only european, and looks like for at least till february will not become a F2P, though right now if you want to play the aion F2P just go play the eu server let us in na without this hassle, also even though its not pay to win now, it will be most of the F2P server never start with p2w, it will come after 3-4 months, so they can milk even more from they player base when the rest of the still somewhere sane start to leave.

gonna try to transfer my account to na..i hope i can do that..otherwise there is no point to play aion longer then till february.

 

Why would you do that? I am confused...

The current EU servers will be left intact, and as someone who has paid already into the game you will be a 'Gold' memner from the start...

All this can do for you is rejunvenate your game, and maybe save you some money.

I mean... if the launch an abomination of a CS then by all means bail to NA, but I don't see why you would do that just based on the fact that you will be getting more players on your server and don't have to pay.

first of all i wont be a gold member but a veteran..different is that gold members will get higher rewards for sieges and also have a lesser cool down for instances.

and as i said u dont need to believe it. im playin mmos for so many years. i know how publishers work. and i know what they mean when they say "in pvp everyone will have the same chance". it means nothin else then everyone can have the same succes rate to upgrade his gear if they pay enough money on the cash shop.

so yes i will try to transfer to the na server..otherwise i will just take a break from mmos till gw2.

Originally posted by vesavius

Originally posted by NMStudio

I think it will be interesting to see if they are able to be successful without being Pay To Win.  It may be at least some indication of what they are planning with GW2.

 

With a healthy playerbase again I see no reason whatsoever that they cannot make a great return on pets, house stuff (in the near future), mounts, PvE 'easers' (XP pots, bank/ bag expanders etc), emotes, and skins (even dyes).

I mean, I prefer a sub model myself and to play for what I earn, but folks seem to eat this 'buy a new hat' stuff up, especially from what I saw in the game last time I was in.

IMO going pay to win would be a disaster for them in the West, and I think they get that.

i,m kind of gettin my hopes up for the pve side,but i think i maybe dissapointed...problem is it is not goin to be a fresh start,what its goin to be is all uk guys that want to be on uk server with gameforge can have there accounts transferred..i have already asked for it to be transferred,unless i understand wrong my chars will be there..but i suppose with them being on pvp server atm they will stay there...not really quite sure how its goin to work yet..will have to wait and see i suppose.

Originally posted by khartokhar3

Originally posted by vesavius

Originally posted by khartokhar3

Originally posted by alkarionlog

Originally posted by Alminie

But isn't this in Europe only, not NA?

only european, and looks like for at least till february will not become a F2P, though right now if you want to play the aion F2P just go play the eu server let us in na without this hassle, also even though its not pay to win now, it will be most of the F2P server never start with p2w, it will come after 3-4 months, so they can milk even more from they player base when the rest of the still somewhere sane start to leave.

gonna try to transfer my account to na..i hope i can do that..otherwise there is no point to play aion longer then till february.

 

Why would you do that? I am confused...

The current EU servers will be left intact, and as someone who has paid already into the game you will be a 'Gold' memner from the start...

All this can do for you is rejunvenate your game, and maybe save you some money.

I mean... if the launch an abomination of a CS then by all means bail to NA, but I don't see why you would do that just based on the fact that you will be getting more players on your server and don't have to pay.

first of all i wont be a gold member but a veteran..different is that gold members will get higher rewards for sieges and also have a lesser cool down for instances.

Thats fair enough, but I guess it depends on the price on the Gold pack. Talking about bailing before knowing that seems premature to me... it may very well be the cost of the sub you are paying already (which I think is actually likely).

Even if you chose to not go down that route as a Vet you get full access to everything... your game is actually unchanged.

"If you took out an Aion subscription before the changeover, you receive "Veteran" status. It does not matter whether your subscription is still active or expired some time ago. As a Veteran all game options are open to you, just as with a subscription. In addition, there is no time limit to this status. Once you are a Veteran, you remain one!" 

I don't personally get why everything staying basically unchanged for you, except more players and no sub, would make you bail, but hey ho... Your choice.

and as i said u dont need to believe it. im playin mmos for so many years. i know how publishers work...

As have I, obviously. I still take every new dev and publisher as a new case though, I don't judge one on the actions of the other, because I refuse to get cynical about the whole industry. I will wait for Gameforge to act badly before judging them so.

Hell, if I prejudged publishers as harshly as I am seeing here off you I wouldn't even touch GW2, seeing as NCSoft is handling that game and their past track record.

so yes i will try to transfer to the na server..otherwise i will just take a break from mmos till gw2.

fair enough, your game, I am just trying to understand your reaction :)

Originally posted by kevjards

Originally posted by vesavius

Originally posted by NMStudio

I think it will be interesting to see if they are able to be successful without being Pay To Win.  It may be at least some indication of what they are planning with GW2.

 

With a healthy playerbase again I see no reason whatsoever that they cannot make a great return on pets, house stuff (in the near future), mounts, PvE 'easers' (XP pots, bank/ bag expanders etc), emotes, and skins (even dyes).

I mean, I prefer a sub model myself and to play for what I earn, but folks seem to eat this 'buy a new hat' stuff up, especially from what I saw in the game last time I was in.

IMO going pay to win would be a disaster for them in the West, and I think they get that.

i,m kind of gettin my hopes up for the pve side,but i think i maybe dissapointed...problem is it is not goin to be a fresh start,what its goin to be is all uk guys that want to be on uk server with gameforge can have there accounts transferred..i have already asked for it to be transferred,unless i understand wrong my chars will be there..but i suppose with them being on pvp server atm they will stay there...not really quite sure how its goin to work yet..will have to wait and see i suppose.

All I saw was this...

"Can I transfer my characters to one of the new servers?  No. It will not be possible to transfer to a new server to start with. However, you can begin a new adventure with another character there." 

http://www.aionfreetoplay.com/website/faq/item/gamecontent_06 

Have you seen different? :/