There is an ANTI Game Guard Voting on the Aion Beta Boards. Perhaps NC Soft will listen to the Community if enough People participate!

LINK:

betaboards.aiononline.com/showthread.php

Please Vote!

probably never happen

Vote with your money - by not buying the game.

Cant post because apperently i dont have a active account ..>.>
 

Anyway, in a recent podcast with the deloveper of Aion he stated that they are looking into the option of removing GameGuard and implenting something else.

They know the ammount of critisism they are getting.

From what I have been reading about this whole deal, a main reason for Aion's high performance is the fact of anti-cheat mechanisms being client-side, rather than server-side. If that is accurate, then you will either have NO anti-cheat software, something just like GG on your system, or have performance degraded by server-side checks against cheating.

Aion sounded too good to be true, and perhaps it is.

Another one bites the dust?

You don't want them to get rid of gameguard.  Heaven forbid they replace it with Punkbuster or a delayed system like VAC.

I have played lineage 2 for years and now play Aion and i dont have any gameguard issues,

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

From what I have been reading about this whole deal, a main reason for Aion's high performance is the fact of anti-cheat mechanisms being client-side, rather than server-side. If that is accurate, then you will either have NO anti-cheat software, something just like GG on your system, or have performance degraded by server-side checks against cheating.

Aion sounded too good to be true, and perhaps it is.

 

Another one bites the dust?

MMO_Doubter no one will take you seriously with that name.

even if its not a success in EU/NA its still a success.

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

From what I have been reading about this whole deal, a main reason for Aion's high performance is the fact of anti-cheat mechanisms being client-side, rather than server-side. If that is accurate, then you will either have NO anti-cheat software, something just like GG on your system, or have performance degraded by server-side checks against cheating.

Aion sounded too good to be true, and perhaps it is.

 

Another one bites the dust?

 

MMO_Doubter no one will take you seriously with that name.

So, you have no doubts?

my question is what will they implement if game guard is removed?

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

From what I have been reading about this whole deal, a main reason for Aion's high performance is the fact of anti-cheat mechanisms being client-side, rather than server-side. If that is accurate, then you will either have NO anti-cheat software, something just like GG on your system, or have performance degraded by server-side checks against cheating.

Aion sounded too good to be true, and perhaps it is.

 

Another one bites the dust?

 

MMO_Doubter no one will take you seriously with that name.

So, you have no doubts?

wat?

<- Mind fucked lulz

@OP - Lineage 2 had a few Anti-Gameguard threads as well. NCSoft's stance on it is to dance around them with PR non-sense (just like all large companies) and ultimately, the stance is that it was the lesser of several evils to choose from. No one likes it, but quite honestly, it's one of the most reliable.

PunkBuster is absolutely useless. It doesn't block much and in turn usually drops your connection every so often. Face it, Game Guard is one of the only anti-cheat software packages for developers that have had over 3 years of real world experience in the MMO market. Eventually, there will be other choices and possibly even better ones. Like an anti-cheat package that properly uninstalls itself when the game is uninstalled.

@MMO_doubter, .... hrm.. where to start. Well, first off you basically outlined the two choices that any client/server application need to make (server checks vs. client checks) - for any program or game on the planet. Because the rendering engine is as close to real time as possible, some (if not most) of those checks will need to be made on the client. If they are made on the server, they are in addition to the same exact checks on the client. Which is always seen as a waste, but in highly secure environments - necessary. An MMO is not a highly secure environment. It doesn't need to be.

In an open world game, if you are on the other side of the wall from me, your data will need to be sent to my client. Even if I can't see you. Why? Because, the game engine renders your foot steps. The wall itself may be semi-transparent. The wall eventually ends into an open area which if either of us walk two feet forward, will see the other one. Since the data is on my client, I can easily write a DirectX program that hijacks a shader or watches for specific functions that are responsible for applying the wall texture on the wall itself. By my program will simply make it 100% transparent. Now, I can see easily see where you are walking and I will go around to the other side and get the jump on you.

There are hundreds of simular scenarios - this is why some client side software is needed. This isn't the fault of a bad developer making a game riddled with bugs. It isn't the fault of Microsoft allowing Direct X applications to communicate with one another. It isn't the fault of the video card companies who write the driver's themselves that don't have secure modes. It's the fault of a very small crowd that can (and will) ruin the gaming experience for every single player on the same server. The only true defense is to make sure that everyone is on an even playing field. If you don't Game Guard - don't buy the game. They are GOING to have a third party anti-cheat package included with the game. If it isn't Game Guard, it will be something else.

Also, how can someone doubt the success of a game that has already been in release for a year now enjoyed by a player base well in the millions? Other than localization, the only thing that needs to be done is to set up a competant server network to be enjoyed here in the States.

only people worried with gameguard is people running macros software or another 'shady' software.. just wish there was even an higer eficient controll guard system.

umm i'd rather keep game guard which problems were easy to troubleshoot anyways and have less hacking... That's just me being an ass to all you hackers but oh well...