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Wow just wow. The game is already failing before it even hits the Western market. But I should have known it would happen, since in Lineage2 same thing has aplied here. Bots and Hacks where so rampert in Lineage 2 we posted it on the official EU/US forums, and all the moderaters did was delete/ban the people that didnt hack the game just to save there stainend reputation. Also the lack of communication between the EU/US devs/mods is non-existend, so dont bring your hopes up that it will be fixed for us cause it wouldnt. And all the nay-sayers are just either huge blindend fan-bois or planning to use the hacks themselfs. Either way seems in Korea people get tired of cheaters they all start cheating too ironic isnt it. |
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not to alarm abyone but ive just come from the current beta and i spotted a speed hacker
i know your thinking lag ect ect but this was most defo not that he was running at such a speed compared to everyone else around him and not just 10/20% because i know assasins have a run speed buff but he was a preist and he was at least around 70% run speed and haveing played on the CN servers for the past 2 months and been OWNEd by these hackers i know what it is when i see it...i did make a report and stuff but thats all i can really do
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Originally posted by Home15
mm these hack are so deep ,player that have full released game have to loose time each day to research to make sure they have all new possible hack to be able to compete against other pvp player hack loaded beurk not my style of fun there is no way even if the player is from corea ,could he ever hope to compete in pvp without being hacked to death but its a double edged knife,get caugh hacking by ncsoft and you can say goodby to aion even thot your just trying to stay competitive with the real cheater |
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Laughing-man
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Originally posted by drbaltazar
mm these hack are so deep ,player that have full released game have to loose time each day to research to make sure they have all new possible hack to be able to compete against other pvp player hack loaded beurk not my style of fun there is no way even if the player is from corea ,could he ever hope to compete in pvp without being hacked to death but its a double edged knife,get caugh hacking by ncsoft and you can say goodby to aion even thot your just trying to stay competitive with the real cheater
Yesterday in WORLD OF WARCRAFT <-- I was attacked by a TELEPORTING PALADIN. He would vanish WHILE IN COMBAT every 5 or so seconds, reappear and then attack, as soon as he got low on HP he'd vanish again and then come back a second later with full HP and MP.
Server: Tichondrus. Hacking is on EVERY GAME. Its unavoidable, cheaters will find ways to cheat. Aion's anti hack program seems superior to other anti hack programs however. |
So what game should we look forward now? lmao
All games have um so in your case i guess non |
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Originally posted by Home15
Wow, just wow, on how fast to judge and reach conclusions the OP and so many of you are. Obviously if hacks are not deat with and become common, it will destroy the game, because that's what happens to PvP Centric games where hacks are not addressed. To conclude how NCsoft will, or is, dealing with this issue at this point in time is grossly moronic, or to say it a nice way, must come from those who have no real world life experience to speak of. Take a step back and understand that while it would be great to hear directly from NCsoft on this issue, and we very well may prior to release, they probably understand that results mean more than talk. If some of you lack the confidence NCsoft will address this in a satisfactory manner, don't buy the game until, and if, you ever feel differently. Most will buy the game because it's fun, and "if" these issues prove a real problem, then obviously many will stop subscribing at some point, but that's a big "if", and to jump to there, from here, one either has some other agenda, or is a fool. -CC Originally posted by StrixMaxima www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3033016 |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Yesterday in WORLD OF WARCRAFT <-- I was attacked by a TELEPORTING PALADIN. He would vanish WHILE IN COMBAT every 5 or so seconds, reappear and then attack, as soon as he got low on HP he'd vanish again and then come back a second later with full HP and MP.
Server: Tichondrus. Hacking is on EVERY GAME. Its unavoidable, cheaters will find ways to cheat. Aion's anti hack program seems superior to other anti hack programs however. Did you report the Paladin in question? Blizzard loves to ban hackers and cheaters. Provided that you report them. NCSoft on the other hand, does not. As is evident by this thread. They haven't done it with Lineage II and they don't seem to be doing anything with Aion in Korea. As for Aion's anti hack program being superior, lol it isn't. Game"guard" is the worst anti-cheat software available. Not only does it not stop anyone it also causes conflicts with other software.
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Laughing-man
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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes. |
Originally posted by heartless
Yesterday in WORLD OF WARCRAFT <-- I was attacked by a TELEPORTING PALADIN. He would vanish WHILE IN COMBAT every 5 or so seconds, reappear and then attack, as soon as he got low on HP he'd vanish again and then come back a second later with full HP and MP.
Server: Tichondrus. Hacking is on EVERY GAME. Its unavoidable, cheaters will find ways to cheat. Aion's anti hack program seems superior to other anti hack programs however. Did you report the Paladin in question? Blizzard loves to ban hackers and cheaters. Provided that you report them. NCSoft on the other hand, does not. As is evident by this post. As for Aion's anti hack program being superior, lol it isn't. Game"guard" is the worst anti-cheat software available. Not only does it not stop anyone it also causes conflicts with other software.
For sure I reported them immediately. Had my friend who was there report them too. There were about 5 witnesses too, they all reported him too. Hes banned if WoW has any good GMs working for them at all. (BTW he was a Holy paladin and his JCing was about 130, I wowheaded him. He was ganking people out side of SM) Why cheat to gank lowbies? How pathetic.
Btw the reason the JC comment was stated is because people at first told me they thought it was an engineering thing, but after I saw they were a JCer I know for a fact that they were cheating. |
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heartless
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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by Laughing-man Did you report the Paladin in question? Blizzard loves to ban hackers and cheaters. Provided that you report them. NCSoft on the other hand, does not. As is evident by this post. As for Aion's anti hack program being superior, lol it isn't. Game"guard" is the worst anti-cheat software available. Not only does it not stop anyone it also causes conflicts with other software.
For sure I reported them immediately. Had my friend who was there report them too. There were about 5 witnesses too, they all reported him too. Hes banned if WoW has any good GMs working for them at all. (BTW he was a Holy paladin and his JCing was about 130, I wowheaded him. He was ganking people out side of SM) Why cheat to gank lowbies? How pathetic.
Btw the reason the JC comment was stated is because people at first told me they thought it was an engineering thing, but after I saw they were a JCer I know for a fact that they were cheating. Some people are just stupid. Sometimes it could be attributed to lag though. It happened to me a few years ago, when I was downloading something and playing WoW. I've had a much crappier PC back then too. Anyway, people started whispering me and calling me a hacker because I kept disappearing and reappearing all over the place. After I rebooted, the problem went away. What I'm trying to say here is that the paly may have been using some sort of a speed hack or he may have been really lagging. Sometimes it's hard to tell.
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Originally posted by mugengaia NCsoft US has been a joke... 99% of the heroes in L2 are BOTS, they rule every server and make fun of legit players. They also make money over L2 (selling Adena for rl money). I highly doubt NCwest will be efficient enough against cheaters. But who knows... let's see. SUPER-HGMSpam is the head GM of Aion after all
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by ChinaCat
This is not Lineage ][. If you have no confidence that a game company can evolve, and must base your decisions on a five year old game, good for you. You sound just as idiotic as the SOE haters. -CC My personal opinion, and one of the reasons why I am reluctant to pre-order, is that since NCSoft pretty much does nothing to combat cheating in all of their other p2p games, why would they just turn around and start doing it with Aion? Lineage II is still a p2p game, yet they ignore it, I don't see how Aion is going to be different.
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Originally posted by heartless
This is not Lineage ][. If you have no confidence that a game company can evolve, and must base your decisions on a five year old game, good for you. You sound just as idiotic as the SOE haters. -CC My personal opinion, and one of the reasons why I am reluctant to pre-order, is that since NCSoft pretty much does nothing to combat cheating in all of their other p2p games, why would they just turn around and start doing it with Aion? Lineage II is still a p2p game, yet they ignore it, I don't see how Aion is going to be different.
yep you feel exacly like me and million of player that have been playing fully released game but so far ..bip....bip...bip |
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But Lineage ][ has such a low NA subscriber market, it is not exactly where its priorities are. You're entitled to your opinion, and should not buy the game if you feel that way. If you hear things are different, then maybe you'd reconsider; but to predict all this gloom and doom is rediculous. -CC Originally posted by StrixMaxima www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3033016 |
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Originally posted by goku21
I saw one as well, I chalked it up to possible lag due to beta and so many new players but I saw this person 3 other times in separate areas and each time was running +100% speed at least. I'm hoping it's just a beta thing and they have learned alot from Lineage ][ but only time will really tell and this would be the driving force driving away a good amount of NA players if bots/hacks aren't kept in control. Fight my Brute Clicky!! |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by ChinaCat
One of the reasons Lineage II has such a low subscriber numbers in the west is because of NCSoft not really doing anything to combat the cheaters. I think someone in upper management is under the illusion that Gameguard actually works. Either way, I'm not predicting anything. I'm simply basing my opinion on NCSoft's performance--now and in the past. Can NCSoft turn around and take a strong stance against cheating? Absolutely. However, I will not buy this game until they actually do.
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Originally posted by heartless
One of the reasons Lineage II has such a low subscriber numbers in the west is because of NCSoft not really doing anything to combat the cheaters. I think someone in upper management is under the illusion that Gameguard actually works. Either way, I'm not predicting anything. I'm simply basing my opinion on NCSoft's performance--now and in the past. Can NCSoft turn around and take a strong stance against cheating? Absolutely. However, I will not buy this game until they actually do.
Then I am assuming you are not playing any MMORPG at this time? |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
Originally posted by patryns
Then I am assuming you are not playing any MMORPG at this time? EVE Online and LoTRO every once in a while.
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Originally posted by ChinaCat
Aion is fun no doubt abouth it, and im sure when people start playing it be a amazing. However this is a pvp centric based endgame (with one champion on each server if i remember right?), and since the Damage Hack that one/two shot people im sure many will leave in disgust. Also leaving up to the winner that made champion/hero or whatever its called up to debate if it got earnend legaly. Personaly I dont mind much speed hacks or unlimited flying cheaters, however one shot kills is equal to godlike mode and that however needs to be adressed. |
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Originally posted by Home15
Aion is fun no doubt abouth it, and im sure when people start playing it be a amazing. However this is a pvp centric based endgame (with one champion on each server if i remember right?), and since the Damage Hack that one/two shot people im sure many will leave in disgust. Also leaving up to the winner that made champion/hero or whatever its called up to debate if it got earnend legaly. Personaly I dont mind much speed hacks or unlimited flying cheaters, however one shot kills is equal to godlike mode and that however needs to be adressed. yep one problem ncsoft is busy on coffee machine so when you call em phone ring like this we arecurrently busy please call later |
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Originally posted by ChinaCat
This is not Lineage ][. If you have no confidence that a game company can evolve, and must base your decisions on a five year old game, good for you. You sound just as idiotic as the SOE haters. -CC
You would spit on the NCsoft logo if you had played L2 NA Let's hope they learned from their mistakes hehe |
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Hacks happen, they happen in every game. In 2005, the first warp hack for WoW came out. In late 2005, Blizzard introduced Warden. In 2009, game hackers still warp around. They still cheat, and if anything the hacks have gotten worse and able to do more things.
I know a game hacker in China. All he does is makes game hacks and sells them, at one point he was making $30k a month - there's a LOT of money in game hacks. I know guys who make bots and sell them as well, I have contacts at most of the bot companies.
People have been game hacking since before MMOs existed, at that time it might have been gameshark or a simple hex edit. These days, as Blizzzard has broaught more players into mmo's then ever before, more and more players make hacks and bots. There is no way around it.
A developer can make a anti-cheat program, but it will only stop the low level game hackers. For the rest of us, they need stronger game protections... and sorry to say, but neither Warden nor GameGuard will stop the hard core game hackers that make cheats for the rest of us, stop working.
And yah, if you're surprised about censorship, when it comes to the game developers, you shouldn't be. Just as I cannot post a link to my exploit site without getting a ban here or over there, you cannot post a game hack or spread the word about them. If you want to help NCSoft out, report a bug to their closed forums, but don't spread the news on their own forums and expect leniency. Spitt |
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Originally posted by HongKong
This is not Lineage ][. If you have no confidence that a game company can evolve, and must base your decisions on a five year old game, good for you. You sound just as idiotic as the SOE haters. -CC
You would spit on the NCsoft logo if you had played L2 NA Let's hope they learned from their mistakes hehe
I did play Lineage ][ and loved the game. In fact, I just resubscribed to it after a year away. The bots suck, but I just kill them. The Guild vs Guild and Siege PvP owns. Most NA players have immediate gratification issues. Like I said, AION isn't L2, and AION is made with the NA market in mind; L2 was not. -CC Originally posted by StrixMaxima www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3033016 |
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They ruined L2 with the bots and they will ruin Aion with the bots, they will ruin with bots and hacks every game they release. It's their bussines, they make a fun, hard and adictive game and then they let you use bots and hacks. Thats why I didnt bother too much about Aion, I know how probably the game will develop, it will become a a bot and hack fest. Why?, because they think is a good idea for their games. -=AlaKraM=- |
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Originally posted by heartless
Then I am assuming you are not playing any MMORPG at this time? EVE Online Great game and all however in the context of your argument it's quite hilarious. Unless of course, you're unaware of what took place between CCP and a certain guild last year? I have to agree with the other posters who have stated in online gaming there's always going to be hacks/hackers. Some companies are more lax than others in dealing with it sure, however you're always going to see it. Sad reality I know, even more sad players resort to using such methods. If you can ignore it you're better off, for every hacker there are 10 players playing legitimately and doing just as well. Bot's on the other hand are more of a problem IMO, due to their impact on in-game economies. There's no argument that L2 has a horrible track record in terms of botting. We'll have to wait and see if NC steps up their combative efforts in this game. For every minute You are angry , You lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson |
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Originally posted by mugengaia
Well, no I'm not hurt...LOL
I quit the game for good. Closed my account, and never want to play Aion again. As for the hacks. It is really bad in Korea. Almost all the top ranking PvPers in the Abyss are hack users.
Sometimes you're lvl50 and you get 2sec destroyed by some 30 lvl assassin...which is by the way Bullshit. Anyways, good luck to all you NA/EU gamers waiting for the release. I doubt the hacks and bots will ever really be moderated by the GMs or the dev. team in NA/EU. For one Kim Taek Jin doesn't give a rat's ass about customers, and it's been old news. I guess I'll just go back to WoW...or try LOTRO. I've been wanting to try LOTRO...since people have been telling me Moria's interesting... Well, anyways good luck to you guys. be a little careful with lotro i played it for a couple of months cancelled due to moving house and found they billed me after i cancelled . the game itself is ok not great but playable enough but i just wont play it out of principle now . if your going to play the safest way is timecard . |
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