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  Pelaaja

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 261

 
2/08/10 12:43:21 AM#1

I finally got to level 50 (Elysean Assassin, Spatalos (EU)).

I also got my Expert Weaponsmith quest done, as I managed to craft Noble Worthy Durable Orichalcum Sword.

Crafting that piece was a pita and there was a lot of luck involved (first you have to crit Noble Durable Orichalcum Sword and then crit that Noble Worthy. But, so what. Been there done that :D

I also got the quest Project Drakanhammer done and now I have these beautiful wings (it's not me in the picture, it just shows the wings).

I was at the brink of quitting, because nothing seemed to work out and I was broke because of the Weaponsmith quest.

Now the game starts again for me :)

Good day to ya all, Faith and Arms!

 

  Larry2298

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Joined: 1/27/05
Posts: 738

2/08/10 3:17:54 AM#2

I was trying to crit the Noble Durable Orb (lv299 crafting) but since I didn't buy gold from goldsellers, it seems impossible to continue crafting. The greater catalyst sold by NPC is 3,115 kinah, each craft needs 44 of them equals to 137,060 kinah. 40 Greater Wistone needs 80 Greater Elemental stone, 14 Greater Power Crystal = 56 Greater Elemental stone.

If you grind the material by yourself, you need to kill at least 156 mobs but the mob does not drop greater elemental stone every time, let's say every 5 kills you got one, it means you need to kill 780 mobs.

Then it needs Aether Gem (lv200 aether extract), 55 aether gem = 11 Big Vortex. OK, this part is easy, the most difficult one is obtain the Fine Weapon FLux, each craft needs 6 flux. The price each sell in Auction House is around 20,000 up to 50,000.

Everything listed above you could x 10 because no matter how lucky you are, you will never get crit at first time nor 3 times.

If you really grind all material for your crafting, you will be level 50 without doing any quest.

A few of my character never doing any quest just getting XP from crafting. I supposed you could XPing crafting up to level 45 without doing quest in this game. Pick up all crafts and level it up to 399 then just hold up the lv399 until you hit level 50. Voila. This game sux.

Most of my 20ish character still using lv7-9 armors and weapons because they are all leveling up in the crafting room. Just now, Sorcerer is my highest lv36, she has been leveled up from 30 all way to 36 and I will continue to level Sor up to lv 50 because there is no reason to grind mobs. Besides, the game has serious inflation problem same as Zimbabewe, you need 20 Millions of Zimbabwe money to buy 1 Liter Milk. So as in AION.

  Pelaaja

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 261

 
2/08/10 4:09:58 AM#3

Hmm, you don't need to buy gold. You need to play the game of crafter (it includes gathering stupid amounts of materials, Kinah and certain amount of luck and disappointment).

To elaborate some of the process I went through when crafting the quest sword, here's numbers:

The 1st step where you have to craft Adamantium Sword (equals to the Orb you mentioned, I think) I got lucky and critted on 1st try. So, the cheaper one was easy for me.

Then to the hard part. NOTE: I didn't gather them all first and then craft. Crafts went on in patches of 5 or so.

20 Durable Orichalcum Sword crafts take 4444 Orichalcum Ore. Yes, I did gather them all myself and no I didn't bot. I had a good routine in Theobomos and I did the Platinum Coin quest at the same time (to break the boredom). This took me about 3 weeks.

In between and mostly after I had the Orichalcum Ore gathered I started gathering Aether. I levelled to 399 in the process of gathering 1560 Aether. Now the counter is at about a month. Give or take week or so.

Premium Weapon Fluxes are hard to drop and that's why I bought most of it. The amount needed was 120 (60-80kQ on our server a piece).

To refine the Orichalcum Ores, you need Active Carbon. 1 per Ingot, so I had to buy 4444 of those too. Then you have to make Orichalcum Rods that eat 4 Ingots and 2 Orichalcum Acid per Rod, the amount of Acid I had to buy was 1200.

As you can see, the amount of materials needed is really stupid. And if you don't crit the craft, the outcome is vendor trash. But the bright side is, the vending price is high enough to get back the Kinah you spent on the Active Carbon and Orichalcum Acid.

If you were lucky (like I was), you got some Noble Durable Orichalcum Swords to try and craft the needed Noble Worthy one.

To try one craft you need 6 Worthy Premium Weapon Fluxes, that cost 260-300kQ per one here. They are extremely hard to drop, so I resulted buying almost all of them (18 all together before success). Other materials for the craft were dropped while gathering Orichalcums and Aether, so I don't count them in at all.

I'll list tl;dr here about the materials needed in my case:

  • 4444 Orichalcum Ore (gatherable)
  • 4444 Active Carbon (from vendor)
  • 1200 Orichalcum Acid (from vendor)
  • 120 Premium Weapon Flux (drop, broker)
  • 1560 Aether (gatherable)
  • 18 Worthy Premium Weapon Flux (drop, broker)
  • 51 High-Grade Aether (gatherable)
  • 75 High-Grade Orichalcum Ore (gatherable)
  • 999999999 Units of PURE LUCK (individual skill ;))

Maybe you now understand why I was extremely happy for the achievement =)

  Sonoko

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Joined: 1/06/10
Posts: 37

2/08/10 5:29:06 AM#4

*decides to add up material cost for what Larry's doing for her own server*

44 Greater Catalyst = 137,060 (Using Larry's given figure)
136 Greater Elemental Stone = 66,640 (Broker price 470 each)
55 Aether Gem = 49,500 (Broker price 900 each)
6 Fine Weapon Flux = 150,000 (Broker price 25,000 each)

One attempt = 403,200

White vendor trash item "Blizzard Greatsword" sells to the NPC for 391,170 Kinah.
A single Boiling Balaur Blood Stain sells on the broker for 200,000-250,000 Kinah.
An hour and a half of farming platinum coins, at a rate of one run every 13 minutes as a Templar, getting no vendor trash drops aside from gray ones, selling coins on the broker for 17k each is a good 1,000,000 Kinah.

I can understand complaining about the double proc test that comes after, but really, that?  -_-

  Pelaaja

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 261

 
2/08/10 11:57:28 PM#5
Originally posted by thamighty213
Originally posted by Pelaaja

I finally got to level 50 (Elysean Assassin, Spatalos (EU)).

I also got my Expert Weaponsmith quest done, as I managed to craft Noble Worthy Durable Orichalcum Sword.

Crafting that piece was a pita and there was a lot of luck involved (first you have to crit Noble Durable Orichalcum Sword and then crit that Noble Worthy. But, so what. Been there done that :D

I also got the quest Project Drakanhammer done and now I have these beautiful wings (it's not me in the picture, it just shows the wings).

I was at the brink of quitting, because nothing seemed to work out and I was broke because of the Weaponsmith quest.

Now the game ENDS for me :)

Good day to ya all, Faith and Arms!

 

 

Fixed

 

now you realise you have done 50 levels and a awful weaponsmith grind for absolutely zero end game content other than horrible, laggy, turn off character model zerg fest's that NC try and pass off as PVP.

I don't know what "end-game content" means to you, but the glass is always half empty. Right?

The content I'm going into next is getting the Weaponsmith to 449, Miragent quest line, tailor expert quest -> tailor to 449, Dark Poeta, some odd PvP in Abyss, all stigma slots open and filled.... a good 6 or more months of playing.

There is content. For me at least.

EDIT: It might not be apparent, but to me in these games professions are a great part of the game. I don't even care if I ever craft anything worthy, I just want to max the profession.

  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 4030

2/09/10 12:15:20 AM#6
Originally posted by Pelaaja

I finally got to level 50 (Elysean Assassin, Spatalos (EU)).

I also got my Expert Weaponsmith quest done, as I managed to craft Noble Worthy Durable Orichalcum Sword.

Crafting that piece was a pita and there was a lot of luck involved (first you have to crit Noble Durable Orichalcum Sword and then crit that Noble Worthy. But, so what. Been there done that :D

I also got the quest Project Drakanhammer done and now I have these beautiful wings (it's not me in the picture, it just shows the wings).

I was at the brink of quitting, because nothing seemed to work out and I was broke because of the Weaponsmith quest.

Now the game starts again for me :)

Good day to ya all, Faith and Arms!

 

grats men reaching that level was a achievement by itself and then farming to get weapon outch

is it like at the start the receipe require a lower level noble then on the partern you need you hope noble proc and the hope for wortly or something like that!

hell i reached lvl 20 when i saw a pair of noble earing mat req need the previous noble lvl earing hell dont know if theres a trick for noble but me it procced very rarelly.lolton of regular to!

GRATS MEN ON YOUR ACHIEVEMENT !

I CAN SAFFELLY SAY YOU WILL RARELLY SEE YOUR CRAFTING ON OTHER PLAYER I THINK,being so rare and hard to proc!

  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 4030

2/09/10 12:21:40 AM#7

the trick for mat is when you go get quest etc do the 100 dayly quest thingy thats why its in the game to feel less like a grind so you do those quest get reward kinha and more importantly the mat you need or will need bank those rinse and repeat every 10 lvl you raise your crafting by 10 lvl !

http://www.aionarmory.com/recipe.aspx?id=155000186

so OP this is your next step for your weapon ?or you major in another crafting!

  Pelaaja

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 261

 
2/09/10 12:43:46 AM#8
Originally posted by drbaltazar

the trick for mat is when you go get quest etc do the 100 dayly quest thingy thats why its in the game to feel less like a grind so you do those quest get reward kinha and more importantly the mat you need or will need bank those rinse and repeat every 10 lvl you raise your crafting by 10 lvl !

http://www.aionarmory.com/recipe.aspx?id=155000186

so OP this is your next step for your weapon ?or you major in another crafting!

I told earlier I'll max Weaponsmith to 449, then Miragent-set, then Tailor expert.

My next step in weaponsmithing (after maxing it) is rather Noble Expert Durable Adamantium Sword, because for some odd reason they have decided not to put +atk speed into Orichalcum one. That Orichalcum could go with that Adamantium one, because like we all know +atk speed in weapons doesn't stack...

 

 

 

  joker007mo

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Joined: 8/08/09
Posts: 527

2/09/10 12:50:15 AM#9

yea dont think ill ever get that bored

  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 4030

2/09/10 12:51:44 AM#10
http://www.aionarmory.com/item.aspx?id=100900598Originally posted by Pelaaja
Originally posted by drbaltazar

the trick for mat is when you go get quest etc do the 100 dayly quest thingy thats why its in the game to feel less like a grind so you do those quest get reward kinha and more importantly the mat you need or will need bank those rinse and repeat every 10 lvl you raise your crafting by 10 lvl !

http://www.aionarmory.com/recipe.aspx?id=155000186

so OP this is your next step for your weapon ?or you major in another crafting!

I told earlier I'll max Weaponsmith to 449, then Miragent-set, then Tailor expert.

My next step in weaponsmithing (after maxing it) is rather Noble Expert Durable Adamantium Sword, because for some odd reason they have decided not to put +atk speed into Orichalcum one. That Orichalcum could go with that Adamantium one, because like we all know +atk speed in weapons doesn't stack...

 

 

 

http://www.aionarmory.com/item.aspx?id=100900598 isnt this the top sword for you they got 4 kind

at crafting 449

 

  Pelaaja

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 261

 
2/09/10 12:53:59 AM#11
Originally posted by joker007mo

yea dont think ill ever get that bored

Free advice: MW2

When MMOs get boring to me, I load up MW2 and shoot some. Great entertainment and no brainer, comes with good whining from opponents that feel they were wrongfully headshotted :D

  Pelaaja

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 261

 
2/09/10 1:00:16 AM#12
Originally posted by drbaltazar
http://www.aionarmory.com/item.aspx?id=100900598Originally posted by Pelaaja
Originally posted by drbaltazar

the trick for mat is when you go get quest etc do the 100 dayly quest thingy thats why its in the game to feel less like a grind so you do those quest get reward kinha and more importantly the mat you need or will need bank those rinse and repeat every 10 lvl you raise your crafting by 10 lvl !

http://www.aionarmory.com/recipe.aspx?id=155000186

so OP this is your next step for your weapon ?or you major in another crafting!

I told earlier I'll max Weaponsmith to 449, then Miragent-set, then Tailor expert.

My next step in weaponsmithing (after maxing it) is rather Noble Expert Durable Adamantium Sword, because for some odd reason they have decided not to put +atk speed into Orichalcum one. That Orichalcum could go with that Adamantium one, because like we all know +atk speed in weapons doesn't stack...

 

 

 

http://www.aionarmory.com/item.aspx?id=100900598 isnt this the top sword for you they got 4 kind

at crafting 449

 

Actually, no. Assassins don't use greatswords.

The top crafted sword I've found having +atk speed is Noble Dragon Lord Blade. It's Balic Craft and a bit too much for me right now :D

 

  joker007mo

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Joined: 8/08/09
Posts: 527

2/09/10 1:00:16 AM#13
Originally posted by Pelaaja
Originally posted by joker007mo

yea dont think ill ever get that bored

Free advice: MW2

When MMOs get boring to me, I load up MW2 and shoot some. Great entertainment and no brainer, comes with good whining from opponents that feel they were wrongfully headshotted :D

 

actually i go with swat 4 ut2k4 painkiller (not so much now ) point is if i ever find myself that bored ill just go watch tv or somethin

besides not big on fps games so rarely do i play them but i can always rely on ut

  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 4030

2/09/10 1:01:38 AM#14
Originally posted by Pelaaja
Originally posted by drbaltazar
http://www.aionarmory.com/item.aspx?id=100900598Originally posted by Pelaaja
Originally posted by drbaltazar

the trick for mat is when you go get quest etc do the 100 dayly quest thingy thats why its in the game to feel less like a grind so you do those quest get reward kinha and more importantly the mat you need or will need bank those rinse and repeat every 10 lvl you raise your crafting by 10 lvl !

http://www.aionarmory.com/recipe.aspx?id=155000186

so OP this is your next step for your weapon ?or you major in another crafting!

I told earlier I'll max Weaponsmith to 449, then Miragent-set, then Tailor expert.

My next step in weaponsmithing (after maxing it) is rather Noble Expert Durable Adamantium Sword, because for some odd reason they have decided not to put +atk speed into Orichalcum one. That Orichalcum could go with that Adamantium one, because like we all know +atk speed in weapons doesn't stack...

 

 

 

http://www.aionarmory.com/item.aspx?id=100900598 isnt this the top sword for you they got 4 kind

at crafting 449

 

Actually, no. Assassins don't use greatswords.

The top crafted sword I've found having +atk speed is Noble Dragon Lord Blade. It's Balic Craft and a bit too much for me right now :D

 

 

ho they got all i mentionned that one but they got 15 or 20 orange weapon(max item i think)

  thamighty213

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Joined: 9/17/06
Posts: 858

2/09/10 2:16:41 AM#15

duplicate

  thamighty213

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Posts: 858

2/09/10 2:23:42 AM#16
Originally posted by Pelaaja
Originally posted by thamighty213
Originally posted by Pelaaja

I finally got to level 50 (Elysean Assassin, Spatalos (EU)).

I also got my Expert Weaponsmith quest done, as I managed to craft Noble Worthy Durable Orichalcum Sword.

Crafting that piece was a pita and there was a lot of luck involved (first you have to crit Noble Durable Orichalcum Sword and then crit that Noble Worthy. But, so what. Been there done that :D

I also got the quest Project Drakanhammer done and now I have these beautiful wings (it's not me in the picture, it just shows the wings).

I was at the brink of quitting, because nothing seemed to work out and I was broke because of the Weaponsmith quest.

Now the game ENDS for me :)

Good day to ya all, Faith and Arms!

 

 

Fixed

 

now you realise you have done 50 levels and a awful weaponsmith grind for absolutely zero end game content other than horrible, laggy, turn off character model zerg fest's that NC try and pass off as PVP.

I don't know what "end-game content" means to you, but the glass is always half empty. Right?

The content I'm going into next is getting the Weaponsmith to 449, Miragent quest line, tailor expert quest -> tailor to 449, Dark Poeta, some odd PvP in Abyss, all stigma slots open and filled.... a good 6 or more months of playing.

There is content. For me at least.

EDIT: It might not be apparent, but to me in these games professions are a great part of the game. I don't even care if I ever craft anything worthy, I just want to max the profession.

I agree each to there own I just found that everything you mention is not actually fun but more so just more grinding and needed at that, I followed Aion from announcement in Korea and had high hopes for it mainly played it for the PVP and that is a absolute joke which was the big let down for me.

 

I enjoy crafting to a degree but to see them as actual content, I'm not so sure I guess content is in the eye of the beholder to me content means multiple different things to do that are interesting and not just rehashes of the same thing you have already done 9 billion times.

 

Now why that post got me a warning for trolling Im not too sure guess the mod is a fanboi :)

  Lathander81

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Joined: 2/06/09
Posts: 206

I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.

2/09/10 7:56:06 PM#17
Originally posted by Larry2298

I was trying to crit the Noble Durable Orb (lv299 crafting) but since I didn't buy gold from goldsellers, it seems impossible to continue crafting. The greater catalyst sold by NPC is 3,115 kinah, each craft needs 44 of them equals to 137,060 kinah. 40 Greater Wistone needs 80 Greater Elemental stone, 14 Greater Power Crystal = 56 Greater Elemental stone.

If you grind the material by yourself, you need to kill at least 156 mobs but the mob does not drop greater elemental stone every time, let's say every 5 kills you got one, it means you need to kill 780 mobs.

Then it needs Aether Gem (lv200 aether extract), 55 aether gem = 11 Big Vortex. OK, this part is easy, the most difficult one is obtain the Fine Weapon FLux, each craft needs 6 flux. The price each sell in Auction House is around 20,000 up to 50,000.

Everything listed above you could x 10 because no matter how lucky you are, you will never get crit at first time nor 3 times.

If you really grind all material for your crafting, you will be level 50 without doing any quest.

A few of my character never doing any quest just getting XP from crafting. I supposed you could XPing crafting up to level 45 without doing quest in this game. Pick up all crafts and level it up to 399 then just hold up the lv399 until you hit level 50. Voila. This game sux.

Most of my 20ish character still using lv7-9 armors and weapons because they are all leveling up in the crafting room. Just now, Sorcerer is my highest lv36, she has been leveled up from 30 all way to 36 and I will continue to level Sor up to lv 50 because there is no reason to grind mobs. Besides, the game has serious inflation problem same as Zimbabewe, you need 20 Millions of Zimbabwe money to buy 1 Liter Milk. So as in AION.


 

I think AIon is really a game fit for one character at a time. Trying to level crafting with all your characters may not be a good idea.  It will leave you broke.I leveled 5 chacacters to 30 and now I can use the daevion armor and weapons for all of them if I decide to level them further.  Also many of the quests have plenty of decent gear (including blue and golds) if you just do a little hard work.  Save your money for craft with one toon.

 I agree inflation is crazy but many people manage.  For example I have a friend who weapon crafts and I armorsmith.  So if he gets an armor flux he gives them to me and I do the same with weapon fluxes.  Instead of crying about the prices do something about it.

  Larry2298

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/27/05
Posts: 738

2/10/10 2:43:13 PM#18
Originally posted by Lathander81
Originally posted by Larry2298

I was trying to crit the Noble Durable Orb (lv299 crafting) but since I didn't buy gold from goldsellers, it seems impossible to continue crafting. The greater catalyst sold by NPC is 3,115 kinah, each craft needs 44 of them equals to 137,060 kinah. 40 Greater Wistone needs 80 Greater Elemental stone, 14 Greater Power Crystal = 56 Greater Elemental stone.

If you grind the material by yourself, you need to kill at least 156 mobs but the mob does not drop greater elemental stone every time, let's say every 5 kills you got one, it means you need to kill 780 mobs.

Then it needs Aether Gem (lv200 aether extract), 55 aether gem = 11 Big Vortex. OK, this part is easy, the most difficult one is obtain the Fine Weapon FLux, each craft needs 6 flux. The price each sell in Auction House is around 20,000 up to 50,000.

Everything listed above you could x 10 because no matter how lucky you are, you will never get crit at first time nor 3 times.

If you really grind all material for your crafting, you will be level 50 without doing any quest.

A few of my character never doing any quest just getting XP from crafting. I supposed you could XPing crafting up to level 45 without doing quest in this game. Pick up all crafts and level it up to 399 then just hold up the lv399 until you hit level 50. Voila. This game sux.

Most of my 20ish character still using lv7-9 armors and weapons because they are all leveling up in the crafting room. Just now, Sorcerer is my highest lv36, she has been leveled up from 30 all way to 36 and I will continue to level Sor up to lv 50 because there is no reason to grind mobs. Besides, the game has serious inflation problem same as Zimbabewe, you need 20 Millions of Zimbabwe money to buy 1 Liter Milk. So as in AION.


 

I think AIon is really a game fit for one character at a time. Trying to level crafting with all your characters may not be a good idea.  It will leave you broke.I leveled 5 chacacters to 30 and now I can use the daevion armor and weapons for all of them if I decide to level them further.  Also many of the quests have plenty of decent gear (including blue and golds) if you just do a little hard work.  Save your money for craft with one toon.

 I agree inflation is crazy but many people manage.  For example I have a friend who weapon crafts and I armorsmith.  So if he gets an armor flux he gives them to me and I do the same with weapon fluxes.  Instead of crying about the prices do something about it.


 

I am sorry to say that none of your opinions fall into my categories.

There is nothing wrong to level up all your characters as long as if you could afford it. My strategy is each character carry one profession so I have 6 characters for 6 professions, each character has same vitality/aether extract skills, as high as they reach. Each character will cover up each other, for example, when I need Aether Crystal then I will not use the one to do aether because there is no XP, instead I use the one to get XP.

When you reach 399, there is a big breakthrough time, as the OP just posted. My previous post about the Noble Durable Orb is just to buy the ticket to be Expert. There are further item needed, first is Noble Durable Proof Tome then Worthy Noble Durable Proof Tome. The trick in here is Worthy Noble Durable Proof Tome is a crit from Worthy Durable Proof Tome, and of course, the Noble Durable Proof Tome is a crit from Durable Proof Tome.

Now, Durable Proof Tome requires 65 Major Catalyst, each cost from NPC is 5,368 Kinah = 348,920 Kinah, and Premium Weapon Flux cost from AH each 90,000 up to 140,000. 6 needed, not to mention it requires a few hundred of Major Elemental Stone.

So, it means you are going to stop at this point 399 and grind through for all the materials and kinah to be an Expert crafter. There won't be any money to save. All you can do is just grind.

Anyway, there are two path in AION leads you to lv50, one is questing mixed with grinding, another is crafting.

Most people choose the first path then when they become higher level enough, they start to level up the other character.

I was choosing the 2nd path, crafting from the beginning to lv50, because I don't need to sit in front of the PC all time, this is definitely the most boring path. But I also have 7th and 8th character just for grinding and they have the best or least some suitable armors/weapons equipped, when I got bored, I will play the 7th or 8th character. But AION already a bored game, therefore, it doesnt matter if I questing or not.

I have a friend also on same server, but I won't give him pressure to grind the flux when I need it, vice versa, so AH seems the only choice if I got tired of grinding for flux.