CME has a lot of crap on it, don't get me wrong - but the claim that Jenson only works a couple days a week is ludicrous.  I have talked with employees - the guy is a workaholic and works 6 days a week (he doesn't work on Sunday if possible since he believes that is the Lord's day).  He is always working and any time day or night he will respond to a phone call or email within the hour.

Then were did the rumor come from that he is only in the office 2 days a week.

Who knows - where do all rumors come from.  I do know that on average CEO's are at their headquarters less than 50% of the time.  They are traveling to remote offices, to visit clients, customers, trade shows, etc.  I CEO that is always in the office is not doing his job.

If these people aren't to blame for this "fiasco" , who is?  I have been semi-following this game for a while now.  I just loved SG-1, until the Ori.  I actually own all seasons on DVD.  So, I was very interested in playing this game.  But....after reading a lot of negative press surrounding this game and the company, I decided to STOP following this game.  If the game ends up releasing and the reviews seem good, I might then try it.  As it stands now, it may not release, and if it does, it won't be the game I imagined it would be.  Only time will tell.

Also I know that CME has vendors across the country and it had offices in Boston and Los Angeles.  MGM is in Los Angeles, it has an engine provider in Australia - I think someone picked up on Jenson only being in Arizona two-three days each week and went wild with it.

To the OP, you want people to read your post, use paragraphs, they do have a function!

"Enter" is your friend!

Management,  the dev team, the economy, Whiting - they are all to blame - it just more complicated than saying it is just Jenson and Whiting - they all had a part in the screw-up - no doubt.

Originally posted by sgman7

Then were did the rumor come from that he is only in the office 2 days a week.

When Jensen started, he did not relocate to Arizona (maybe he never did relocate) and he was commuting weekly from CA to AZ, staying in a corporate apartment. He was only in the office a few days a week.

I'm sure it cost a boat load for all that travel and apartment rent! Just the kind of costs a start-up should incur.

While he might have been working 6 days a week, his focus was not on Stargate 100%. It was also divided among all the other studios, investments, and other companies.
 

What about this previous post by Kyriesunset:

“who cares what Gary does - this is a Stargate Worlds forum” We care! Gary & Crew had enough funds to finish Stargate. They made some bad investments with the original investor money and those mistakes continued or compound to where we are today.

“Jenson never did anything wrong” Okay, like the SEC loves to ruin people’s careers and keep them from running public companies just because their former employer didn’t want to pay severance? I’ll take what you’re smoking, along with the cool aid you’re drinking!

“Whiting has pissed off lots of people” Thanks for re-confirming that! Bet I see him flying back to Utah with body guards next time.

“It is just interesting that when funding wasn't a problem, then no one had concerns about Whiting” Oh yes they did! Many questioned all those bad investments made by Whiting & Crew. Seriously, does a software company need to invest in another Mexican restaurant in the Phoenix area? What about those Spanish movie kiosks? Not enough space to list them all.

“A few months ago, people were applauding what a great development team, Jenson had put together” Really? Who has been blowing smoke up your ass? I guess the proof will be in the putting when SGW comes out. We'll see how great they all are.

“More focus by everyone to work together and less finger pointing - less distractions” Not sure you can boss people around on these forums. They are not moderated like SGW. I suppose if CME just paid their employees, vendors and gave investors a good feeling about the game coming out, there would be no distractions.

Originally posted by Dkompoze

If after beta testing it,you still want it released ???? If your answer is yes, then you havent beta tested it.

If you can get a sample of this game thru beta testing, i dont think you would care whether or not it ever gets released.

 

TO OP ----- FYI---- VULTURES DONT ATTACK THEY SCAVENGE THINGS THAT ARE ALL READY DEAD---THE VULTURES KNOW ITS DEAD NOW THEY JUST PICK APART THE CORPSE OF A CRAPTASTIC GAME

So I wonder if it should be ok to say you beta tested it now.  I mean simply because beta shut down how many months ago?  Quite frankly I'll be suprised if another "beta stage" ever begins.

Or are you supposed to be under NDA forever for a test that may or may not ever start up again. 

Oh and yes its true Vultures pretty much eat things that are already dead.  Sharks would have probably been a better reference as they do "frenzy" over the scent of blood....

I think Kyriesunset had it right for the most part.  I am not sure where she got her facts regarding some bad investment - Whiting is involved in lots of companies - but none of the CME money went to anything but buidling games.  Regarding her SEC comments - if you've ever been involved in an IRS audit or other government action - yes they love to ruin peoples lives and they have no accountability for their actions.  CME did not invest in any Mexican restaurant or Spanish movie kiosks.  The forums are great places for people to let it all out - but don't base any life decisions on their accuracy.

How is CME different from Stargate?  Why is there a separation.

Don't know for sure, but I think the original strategy for CME was to raise a little of $100 million and open 10 studios - only one is building Stargate Worlds.  Stargate Worlds is the largest project and fundraising and development was going on schedule until mid-2008 when funding dried up and CME stopped adding studio and currently are only running three studios.

If funding is a problem, why don't they scrap everything and focus just on Stargate so they can at least get something out the door.

Larger investors are skeptical about investing in a one-product company, so CME has had more success fundraising with multiple products - that is how they raised the $40 million - they could have never done this for Stargate alone.

What is all this chat about MMOGULS - what is that?

Whiting is an entrepreneur - he has started up more than 20 businesses.  But from the track records - he is not a businessman.  MMOGULs is another one of Whiting start-ups.  He wanted to use a highly commissioned direct sales force or MLM (multi-level marketing company) to sell Stargate Worlds.  Jenson is not a fan of MLM's and didn't want to, so Whiting started a new company.  It is not affiliated with CME, but it is another Whiting company.  Separate from CME and its subsidiaries, Whiting probably still has over 15 other companies involved in software, real estate, social networking, coupons, etc. etc. - People often lump CME in with other Whiting companies - but there are separately owned and operated. 

Originally posted by orgill3

Don't know for sure, but I think the original strategy for CME was to raise a little of $100 million and open 10 studios - only one is building Stargate Worlds.  Stargate Worlds is the largest project and fundraising and development was going on schedule until mid-2008 when funding dried up and CME stopped adding studio and currently are only running three studios.

I'm looking at the original business plan for Stargate right now.  There is no mention of 10 stuidos anywhere!  

Oh lookie, I also have an updated plan dated January 2008, no mention of any other game or studio!   The figures needed to compete SGW are reasonable.   Seriously, if they shit canned the dead weight they could maybe still get SGW done and out the door. 

Perhaps the funding for the other studios couldnt happen unless they were lumped with Stargate?   I know I would rather invest in a known brand. 

I think the Stargate Worlds business plan is only about Stargate,  CME planned on opening other studio and building other games - I think the other studios and games have their own business plans. 

I think investors had the option of investing in just Stargate or in the parent company.  While I think the Stargate game was the biggest draw, most investors were looking to invest in a company with multiple games - that is why most invested in CME rather than directly into Stargate.