Finally, frustration is leading to honesty.

Mershu posts on the SGW forums that she is a wife of an unpaid employee. She does not offer any real proof but suggests we Google her forum handle and check ehr post history.

Mershu at MySpace (link)

Mershu on MMORPG.com (link)

Mershu at SGW (link)

As usual, tkksnow posts that the financial situation has not changed, which admits that she is telling the truth without explicitly saying it. He does not refute any of her claims, as a matter of fact. All he does is remind us that seeing threads discussing it is demoralizing and asks forum members to stop posting about it.

Then the unsual crowd comes in and starts latching on to--hell, I don't know what--part of his post and saying everything is fine and that the doomsayers need to go away. Meanwhile, some are accusing her of slander. If anyone still posts over there (I refuse to login into a site where the Community Manager routinely lines to consumers), I'd encourage you to remind everyone that slander requires someone to lie.

Originally posted by Pugla

I'd encourage you to remind everyone that slander requires someone to lie.

Never mind. 123Neva took care of setting the record straight on slander.

Also, I found a mershu post in Ten Ton Hammer forums. If this is a lie, it is an elaborate setup.

And before someone asks, the reason I care about this is because of the lies. If CME had been honest, if the company had not attacked anyone who blew the whistle on them, then I would not be so keen on the truth coming to light (whatever the truth is). The TTH I linked to is 180 posts of people attacking reporters for doing their jobs. Apparently their sources weren't so far off the mark.

I was going to edit my post in another thread, but since there's now a dedicated one...

CME has been pretty good (I think) at not deleting posts. But that one is flying off the rails, so I thought I'd quote her here for posterity's sake, just in case:

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Here is a dose of reality for you all. The developers have not been paid for nearly 90 days!! Seeing how this is the second time this has happened, it's more devastating as folks just don't have the means to hold on this long.

It's so bad, the Health Insurance premium wasn't paid and the policy is going to be cancelled back to the beginning of May. I've been trying to get a policy, but if it is retroactively cancelled, it makes coverage more difficult.

For the very few that are left, it is very logical that they would be updating their resumes and trying to get a paying job (anywhere) to help foot the bills.

So while you are all happy-go-lucky that this game is coming out, there is real suffering and much financial ruin for a lot of people surrounding this game and company. Laugh at that Khestral!

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Lets hope things work out, good luck Mershu :)

Originally posted by Zhiroc

I was going to edit my post in another thread, but since there's now a dedicated one...

CME has been pretty good (I think) at not deleting posts. But that one is flying off the rails, so I thought I'd quote her here for posterity's sake, just in case

Good call. bctrainers just closed it. Any time members get close to the truth...

That's why up to today I find it baffling how unprotected employees still are in the US. Just mind boggling!

Here in the EU employees are very well protected and have the right on salary by LAW!

That means, that if a company isn't paying out salary to it's employees, they have a serious problem and have the authorities on their doorstep in no time.

People have mortages to pay, bills to pay, kids to feed. Getting no salary is NO option!

Cheers

First I'd like to say that Mershu is hot, sorry had to say that because it's true! As for EU law and so forth I believe you'd still have to take your employer to a tribunal of some sort. There are laws concerning employee rights in the event of employer insolvency at work, but as tohow they take care of it as opposed to the U.S is a mystery to me.

I'm sure it's only becomes a problem once the worker puts his/her foot down and alerts the authorities, then no doubt there's a lengthy court system to go through to get paid. The best way for her husband to get paid would be to find another job, then they'd probably pay his back salary. As a guy with a job is able to take them to court, a guy without a job doing voluntary work for them isn't in that position so they string them along.

The responses to her post on the SGW don't suprise me, a few insane FanOri preaching their fire and brimstone bullshit because she spoke heresy concerning CME. It's pretty pathetic how all those FanOri are prepared suck CME man d**k and patrol the SGW forums like brown shirts marching on the Reichstag, all for free. Each one holding the ridiculous belief that everything will be fine and CME will get through this little rough patch and release THEIR wonderfull game. Whilst genuine people that have partners working there or are actual DEVs get slagged down for not adhereing to the FanOri dogma. They don't care about DEVs kids going hungry or wether they have their health insured, screw that. She's a liar her kids can go to hell because TKKsnow our venerable leader told us to ignore her, ZEIG HEIL, ZEIG HEIL, ZEIG HEIL!

Sorry, got a little carried away there didn't I? This is probably the same reason DEVs don't post on those forums anymore, could you trust yourself not to have a mad moment then hit the post button? No paycheck for months, distraught wife, kids with no health insurance and losing the roof over your head? I'd not be able to post anything as I couldn't trust myself not to say it how it is (if Gary Whiting is reading this it's called honesty, look it up in the dictionary) and set the forums a flame,  then have to suffer a long bitching from my boss. But since they're doing voluntary work I doubt CME would fire them, they probably just banned them from posting with their DEV accounts.

I pity you Mershu and your husband (despite having such a hot wife), he convinced his family to move a great distance with only the best intentions in mind. Now it's fallen apart due to bad company managment, his daughter has no health insurance and he may lose the house. Most men might not say everything they feel even to their wives (or especially in most cases), but he's blaming himself and taking full responsibility for this situation and it no doubt feels like he's carrying a massive weight everyday. If you want to make it easier for him, get a punch bag and put it up in a spare room with a picture of his boss on it. When you need to vent some anger over the situation put on the gloves and beat it whilst screaming all those things that piss you off about CME and this situation at the bag. It may seem silly but it might prevent you from doing the bitching at your husband, get him to do it and it might prevent him from being miserable about it around the home and creating tension. It also improves bedroom time .... so I've been told.

Take nothing to heart what the FanOri on the forums post, they're mostly basement dwellers that don't care about anything except playing SGW, pizza and down loading low standard accesible free porn. I hope this might help a little, BTW did I say you're hot?

Heh, those FanOri sound just like our famous relegious fanbois from Darkfall. :D

I know the SGW forums are bad, but the responce to Mershus post was appalling. Definitely that forums darkest hour.

Well in the US the labor laws vary a bit from state to state. It would also depend on whether the employees agreed voluntarly to continue to work without pay.

The best things a worker can do if thier company stops paying them are...

             1) Refuse to continue working without pay.

              2) Contact your state's employment office to find out your rights.....

                    a) At the very least, employees in such a situation may be eligible for unemployment benifits...which means some income coming in.

                     b) Depending upon the state... the employer MAY have to offer the employee COBRA to continue to thier Health Insurance benefits for a period of time. In my state, failure to do so (I believe) is a CRIMINAL not civil matter.

               3) Polish your resume and start looking for a new job at a reputable company.....it's the quickest way that you will get some income.

               4) Contact your counties Legal Aid office or check for resources in the area that do Pro Bono work. File suit against the company. If you've done ANY work for the company that you haven't agreed to do for free and the company has failed to pay you....you have grounds for a lawsuit. Don't delay on that...lawsuits take time to see results. If the company doesn't pay you what they owe... they can be FORCED into insolvency.... The Court can appoint an executer to oversee the liquidation of their assets....and the paying off of their debts. This isn't quick...but as an employee who is owed money this is often the best chance to get back what is owed you. You won't be dependant on the %#$#  executive that got the company into the mess it is in to get your pay... You'll be dependant upon a neutral court appointed executer who is charged with overseeing EVERYONES rights.

Note that with insolvencies there is a particular mandated order in which proceedes from liquidation must be paid....and it's very favorable to employees....

                         A) All owed back taxes must be paid first

                         B) All employees must be paid owed wages next.

                         C) All other creditors are paid 3rd

                         D) The principles of the company are paid LAST...from anything that is left-over.

As an employee, you should file litigation if a company doesn't pay you any wages they owe you at an agreed upon schedule. Even threatening to file litigation can some-times be enough to get an employer to pay you owed wages. Do NOT, under any circumstances accept stock or any other compensation in lieu of wages.... you'll be screwing yourself.

Well, Renfail started a new thread to address the way people mistreated mershu and how the moderators on the SGW condone abuse of anyone who does not blindly believe all is well. tkksnow locked it and said is was just flaming part 2. Further said that people are choosing to selectively read what CME says to support their own opinions. Nevertheless, tkksnow did NOT take the time to point out what parts were inaccurate. Just said to please stop talking about it because it hurts their feelings.

I loved how tkksnow posts that how dare the community feel that they care more about the product.

From a long standing community member, and command leader, that is an appalling statement.

Originally posted by marmz

I loved how tkksnow posts that how dare the community feel that they care more about the product.

From a long standing community member, and command leader, that is an appalling statement.

But so typical of the official forums, selective moderation of anything they personally take a dislike to whilst threads talking about pie and cookies or abusing non blind faith followers go on. Since CME have released no information in seven months now I wonder what they expect people to discuss on those forums exactly? CME is falling to pieces whilst crazy pyramid schemes and multiple court cases continue, salaries aren't being paid and people are asking where the $40 mil went and we're supposed to discuss ... speculation on Asgard armour? The moderators and DEVs that still post have become delusional and some have lost their slender grip on reality, the lights may be on but no one is home!

I'm surprised Agricola1, that you haven't found the information Mershu is referring to in her posts.

Mershu, I invite you to disclose.

Originally posted by marmz

I'm surprised Agricola1, that you haven't found the information Mershu is referring to in her posts.

Mershu, I invite you to disclose.

 

What info are you reffering to? Oh and Mershu has been banned from SGW official forums now, I guess that Khestral and TKKSnow think that she hasn't suffered enough already right?

Originally posted by Agricola1 

Mershu has been banned from SGW official forums now, I guess that Khestral and TKKSnow think that she hasn't suffered enough already right?

Wow. Banned for telling the truth, huh? Well, it is their forum. They can set whatever rules they want. The principles of free speech do not apply. Still, it is very telling.

So far, I had thought that the moderation on the forums, while tilted had not decended into the depths. I guess we're seeing them getting desperate.

The last step will be the deletion of threads. Then they will have sunk to the point of no return.

Wow, still not sure what to say about this. Apparently, I was banned for repeating what has been all over the web, and confirmed by CME, about employees not being paid. I have never shared anything confidential -- and nor would I ever (unless CME closes shop, days or years from now).

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