They should just make the game free 2 play with some kind of item shop.

Unfortunately this could be the best option to maintain this game, and i bet it would have alot of players that way.

Look at DDO Mythic.

This sounds like a perpetual hell.  I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

people have been crying to the same changes since the game has been out. If they would listen the game wouldn't be in such bad shape. Hell even AoC is managing a come back cause they started to listen to the players

I remember playing a Chosen in tier 1 when the game first launched.. it was fun as hell.. if you can do unlimted pvp in tier 1 and never level.. I think I'd sign up for that...*

Maybe I'm a little confused, but I dont understand how taking the free trial which has restrictions on it, which doesnt make sense in the first place, and then making it unlimited with restrictions is supposed to do anything at all.

During my original invite a biddy trial, I hit tier 2 before the 7 day trial was even over, so I'm not sure how locking people in tier 1 forever would really make anyone wish to sub further if they havnt already.

As stated before this game really should just drop to f2p with some sort of cash shop. While  I am normally avid against doom and gloom threads, this is one MMO that really does seem to be on its way out, and will only continue to do so as more and more anticipated MMO's come out.

This will be counter-productive.

A LOT of players only like T1. Now they won't have to pay to play.

God, Mythic is dumb.

It may make me trial it out again but when I subbed months ago my experience was probably the worst I have had.  However it was just a taste thing, graphics didn't appeal to me, combat didn't appeal, crafting was daft and I tried 3 servers and still found myself running around in a big empty world.  Friend of mine has been playing since launch and loves it.  however I think its more to do with playing alongside loads of RL mates and chatting in Vent.  Without the option to play in their time zone it was an instant killer for me and I didn't even last 2 weeks.  I may log in to see the improvements though and wonder if my hate for the game has diminished. 

Too many games coming up with real promise imo.  Earthrise, Jumpgate and a couple of others.  Besides FE is taking up all my time these days.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

This will be counter-productive.

A LOT of players only like T1. Now they won't have to pay to play.

God, Mythic is dumb.

I'd disagree with this statement.  According to the majority of complaints I've read, many players appear to have really enjoyed both T1 and T2, with interest fading through T3 and into T4, primarily as AoE and CC became both more prevalent and more powerful.  Both AoE abilities as CC abilities have been significantly reduced in power over the last two patches.

Lengthening the Free Trial, in conjuction with the New Player Journey which condenses the starting players in the Empire/Chaos zones, should give players some extended time to play with a higher concentration of other people.

It might help give an even better first impression of the game.

i went back for the 10 day thing the game felt dead you i saw one person in the game world questing did some scenarios which i had yo wait ages for so i chatted to friends online inbetween . This game does have a lot to offer but its not worth a subscription fee . Item shop is the only way forward with a free to play model . Either do that or close it .

I really enjoyed T1 PvP and PvE.

T2 was even better, but T1 was cool to.

Never got to T3+4.

Originally posted by Ruyn

This sounds like a perpetual hell.  I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

most non trolls would tell you that tier 1 is some of the most fun PVP around.

every update they've done in the past year, should have been done in the first 6 months of release (bar the Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx amount of live events they've had).

Maybe one of these days, they'll actually ADD content, rather than the poor excuse for the land of the dead. (after 1 year, that's all they've really added).

wiling to buy content, with every other MMO mentioning expansions (even Fallen Earth has mentioned on the horizon with Sector 5)

WAR is as always, left behind, even AoC is quietly mocking them... it's just wave after wave of patheticness, of course doesn't help with Mythic in charge of UO now, and of course some of their team at bioware.

i'd be surprised if there's anyone around who can design and create new content. Dead by next year.

Tier 1 is the best part of the game. Well, tier two is fun, too. After that... lol.

Originally posted by googajoob7

i went back for the 10 day thing the game felt dead you i saw one person in the game world questing did some scenarios which i had yo wait ages for so i chatted to friends online inbetween . This game does have a lot to offer but its not worth a subscription fee . Item shop is the only way forward with a free to play model . Either do that or close it .

This.

Every time I try to play it again, it feels like I'm playing on an unpopular private server that has like ten active players.

It's just sad.

its kinda like the others said, T1 is where the fun was at, T2...was ok, and by the time you hit T3 you were rerolling to find the fun again.

One of the few games that is fun out of the box, and the higher you get the less fun it is.

This will bring people in by the truck load...unfortunately its not going to make mythic any money...

This was bound to happen. *sigh* It really saddens me when a game of such scale, with so much effort put into it ends up with such a fate. This isn't the only game to take this path recently, but a few of them seem to be slowing crawling back out of hell. This option might be a step in the right direction , kinda like how Runescape has it set up. (A bit of free game play, but the real meat comes when you pay) From what I hear however, Tier 1 won't last nearly as long as they're expecting, and many will not be hooked by the crumbs they're being offered. Maybe I'm wrong, I never played the game, it's just I've this sort of scenario so many times, it's getting to be like a lottery:

To pre-order/buy, or not to pre-order/buy, that is the question.

This imo is an intelligent gaming model,i feel all developers should use that same approach.The problem is that most only look for answers when their game is failing,they need to step up and deliver from day 1,not when the game is struggling.

If the rest of the game was even better than T1 I could see where this move would be a really great idea...but..T1 is like...really fun..more fun than the complete chore the rest of the game becomes afterwards.  Sure you won't get all the gear or the awsome unlocks etc but...you get everything you need for some wild constantly fun PVP...maybe in the end enough people wil play it repeatedly over and over and enjoy T1 making it feel busy enough for some to consider subbing but...I find that hard to believe..the moment anyone hits T2 the game just goes down hill...

Its like in T1 you get offered the big slab of awsome chocolate cake..but by the time you reach T4 the most they've really given you is a tiny lil spoon full of plain vanilla ice cream that you had to literally sell your soul in order to get...and then its not even that great...especially since the City Sieges as far as I last heard (may be different now) are still borked / crappy and not worth the effort.

I agree T1 was my favorite part of the game! That was where all the good battles were and the areas were really fun,

I have to say with the 2 massive releases of AoC and WAR I do feel AoC is winning hands down.  First I lasted 6 months but more importantly, reading up on the changes in AoC actually makes me want to resub, even if its for a couple of months, however WAR hasn't done anything that makes me want to resub.  If I could play on the servers in Australia then I may test it out just to hang with my mates for a bit but beyond that... its just sad

Originally posted by Ruyn

This sounds like a perpetual hell.  I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Lol, that was mean, but I sorta thought the same. XD

Forever stuck in WAR tier 1. Muahaha. Kinda like Arkham Asylum. teh

I wish more games did this. Trials which are not time limited would address the demographic that doesn't play several hours a day.

Originally posted by ET3D

I wish more games did this. Trials which are not time limited would address the demographic that doesn't play several hours a day.

True. The idea is a good one.

I think the idea is pretty good, Ryzom had a same feature and it was great ( the Island of Silan was free ).

Yet again they fail, they restrict it to certain servers, so if you have a friend that you want to get into the game, you can't, because you are on the wrong server ...

They still have no clue.

Sounds like an opportunity to twink.

I can see it now. A million free accounts owning each others face in T1. Sounds like fun.

I used to hate item shops with a passion and refuse to play any game with them.

After what Turbine did with DDO though my outlook has changed.

WAR should deff take a look at thier model and take it on board. For me its the way to go with online games. That is have a totally free aspect to the game, have an online shop to buy some upgrades / content packs from and offer the full all bells-and-whistles paid sub.

The model has worked well for DDO and I really believe its the way foward. Offering the free aspect to get people hooked then giving them the option of either paying for the parts they want or a full sub to get it all gives the player the option to play the game the way that best suits them.

Of course the model works best in an older game that can basically be "cut-up" in order to offer something in its cash shop, for WAR I'd guess that would currently be the added classes (Chopper, slayer, kotbs and deathknight class - I forget the name) and the additional content added. Hell they could even allow you to "buy" access to the more popular Scenerio's from cash shop while leaving a "free" one from each tier for all. They have the special event Sc's as well that they could offer, the Foundary one was one of my personal favs.

Maby they will look at this model in future and I may give the game a whirl again .. be nice to dust off my Ironbreaker and Kotbs to see whats happening in WAR.

 Lol! Unless they make you reroll at level 11 every time this is exactly what I wanted from day 1. /xpoff twink to my hearts desire. I would play this game for nothing but nordenwatch! If they are smart, this plan will actually bring in a ton of paying customers in the long run. Lets say they have finally wizened up and they have plans in the works to make t3 and t4 not a load of garbage. It would make sense to have a slew of people already in the game to try and entice to pay again rather than trying to convince people who have already moved on to do so.  Turbine found out that they could get a lot more money into their pockets by letting people in for free, then letting them decide when it was time to pay for play. 

I hope they will do this becuse it sounds fun and I will install warhammer (ce ofc) once again to try to get my noble elf past level 5 :) 

I was about to write a lot of things - probably a wall text.. I'm a big fan of the IP, RPG from TT ...

Unfortunately, I will just resume to this: I left the game.




P.S. - I bought the whole CE - 80€ of it - currently not in mogwai asian Aion and never even been to cartonish lovely WoW.

My sub for WAR just ran out and I will not renew.  Simply because Mythic has been making all the wrong choises in improving the game.   Apprentice system ?  Possibly one of the worst ideas ever for this game.  Doesn't work in RVR - Pointless in very badly implemented PVE content.  

I know what higher tiers bring and I have no intrest in playing those.  Tiers 1 and 2 are good fun.  Tier 3 is a total nightmare since there is usually only one faction dominating - litterally forcing the other faction to quit - causing even more unbalance.

I still like WAR and I have already make alot of trials account just to enjoy T1.  It can be played pretty much like FPS and can be quite enjoyable.  But I doubt it will get anyone to pay sub or even buy the game.  For that the higher tiers are just to unbalanced and Mythic is taking all the wrong choises to balance it.

See you in unlimited tier 1 !!!

No money for you Mythic

I had the most fun in Tier 1. I would only play it if the scenario for Tier 1 is available. This game is not worth a monthly sub.

Originally posted by ChrisChan

Wow I would not play this game again if it was free and it came with all the Tea in China or all the hot asian babes who bought the Tea to me. If your not a poor scrub just pay for a good free 2 play game and dont give these guys the time of day.

Toss in hot asian babes and I''ll play Darkfall

Play the best part of the game for free, forever!  That's kind of cool, because Tier 1 was the only thing good about that game and now it's free haha.

T1 was the most fun pvp this game has to offer. I played to t4 on 4 characters before quitting out of boredom.

i installed and 'used' my 10 free days, 1 night later, i uninstalled... blah

tier 1 for free though!??! i love it, nordenwatch was the most fun out of the entire game lol

T1 was indeed alot of fun, but get rid of the bloody mirror classes and add in something thats unique to each side, it's so god damn boring to come up against your alt on the other side, it adds nothing to the game and shows a total lack of creativity on Mythics part.

If they resolved the classes I'd come back, plus flesh out the PvE experience alot lot more aswell.

Oh and perhaps go with the original idea of more than just 2 factions fighting, that would have created alot more interesting battles than your standard WoW faction fights, even WoW could do with a 3rd waring faction to liven theings up in PvP.

Originally posted by quitmoaning

T1 was indeed alot of fun, but get rid of the bloody mirror classes and add in something thats unique to each side, it's so god damn boring to come up against your alt on the other side, it adds nothing to the game and shows a total lack of creativity on Mythics part.

If they resolved the classes I'd come back, plus flesh out the PvE experience alot lot more aswell.

Oh and perhaps go with the original idea of more than just 2 factions fighting, that would have created alot more interesting battles than your standard WoW faction fights, even WoW could do with a 3rd waring faction to liven theings up in PvP.

 

 

You point out a decent criticism of the game, but you have to also consider the I.P.. Being based on the miniatures is the main reason behind such design, just as the shallow options in diverse looks per class. A witchhunter is a witchhunter so on and so forth.

It would be nice to have more options as is the norm in mmo gaming, however you have to stick to the roots of the i.p. you are drawing from. Mutilating the rules of WH, would be for the worst IMO.

Originally posted by tryklon

 They should just make the game free 2 play with some kind of item shop.

Unfortunately this could be the best option to maintain this game, and i bet it would have alot of players that way.

Look at DDO Mythic.

DDO is effectively a game that has had 6-7 years of development to refine its mistakes and overall gameplay.  The result is still a game that most people do not consider worthy of a subscription fee or retail purchase.  Giving the game away for free is what the game needed to get a revival of some unknown nature.  No one really knows if it has had a successful result yet. 

Sadly mythic has only had about 1/2 of the time DDO has had to refine its gameplay and even making the game free might not have a beneficial effect on mythics revenues which is the desired effect.  Not to mention a cash shop would be difficult to work into a game that was designed to reward players for conquest, pvp and interaction with the game. 

A cash shop would most likely compete with that and have a negative effect on the gameplay overall.

This looks to be a pretty smart move by mythic.

Keeping the low level area populated will give a good first impression.  Removing the 10 day limit encourages people to play as long as they like.  If they play a class for 7 days, many might not try another class if they only have 3 days left.  The hope being that eventually a player will find a class they fall in love with and sign up for the game.  The more classes people play and the longer they play I would think odds would go up they find something they enjoy.

I'm not sure this will change the T2-T4 experience where the problems of the game really kick in.

Every time one of my characters was getting close to level 12, I'd get sad because I was having so much fun in Tier 1 RvR and didn't want to leave it. Tier 2 had it's moments, but was decidedly less fun, and tier 3 is just more of the same, a chore.

So this is great, I can make a free trial account, and stay in Tier 1 as long as I please. Get every single character class to level 11 and own face with them. Get those hard to find helms and shoulders with sockets. Do PQs and get the other pairings Influence rewards without worrying about leveling out of the best part of the game.

I don't see how this helps Mythic, but I'm sure a number of players will enjoy this.

Originally posted by mjkittredge

Every time one of my characters was getting close to level 12, I'd get sad because I was having so much fun in Tier 1 RvR and didn't want to leave it.

Yep I wished there was a way to simply turn off xp, and stick around in t1a little longer. I guess I won't even have to pay a sub to do that now lol.

I actually think this is a bad move tbh, I'd actually prefer to play war over bf2. Now that I can whenever for free in the most interesting and intense part of the game. Whats the point in paying for a sub? Hell, half of those that are in t4 simply roll alts just to keep playing in t1.

This could actually hurt them more than help them imo.

Originally posted by Malickie

 Yep I wished there was a way to simply turn off xp, and stick around in t1a little longer. I guess I won't even have to pay a sub to do that now lol.

I actually think this is a bad move tbh, I'd actually prefer to play war over bf2. Now that I can whenever for free in the most interesting and intense part of the game. Whats the point in paying for a sub? Hell, half of those that are in t4 simply roll alts just to keep playing in t1.

This could actually hurt them more than help them imo.

Agreed.

I also hope they allow the unlimited trial accounts on open pvp servers. I had so much fun ganking with t1 witch elf. endless free entertainment! Woot!

I think that turbine model can work for Warhammer well but it means redeveloping the game (what means time and money).

I don't know how many ppl play War but during my trial I saw 2 (I left cause of this after 3 days),  so I think that their playerbase is

rather small in compare to other  p2p games. I also don't know how many subscribers are needed to keep the game live but I

think that no company will allow long term money looses. If War really went f2p (with some cash shop) it would be interesting,

roumors say that Turbine is preaparing LOTRO as f2p game. if it really happens WoW will loose some players (not many imo)

but such games as Alganon etc will be just crushed ...

T1 forever?  Sign me up.

Originally posted by jawali

roumors say that Turbine is preaparing LOTRO as f2p game. if it really happens WoW will loose some players (not many imo)

And what rumors are those? Rumors that you, yourself, are starting?  I call B.S.

Originally posted by ghettobooste

Originally posted by jawali

roumors say that Turbine is preaparing LOTRO as f2p game. if it really happens WoW will loose some players (not many imo)

 

And what rumors are those? Rumors that you, yourself, are starting?  I call B.S.

Yea I am sorry to jump of topic with this post but I also call B.S. I really believe LOTRO is doing pretty well for itself and turning a profit for Turbine. I mean. . . I play it on the occasion and there are always a very good amount of people on.

Well, check this and I can tell you that this  rumor is not created by me...

http://news.mmosite.com/content/2009-10-18/20091018233654564.shtml

 One more time I will mention my suggestion, I played WAR from the day it released (and even beta before) and eventually gave up on it. Came back again under the 10-day trial and new patch, left again. The one thing this game has going for it is PvP. Scenarios to be exact. The real tabletop game is based on skirmishes and battles, so should the MMO. The PvE and RvR stuff was pretty lame, but the scenario are amazing.

I don't need free, but reduce the price to $5.99/mo. and make it all Scenarios. Everyone has all spells and items available and you get so many points to build your char up just like the game. It becomes all about strategy and not gear/level, which is what Warhammer players want. I know myself and tons of others who would come back for this.

This T1 concept is almost there, but they are still missing the big picture. I keep posting this in the hopes it actually reaches the eyes of someone who can make it happen. I currently play a private battleground-only WoW server just because it is as close to this concept as possible.

Originally posted by Apham

Originally posted by ghettobooste

Originally posted by jawali

roumors say that Turbine is preaparing LOTRO as f2p game. if it really happens WoW will loose some players (not many imo)

 

And what rumors are those? Rumors that you, yourself, are starting?  I call B.S.

 

Yea I am sorry to jump of topic with this post but I also call B.S. I really believe LOTRO is doing pretty well for itself and turning a profit for Turbine. I mean. . . I play it on the occasion and there are always a very good amount of people on.

It's true, there is an interview with Steefel I linked a few times where he said he would like to go F2P. If you look through my post history (lol) you will eventually find the article.

IMHO, DDO was the test bed for this

I don't know if they are actually going to do it but they have talked pretty openly about the possibility.

My main is 40/40 which T4 overall is pretty uncompelling but I gotta say I do love T1. RR not matching up with regular ranks makes it sorta goofy and I wasn't digging it. I was working on collecting a conqueror set but it's never ending arms race you can never get ahead in.

I just canceled my sub but I might still jump in with this.

Wow, this is all pretty interesting. My first reaction to the unlimited trial period on Tier 1 was negative, it just seems like a death reflex to me. However, until a few days ago I had not played WAR, but decided to download the trial and give it whirl(as a former WOW player, I suppose I'm looking for some shiny new alternative). I wasn't blown away or anything, the graphics are good, but not mind blowing, and the concept is pretty straight forward, but in the past couple of days I have to admit at enjoying what I've seen so far(more so than LOTR, in which I'm also trying the demo). I'm a big fan and player of the tabletop game of Warhammer and I feel the online implementation was done pretty well. Of course I can't speak for the higher level content as many of you have, and in reading through this thread there does seem to be some definite agreement on the problems of higher level content; however, I would like to point out--and I don't believe anyone else has on this thread--that all popular mmo's have similar open, and long running discussions on the virtues and massive failures of one or more aspects of the game in question, whether it be high level content, instancing, class balancing, or what have you.

I've played several mmo's over the years, from Ultima Online, to Everquest(1 and 2), to AO, Ryzom, all across the board, and this trend of  games going from a subscription model to free to play always strikes me as a red flag and the beginning of the end. Games that start out small, and free are another story, and some of them grow up to become full fledged paying games, some remain free. Free to play games always have a different feel to me, not bad, just different; some of them are the result of a lot of hard work by a few dedicated individuals. That shows and is appreciated. Games with subscription content are, in theory, supposed to represent a level playing field; anyone who's playing can, again in theory, accomplish whatever they want, reach any level they want, obtain any piece of equipment, and so on because everybody's paying the same dollar; everyone can reasonably expect the same relative game play experience. That's what you're paying for. But you take that away and start giving it out for free? To state the obvious, what level, and kind of support or new content can a player expect then?

I've said all that to say this: I feel this is just a way for a company to quietly walk away from a product they are no longer willing to invest resources in because it simply did not add to the bottom line. And that is very disappointing.

Originally posted by beaker74

I've said all that to say this: I feel this is just a way for a company to quietly walk away from a product they are no longer willing to invest resources in because it simply did not add to the bottom line. And that is very disappointing.

 

I don't think it is exaggeration to say that there are hundreds of thousands of players who were disappointed by how this game turned out. What a waste.

well at least now I get why the apprentice system lets you raise your freinds level instead of being able to drop levels to play with your friends, now if you want to play with your higher level freinds, you got to pay.

The whole idea is absurd given you can repeatedly create new characters by signing up for the 10 day free trial.  All you need is a new email address.  This works for any game btw with a limited free trial.

Myself and a few co-workers repeatedly did the trial after it was used up for over a month just playing tier 1 and enjoying it.

It will attract more people to the game, worked for DDO.  Only problem is they will probably tune the game to make it more appealing in tier 1 hoping to lure people in to a subscription.

I must admit, before release this game enticed me, however i was currently busy and held back from buying the game, after a month i read all the feedbacks on teh game, not just here but several places, and all were dissapointed. I then decided to leave it alone for a few mths and then get a proper player feedback report.

Must admit, i am darn glad i did, as it became obvious that the game was a failure, not long later over 50% (think it was more like 70%) of the servers were shut down and current player base's were merged. Now you are having this. Hmm i might go and take a look, but as whats already been mentioned, some people would like item shops introduced, do that and im sure several current players will leave, or it will go the same way as TR did and cease (though that one only lasted 1yr) and i still see it in some computer shops for sale LOL

looking for Tier 1 PvP team. I can use vent.

does this mean that my account, already finished with the 10-day trial, will be able to play WAR again soon? It was a fun game, and I'm totally fine with stayin' in T1.

this is great, now i'll not only be able to play the best lvls for free forever, but i'll also not have to worry about getting higher than level 10 where the game starts to get bad.

Played the game for a few months, but nothing was as fun as Tier 1.  Definitely will keep this on my computer for the occassional fast paced PvP contests.  Now if only they had been able to carry that fun through the rest of the game.

Pheonix Gate from T2 was totally the best SC.

But unlimited T1 would definitely be pretty incredible.

Mythic needs to drop WHO and make Daoc 2 already. Daoc 2 is a no brainer!

There is now talk that Mythic will move the restiction in lvls abit higher (11 - 15) and that way prevent T1 to be dominated by twinks.  That might be a good move - but at the same time it will still not prevent ppl from rerolling to play T1 - and create Twinks that are fed by gold from T2 trial characters.

great now all the whiners will play the game again...

actually dont know what most of you are talking about.. i have played since launch and the changes they have made to the game has changed this game very much.

T4 is where all the population is... if you did trial and found 2 people thats because all the poeple are in T4 not t1... thats why

cant believe people are complaining about content in an advertised PVP game.  whats even funnier is you believe LOTD is the only dungeon they have added...

goes to show you what great lengths whiners will go to

this game has TONS and i do mean tons of dungeons.  including a good one just for T1.

but really who cares about PVE in a PVP game.  that is where this game shines...

if you played daoc then you would know that mythics endgame is RVR... fighting the other faction.. taking keeps.. .in this game same thing... and a city siege...

thats the end game... what did you expect?

hell as advertised... there is no dancing there is no dueling.. .just get out there and fight the enemy realm... this is WAR....

you turds make me laugh...

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Originally posted by googajoob7
i went back for the 10 day thing the game felt dead you i saw one person in the game world questing did some scenarios which i had yo wait ages for so i chatted to friends online inbetween . This game does have a lot to offer but its not worth a subscription fee . Item shop is the only way forward with a free to play model . Either do that or close it .

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I don't know what server you played on or during what hours... but T1 is NEVER empty on my server... I get senarios as early as 7 in the morning and while I'm not usually up late I'v been in senarios as late as 03.00. and the same thing goes for oRvR, if you run out into the empite T1 rvr-zone you will find somone to fight at almost any hour.

if you hae troube finding people to play with, you can easely type /1 and ask if anyone is interested in joining you. OR hit L and start an Open party that people can join.

Originally posted by willvas

great now all the whiners will play the game again...

actually dont know what most of you are talking about.. i have played since launch and the changes they have made to the game has changed this game very much.

T4 is where all the population is... if you did trial and found 2 people thats because all the poeple are in T4 not t1... thats why

cant believe people are complaining about content in an advertised PVP game.  whats even funnier is you believe LOTD is the only dungeon they have added...

goes to show you what great lengths whiners will go to

this game has TONS and i do mean tons of dungeons.  including a good one just for T1.

but really who cares about PVE in a PVP game.  that is where this game shines...

if you played daoc then you would know that mythics endgame is RVR... fighting the other faction.. taking keeps.. .in this game same thing... and a city siege...

thats the end game... what did you expect?

hell as advertised... there is no dancing there is no dueling.. .just get out there and fight the enemy realm... this is WAR....

you turds make me laugh...

 

If most of players are in tier 4 it means there are few new players...Launch WoW, LOTRO and tell me why starting

towns are not so empty as Warhammers...If most people complain about this game and you call them whiners and

flame them it only means you are jus lol fanboy, who doesn't allow that his favourite game is criticized by anyone...

Go grow up

... people just like to bash this game that's all... :)

Originally posted by jawali

Originally posted by willvas

great now all the whiners will play the game again...

actually dont know what most of you are talking about.. i have played since launch and the changes they have made to the game has changed this game very much.

T4 is where all the population is... if you did trial and found 2 people thats because all the poeple are in T4 not t1... thats why

cant believe people are complaining about content in an advertised PVP game.  whats even funnier is you believe LOTD is the only dungeon they have added...

goes to show you what great lengths whiners will go to

this game has TONS and i do mean tons of dungeons.  including a good one just for T1.

but really who cares about PVE in a PVP game.  that is where this game shines...

if you played daoc then you would know that mythics endgame is RVR... fighting the other faction.. taking keeps.. .in this game same thing... and a city siege...

thats the end game... what did you expect?

hell as advertised... there is no dancing there is no dueling.. .just get out there and fight the enemy realm... this is WAR....

you turds make me laugh...

 

 

LOL awwww did i hurt your pooor feelings... yeah im gonna call you and many here a turd because your complaints about the game are wrong.. NO CONTENT? yeah right.. there is tons... AOE and CC... LOL been addressed... anything else you guys like to complain about...

laggy.. BEEN ADDRESSED... all of them fixed...

yet same whiners complaining same stuff... and all their whines have been fixed.. yet still bashing WAR... so it is you who needs to get the chip off the shoulder and leave the game already alone... dont like it fine.. but stop trashing garbagge about the game you have no clue about.

TURD..

and ill grow up with my comments when you losers stop doing yours
 

Originally posted by Frobner

There is now talk that Mythic will move the restiction in lvls abit higher (11 - 15) and that way prevent T1 to be dominated by twinks.  That might be a good move - but at the same time it will still not prevent ppl from rerolling to play T1 - and create Twinks that are fed by gold from T2 trial characters.

That's disappointing to hear.  I was looking forward to having a perpetual T1 battleground.  I hope this rumor is incorrect and the free trial will be capped at T1 and not allow you to go above that.

I don't suppose that you can hurt anyones feelings, there are always people who will defend even biggest crap..

I don't say Warhammer is crappy game but if many people cancelled subscriptions it means something is wrong, if the starting

towns are empty it means there are few new players. Am I wrong with it?...Your post is just flame...

Originally posted by jawali

I don't suppose that you can hurt anyones feelings, there are always people who will defend even biggest crap..

I don't say Warhammer is crappy game but if many people cancelled subscriptions it means something is wrong, if the starting

towns are empty it means there are few new players. Am I wrong with it?...Your post is just flame...

see wrong again... trial is on gorfang and T1 is nonstop there...  so i dont know what you are talking about.. to me its lies what you guys say...

in fact they have mods who hang out in t1 on gorfang.  if you are talking about other servers where your account is sure... it can be dead in pvp area... lots of t4 guys who want a break from pvp go down and start doing t1 over again. but then again... why when t4 is where its at...

and your justification of why so many left is same reasons i hear here.  impatient people who didnt want to wait for fixes... have WOW to thank for bringing in the masses of horrible gamers into the MMO community. 

so far lots have started resubbing to WAR and are having lots of fun.

people claimed they were bored at T4... with a PVP game.. LOL... daoc players saying it too... yet went right back to daoc to do the same thing... PVP...

people expected more then what WAR offered.. thats why.... mythic has given us what they said they were going to give us.. others wanted more...

a poster on here wanted more content... lol i havent even touched the tip of the iceberg on my shaman yet and he is rank 40 renown rank 48

so again.. if you didnt like the game then go leave warhammer alone... but dont go spreading lies about it... you dont know how the game is in its current state.  all you know is that on a non designated trial server that the lower tiers are not very populated...

guess what ace.. thats on gorfang... dont beleive me... LOG IN.

till then you guys dont say anything about a game.. its not the same as it was since launch

All this talk of limited T1 free play has made want to give WAR a shot.  When  is this program going to start?

Originally posted by willvas 

and your justification of why so many left is same reasons i hear here.  impatient people who didnt want to wait for fixes... have WOW to thank for bringing in the masses of horrible gamers into the MMO community. 

Just how long are people supposed to wait for a game to get fixed?  

Ok, the game has been out for over a year now and it still is not fixed.  When can we stop blaming players and put the blame on developers who deserve it?  People do not want to mindlessly hand over money on the slim hopes that "the next patch will fix everything".  Those days are dead and in my opinion could not happen fast enough.  

Why people still defend developers for not doing their job is beyond me.  If mythic wanted the 2-3 million subscribers they were expecting, then they should have tested their game a lot more.  They should have resolved the massive issues the game had.  The mentality that a company can push any piece of shit to market and people will not only buy it, but fund the final stages of development are over.  There is no longer a need to wait for a game to MAYBE get good or MAYBE fix massive issues.  Most of which people are smart enough to see they cannot be fixed without a massive overhaul. 

Warhammer wasn't a game with a few bugs that needed fixing, it was poorly designed and poorly executed on many levels.  It is not the responsibility of players to pay for the privilege of waiting.  In fact you are displaying the exact mentality that allows companies to get away with this shit and harm the genre. 

You have no one to blame but mythic.  It is their fault the game crashed and burned, not some other segment of "bad gamers".  Over a million people gave it a chance, many have given it multiple chances.  The results are directly related to the efforts of the developers.