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WAR (Warhammer Online) Forum » General Discussion » Tangential: But EA can lose IP rights.

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  tiefighter25

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OP  12/07/12 3:52:05 AM#1

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-12-06-total-war-dev-announces-multi-game-warhammer-deal

 

EA has lost the rights to Game Workshop's Wathammer Fantasy license to SEGA / Creative Assembly. (Total War franchise)

The future of Warhammer Onlne: Reckoning and Warhammer: Wrath of Heroes is unknown.

THQ/Relic retain the rights to the Warhammer 40k IP.

Just food for thought.

  tiefighter25

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OP  12/07/12 4:10:37 AM#2

Just to make things more confusing, EA"s Warhammer titles are part of Bioware in the form of Bioware/Mythic.

EA merged Mythic into Bioware, which brought the Warhammer title (and later MOBA) with them.  BUT...

Recently EA decided to seperate Mythic back out from Bioware, but many of the details have yet to be sorted out.

You can find the Warhammer forums on the Bioware Social Network, but the game now relisted as a Mythic game on the new Mythic Entertainment website.

As many of you know, both Jeff Hickman and Gabe Amatangelo came from Mythic.

It was also rumored that as SWTOR approached launch date, Bioware poached most of Mythic to attempt to bolster SWTOR's PVP play. (Also rumored that the DRagon Age 3 team was poached to assist development of patches 1.1-1.6 and beyond before being sent back to worj on DA3).

I'm a freaking font of trivial knowledge.

  karmath

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12/07/12 4:17:33 AM#3
The more IP's pulled from EAMythicWare, the less new IP's are butchered hopefully.
  Scalpless

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12/07/12 4:22:14 AM#4
I don't care about the licence, but Warhammer: Total War sounds delicious.
  ShakyMo

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12/07/12 4:29:55 AM#5
Gabe amangetello came from ea actually, they moved him from ea to mythic during the take over.

Paul barnet is another post ea person.

I don't count either as "real mythic"

Hickman was at mythic pre ea - AS A COMMUNITY MANAGER. He must have been really good at climbing the greasy corporate pole though as ea put him in charge of war.
  User Deleted
12/07/12 4:35:12 AM#6

Im glad thq/relic keeps theyr license, i love their version of warhammer 40k. Its a game i go back to now and then on a regular basis. Hope they make a new one soon.

Ea for me is not a loss that they lost theyr license, war wasnt to bad in what it tried to achive but it was to shallow mmorpg to be worthy of a sub. If it was b2p with cash shop i would probably stil play it on a regular basis.

I might be alone here but i demand alot more from sub games then i do from other games, it needs to entertain me for an insane amount of hour to be worth the sub.

Im a fan of total war games and it will be intersting to see what creative does with the ip, its a little out there from their other  games but i enjoy all of em so ill probably buy this when its ready.

  Torgrim

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12/07/12 7:00:41 AM#7
Originally posted by Scalpless
I don't care about the licence, but Warhammer: Total War sounds delicious.

 

Yeah that sounds awesome indeed.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  grimal

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12/07/12 7:37:01 AM#8
Shouldn't this be in the WAR forums instead?

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  gervaise1

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12/07/12 7:56:00 AM#9

Various possibilities:

It seems to be a multi-platform deal - not necessarily an exclusive deal. Another write up here: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/182995/Total_Wars_Creative_Assembly_gets_the_Warhammer_license.php

 

However it could also mean that EA have decided NOT to extend the IP, or didn't want to pay what GW asked or they simply weren't given the option. I am assuming that EA has at least 5 years - launched in 2008 and still running. 5 years would be to c. Sept '13. Beyond 5 years I suspect a new deal would have been needed.

And given that it will take CA time to develop a title .... maybe it is exclusive and WAR's time is limited. If so I would expect an announcement by March as was done by SOE with SWG. Maybe. As mentioned though multi-platform doesn't necessarily mean exclusive - have to see how things play out / if anything else is said.

  ShakyMo

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12/07/12 7:57:38 AM#10
Also the deal was signed with mythic not ea.and the people who signed the deal are no longer at ea or mythic.
  Gorwe

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12/07/12 3:24:26 PM#11
Who said anything about Mythic/EA?

They have MMORPG license.
Creative Assembly has Strategy license.

2 whole different things(and yes, I am sure they are, because laws/deals/jurisdiction is written in such obnoxiously meticulous ways).

Not that they deserve license(EA), but still...

  Mmocount

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12/07/12 5:25:21 PM#12
Originally posted by Gorwe
Who said anything about Mythic/EA?

They have MMORPG license.
Creative Assembly has Strategy license.

2 whole different things(and yes, I am sure they are, because laws/deals/jurisdiction is written in such obnoxiously meticulous ways).

Not that they deserve license(EA), but still...

 

The newsarticle I just read seems to state this is exactly the license EA had, and that now just two companies have Licenses for Warhammer. THQ and Creative Assembly. I guess we'll see.
  Gorwe

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12/07/12 6:08:29 PM#13
So, there can be only one Company per franchise? That seems...stiff I guess.

Also, it could be misinterpretation on the newsletter side.

If it indeed is true, then we, the WHF:RP-ers, got shafted(again). Not that I want to look gifted horse in the teeth, but still... Some love for WHF:RP, eh GW?

Plus why is everyone forgetting that Namco had(still has-idk) the rights to publish Warhammer games? Mark of Chaos is their title, after all(unless they sold their license to EA-idk how GW would react tho). I think that license got shafted and not EA's(sadly, not that they were doing anything with it-but I guess it's leagues better than slandering/making mockery out of IP)...

  Crazy_Stick

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12/07/12 6:33:52 PM#14
I accidentally posted here instead of the thead I meant to...
  tiefighter25

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OP  12/07/12 6:44:55 PM#15
Originally posted by grimal
Shouldn't this be in the WAR forums instead?

Maybe you should be a moderator.

This thread has been banished to the WAR subforum.

Congrats.

  Mmocount

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12/08/12 2:50:12 AM#16
Originally posted by Gorwe
So, there can be only one Company per franchise? That seems...stiff I guess.

Also, it could be misinterpretation on the newsletter side.

 


Yeah, it wouldn't be the first time I see false information in a news article so I'm certainly not taking it as absolute truth just from that.