Well i just downloaded the free trail but i have no had time to play it and i wanted ot know if this game is wroth subing to and is the population good cause i want a game for PvP but i also want a game with a decent population

IIRC you can only pick Badlands server for a NA trial account. Badlands will be getting some new players soon with the new merge going on, but the pop is already pretty decent. Gorfang is the highest pop server though, so if you do subscribe roll to gorfang for th emost action.

Okay and also another question how come everyone makes this game out like it is dead that its got no population or anything?

Originally posted by syrusmag3

Okay and also another question how come everyone makes this game out like it is dead that its got no population or anything?

Because a lot of people on this site just like to bitch and complain. They see that the game at one point had more servers and now is down to a handfull so they go OMG GAME IS DEAD! The thing is that a lot of the reasons people left the game were fixed and just most of them never gave the game a second chance to prove itself. A lot of people that do come back however are pleasantly surprised.

Also I would say that Gorfang and Badlands have roughly the same population based on my population counter addon. But Badlands being a trial server means it's tier 1 population is higher than Gorfangs while Gorfangs Tier 4 population is higher than Badlands.

Originally posted by syrusmag3

Okay and also another question how come everyone makes this game out like it is dead that its got no population or anything?

Because that's the impression people get when a game goes down from 65 servers to 2 (US side).
 The last merger was still recently where 2 of the last 4 servers were mrged into Gorfang.

It's not so much the game is dead. It's just that it has been in a downward spiral since release and there has been no sign of stabilizing population at all.

Add to that there has been very little new content in two years, no real expansion nor any sight of one, and an open admission staff's working on TOR, and there's simply not much goodwill left for a lot of people.

That said, there's pop on the current servers, and it can be fun, for a while. I just wouldn't recommend it if you're looking for a MMO to settle into for the foreseeable future. Rather just something to do casually, or on the side or something like that.

Originally posted by Mmocount

Originally posted by syrusmag3

Okay and also another question how come everyone makes this game out like it is dead that its got no population or anything?

Because that's the impression people get when a game goes down from 65 servers to 2 (US side).
 The last merger was still recently where 2 of the last 4 servers were mrged into Gorfang.

 

It's not so much the game is dead. It's just that it has been in a downward spiral since release and there has been no sign of stabilizing population at all.

Add to that there has been very little new content in two years, no real expansion nor any sight of one, and an open admission staff's working on TOR, and there's simply not much goodwill left for a lot of people.

 

That said, there's pop on the current servers, and it can be fun, for a while. I just wouldn't recommend it if you're looking for a MMO to settle into for the foreseeable future. Rather just something to do casually, or on the side or something like that.

Population has been stable for at least the past 1-2 years. I have done population scans and numbers have remained about the same. RvR/PvP, honestly, is dynamic content, and thus no real need for anything new beyond what the players make different each and every fight. They are heliping with ToR, but not abandoning or ceasing anything with WAR.

This game still has the best RvR/PvP experience in any MMO. If that is what you are looking for this is it. People need to get over themselves, and try the game for the first time, or come back with an open mind. If you look at it with a fresh set of eyes, then you will see that this game has the best RvR/PvP and has improved ten fold since release.

Originally posted by Mmocount

 

That said, there's pop on the current servers, and it can be fun, for a while. I just wouldn't recommend it if you're looking for a MMO to settle into for the foreseeable future. Rather just something to do casually, or on the side or something like that.

Originally posted by spyder2k5

 

Population has been stable for at least the past 1-2 years. I have done population scans and numbers have remained about the same.

Stop spouting crap like that. 1-2 years ago this game had 300k people. what is that now, 50k per server?  Pop has been going down continuously. Each time followed with server upon server running dry, complaining about pops for a while and getting merged eventually.

Speak for the game all you want but obvious lies like this don't help the game, they just make you look like a fanboy ignoring the obvious.

Originally posted by Mmocount

Originally posted by spyder2k5

 

Population has been stable for at least the past 1-2 years. I have done population scans and numbers have remained about the same.

Stop spouting crap like that. 1-2 years ago this game had 300k people. what is that now, 50k per server?  Pop has been going down continuously. Each time followed with server upon server running dry, complaining about pops for a while and getting merged eventually.

Speak for the game all you want but obvious lies like this don't help the game, they just make you look like a fanboy ignoring the obvious.

 6 servers... 50k each... that sounds like 300k to me. Your logic seems flawed.

Originally posted by kaiser3282

 

 6 servers... 50k each... that sounds like 300k to me. Your logic seems flawed.

... rofl. Try thinking about it next time :)

Originally posted by syrusmag3

Well i just downloaded the free trail but i have no had time to play it and i wanted ot know if this game is wroth subing to and is the population good cause i want a game for PvP but i also want a game with a decent population

As long as you stay on the endless free trial and only play levels 1-11 you should be fine. After that there is really not much point. I don't advise paying any money for this game.

And to the few of you in here saying this game isn't dead, even you have to admit the game is a badly ailling shell of its former self, and that the old skiiny guy in the black robes is looking on while sharpening his scythe.

I'll say two things;

1) This game is great and yes, PvP/RvR is in my opinion the best out there.

2) Yes, the game is kind of dying. Slowly but it doesn't feel like it's gona make it another 2 or 3 years unless it goes free.

Best way to enjoy WaR. Start with a few friends together ((Lan party)). Do some free trial. PvP the hell out of it, its great fun and then decide as a group. Going at it alone in WaR at this stage is kinda hard. Like a previous poster said, the mid level content is quite silent/ as in very few players.

Originally posted by Tardcore

Originally posted by syrusmag3

Well i just downloaded the free trail but i have no had time to play it and i wanted ot know if this game is wroth subing to and is the population good cause i want a game for PvP but i also want a game with a decent population

As long as you stay on the endless free trial and only play levels 1-11 you should be fine. After that there is really not much point. I don't advise paying any money for this game.

 

And to the few of you in here saying this game isn't dead, even you have to admit the game is a badly ailling shell of its former self, and that the old skiiny guy in the black robes is looking on while sharpening his scythe.

You clearly don't currently play it.

Am looking forward to playing it when theres the welcome back offer . Always enjoy it in june or july whatever it is when it happens for a couple of weeks . Would never pay for it though . Most people say the f2play weeks are amazing but it dies a death following it . It always makes me laugh the /special never seams to be fixed . or maybe it is now ? Shame if it is because  I liked doing it in my squig armour and go around with a red hand when I changed back . hehe

Originally posted by Mmocount

Originally posted by kaiser3282

 

 6 servers... 50k each... that sounds like 300k to me. Your logic seems flawed.

... rofl. Try thinking about it next time :)

 Think about what? im not saying your numbers are accurate or not, but do you not understand simple math?

You said it used to have 300k players, now its only 50k per server.

there are 6 servers.

50k per server (your own words)

50 x 6 = 300

elementary school math skills ftw

Originally posted by kaiser3282

Originally posted by Mmocount

Originally posted by kaiser3282

 

 6 servers... 50k each... that sounds like 300k to me. Your logic seems flawed.

... rofl. Try thinking about it next time :)

 Think about what? im not saying your numbers are accurate or not, but do you not understand simple math?

 

You said it used to have 300k players, now its only 50k per server.

there are 6 servers.

50k per server (your own words)

50 x 6 = 300

elementary school math skills ftw

I said 300k. I wasn't sure how many servers were left for the moment so I said 300 divided by 6 = 50k or what?

The point being that I made up (and yes divided) that number myself.

The thing to think about, which you seemed to have missed, is that a server won't *have* 50k people on it. Just assume for a second that even at best primetime the game would only have ... 50% or so playing the game. When's the last time you saw 25 thousand people online on your server?

Not probably, because they'd be providing emergency medcare to the hamsters running them :)

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Originally posted by Mmocount

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Originally posted by spyder2k5

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Population has been stable for at least the past 1-2 years. I have done population scans and numbers have remained about the same.

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Stop spouting crap like that. 1-2 years ago this game had 300k people. what is that now, 50k per server? Pop has been going down continuously. Each time followed with server upon server running dry, complaining about pops for a while and getting merged eventually.
Speak for the game all you want but obvious lies like this don't help the game, they just make you look like a fanboy ignoring the obvious.

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First off, this is based on actual population scans from within the game. Population numbers on all server(I check them all) have remained the same at peak, and in off hours it has been roughly the same as normal for off hours.

This game is just a bit over 2 years old, of course it had more 2 years ago. That does not mean the current population is not sustainable or stable, because guess what? It is, and it is.

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Originally posted by Tardcore

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Originally posted by syrusmag3

Well i just downloaded the free trail but i have no had time to play it and i wanted ot know if this game is wroth subing to and is the population good cause i want a game for PvP but i also want a game with a decent population

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As long as you stay on the endless free trial and only play levels 1-11 you should be fine. After that there is really not much point. I don't advise paying any money for this game.

And to the few of you in here saying this game isn't dead, even you have to admit the game is a badly ailling shell of its former self, and that the old skiiny guy in the black robes is looking on while sharpening his scythe.

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This game is not dead, and is not dying, yes it has seen better day number wise, but quality wise, the game has never been better, and just keeps improving, those that have not played since launch give it a go, those who have been gone extended periods give it a go, if its been 60 or 90 days forget which you can goto the account center and reactivate for a 10 or 14 day trial on your old account. New players please for the love of god take it from someone who plays the game, this game is good, don't be scared to try it, ignore all the haters and get in and have fun. If numbers prove anything is that they don't prove a game is good or not, look at WoW for instance, I have played off and on for years, but its boring, and totally imbalanced.

Play it if you like it, or shut the hell up and move on so those that are interested in the game can speak about it in peace.

[quote] [i]Originally posted by spyder2k5[/i] First off, this is based on actual population scans from within the game. Population numbers on all server(I check them all) have remained the same at peak, and in off hours it has been roughly the same as normal for off hours.This game is just a bit over 2 years old, of course it had more 2 years ago. That does not mean the current population is not sustainable or stable, because guess what? It is, and it is.I speak truth and fact, not lies and false hatred like you, someone who does not even play the game.[/quote]

My statement was on your statement that pop was stable over the last 1-2 years.

So let's take at face value that you have 'checked' pop numbers, across all servers, across all realms, over the last few years. 

Then the truth should be staring you in the face. No, it is not possible for a game to have the same peak and off peak numbers across all servers, yet have shrunk by about ~60 servers to 2(assuming US) in the meantime(assuming 2 years).

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Assuming the above, yet still looking at your statement I'm guessing you're simply not explaining yourself well enough or I'm not understanding you. It's not possible for pops to be stable yet the game to shrink, so something is off.

As for current pops possibly being sustainable/stable. I never said otherwise. What I *did* say was that since release the pop has only shrunk and shrunk. Which it has, which was obvious when server, after server, after server started complaining of pops and eventually got merged. The Frenchies being the latest of that bunch which is happening right now basically.

Originally posted by Mmocount

[quote] [i]Originally posted by spyder2k5[/i] First off, this is based on actual population scans from within the game. Population numbers on all server(I check them all) have remained the same at peak, and in off hours it has been roughly the same as normal for off hours.This game is just a bit over 2 years old, of course it had more 2 years ago. That does not mean the current population is not sustainable or stable, because guess what? It is, and it is.I speak truth and fact, not lies and false hatred like you, someone who does not even play the game.[/quote]

 

My statement was on your statement that pop was stable over the last 1-2 years.

So let's take at face value that you have 'checked' pop numbers, across all servers, across all realms, over the last few years. 

Then the truth should be staring you in the face. No, it is not possible for a game to have the same peak and off peak numbers across all servers, yet have shrunk by about ~60 servers to 2(assuming US) in the meantime(assuming 2 years).

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Assuming the above, yet still looking at your statement I'm guessing you're simply not explaining yourself well enough or I'm not understanding you. It's not possible for pops to be stable yet the game to shrink, so something is off.

 

As for current pops possibly being sustainable/stable. I never said otherwise. What I *did* say was that since release the pop has only shrunk and shrunk. Which it has, which was obvious when server, after server, after server started complaining of pops and eventually got merged. The Frenchies being the latest of that bunch which is happening right now basically.

Population at launch and a year after was a bit higher then the past year to a year and a half, correct but since about 1 1/2 years ago the population has not shurnk, it has been stable and is sustainable.

People always complain, its a fact of life, but I stick by my scans, as they are taken from ingame with REAL data.

Originally posted by spyder2k5

Originally posted by Mmocount

[quote] [i]Originally posted by spyder2k5[/i] First off, this is based on actual population scans from within the game. Population numbers on all server(I check them all) have remained the same at peak, and in off hours it has been roughly the same as normal for off hours.This game is just a bit over 2 years old, of course it had more 2 years ago. That does not mean the current population is not sustainable or stable, because guess what? It is, and it is.I speak truth and fact, not lies and false hatred like you, someone who does not even play the game.[/quote]

 

My statement was on your statement that pop was stable over the last 1-2 years.

So let's take at face value that you have 'checked' pop numbers, across all servers, across all realms, over the last few years. 

Then the truth should be staring you in the face. No, it is not possible for a game to have the same peak and off peak numbers across all servers, yet have shrunk by about ~60 servers to 2(assuming US) in the meantime(assuming 2 years).

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Assuming the above, yet still looking at your statement I'm guessing you're simply not explaining yourself well enough or I'm not understanding you. It's not possible for pops to be stable yet the game to shrink, so something is off.

 

As for current pops possibly being sustainable/stable. I never said otherwise. What I *did* say was that since release the pop has only shrunk and shrunk. Which it has, which was obvious when server, after server, after server started complaining of pops and eventually got merged. The Frenchies being the latest of that bunch which is happening right now basically.

Population at launch and a year after was a bit higher then the past year to a year and a half, correct but since about 1 1/2 years ago the population has not shurnk, it has been stable and is sustainable.

People always complain, its a fact of life, but I stick by my scans, as they are taken from ingame with REAL data.

Actual population scans? ROFL!!!! we should just take your word for it? where is this data that you accumlated over an year? post us a link or something otherwise i am calling bull*** on this one.