WAR (Warhammer Online) Forum » General Discussion » This Game Failed: Fire Mark Jacobs

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

What a stupid thread. The OP is completely subjective, trying to pass off a personal opinion as fact. Its ok not to like a game, but that does not mean your opinion is everyone’s.

 

The calling for MJ to be fired, yeah, you need some perspective. Only someone who has no idea how games are made, and thinks making games are easy would say such a thing. It always easer to look at a game, then say something needs improvement, but how about you start from point one, and make a game, that’s the hard part and what they have done very well.

 

Armchair devs, lolz.

 

 

I agree

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by Spamalot345

Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is  WoW.

 

 

You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.

Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.

QFT

LOL @ OP.

Sorry but Marc Jacobs is what Brad McQuaid should have been.

WAR is a roaring success. Nothing to see here. Give MJ a raise.

Originally posted by Astralglide

I waited a long time for W.A.R to come out. I thought that the open beta show promise, but was a little perplexed with missing four classes (two of which I was really looking forward to) and the utter lack of trade skills- not to mention how they worked. Granted, I bitched about WoW's trade skills- until I played LOTRO- and the way the skills work in W.A.R. I have become a fan of the WoW trade skills again. *sigh*

I was also looking forward to no having to grind. I figured that between PVE, PQs, and RvR, I would have to do little to no grinding. That would be true, if I could ever get into an RvR scenario. I have seen the tier 2 scenario three times since I became level 21, and my tier three guildees have never seen the tier three scenario- even after 30 hours of waiting in queues. After completing upto chap 10 in Chaos, I have also done chap 8-10 in Greenskins, and 8-10 in Dark Elves, and I am STILL level 21. After quitting LOTRO because I spent most of that game farming Yetis for the bonus, I find myself in WAR, once again, farming fucking Yetis because the kill collector gives experience for them

The result of all this is that my already low population server, KIslev, is getting lower. The Guild Master of my guild cleaned out 60 players who had not logged on in over two weeks, which is pretty sad for a game that has been around for only three weeks. I believe we will be clearing out more as there are about 50 people who have not logged on in the past week. People are fleeing this game left and right, which cuts down on the available RvR, which destroys the point, and fun, of the game. When I called customer service to see if I could transfer my toons to a higher population server, I was told that "Was not possible" and that they were "looking for ways to remedy the situation".

I have a remedy: fire Mark Jacobs.

That's right. Fire the incompetent general manager and vice president of Mythic Entertainment who allowed the release an unfinished game, late, with serious flaws and irritating features (20 second send mail delay?) I'm sure that the shareholders have noticed the 30% DROP in stock value since the release of W.A.R. and the fact that the servers are laggy, even with low population, is unacceptable. The higher population servers have a too low of a cap- so the only people who can play are those who don't have school or a job.

Contact EA. Tell them what is going on, and demand accountability. Hold the man who was responsible for this utter debacle accountable and fire Mark Jacobs.

 

This is just a joke right?  This thread...........
 

/sigh, cry cry cry

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by Spamalot345

Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is  WoW.

 

 

You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.

Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.

 

QFT

Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?

From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?

Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.

Originally posted by Astralglide

I waited a long time for W.A.R to come out. I thought that the open beta show promise, but was a little perplexed with missing four classes (two of which I was really looking forward to) and the utter lack of trade skills- not to mention how they worked. Granted, I bitched about WoW's trade skills- until I played LOTRO- and the way the skills work in W.A.R. I have become a fan of the WoW trade skills again. *sigh*

I was also looking forward to no having to grind. I figured that between PVE, PQs, and RvR, I would have to do little to no grinding. That would be true, if I could ever get into an RvR scenario. I have seen the tier 2 scenario three times since I became level 21, and my tier three guildees have never seen the tier three scenario- even after 30 hours of waiting in queues. After completing upto chap 10 in Chaos, I have also done chap 8-10 in Greenskins, and 8-10 in Dark Elves, and I am STILL level 21. After quitting LOTRO because I spent most of that game farming Yetis for the bonus, I find myself in WAR, once again, farming fucking Yetis because the kill collector gives experience for them

The result of all this is that my already low population server, KIslev, is getting lower. The Guild Master of my guild cleaned out 60 players who had not logged on in over two weeks, which is pretty sad for a game that has been around for only three weeks. I believe we will be clearing out more as there are about 50 people who have not logged on in the past week. People are fleeing this game left and right, which cuts down on the available RvR, which destroys the point, and fun, of the game. When I called customer service to see if I could transfer my toons to a higher population server, I was told that "Was not possible" and that they were "looking for ways to remedy the situation".

I have a remedy: fire Mark Jacobs.

That's right. Fire the incompetent general manager and vice president of Mythic Entertainment who allowed the release an unfinished game, late, with serious flaws and irritating features (20 second send mail delay?) I'm sure that the shareholders have noticed the 30% DROP in stock value since the release of W.A.R. and the fact that the servers are laggy, even with low population, is unacceptable. The higher population servers have a too low of a cap- so the only people who can play are those who don't have school or a job.

Contact EA. Tell them what is going on, and demand accountability. Hold the man who was responsible for this utter debacle accountable and fire Mark Jacobs.

 

According to your poll you have failed. It appears that not many voters want Mark Jacobs fired. Also, your guild leader removed 60 people because they had not logged on in 2 weeks? That was just plain stupid.

I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times.

He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers.

He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by Spamalot345

Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is  WoW.

 

 

You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.

Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.

 

QFT

 

Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?

From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?

Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.

Hahaha no, he was agreeing with you. QFT means quoted for truth...as in he agrees with what you said. Stop construction on that bridge right away!

I love the game. It's keeping me busy and I've only barely scratched the surface of the content it offers.

The big mistake they did make was the server rollout strategy. Ghost servers are a problem and they have done nothing to address it.

On a dead server, seeing tons of guildmates disappear into the ether doesn't surprise me at all. Not that they are leaving the game, but that most have probably gone to more populated servers.

I moved to populated servers (one for order, one for destruction) after languishing in an underpopulated environment and the difference is night and day.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Burnthebed[/i] [b]I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times. He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers. He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.[/b][/quote]

wanna see something funny?  I found this quote he made back on 9/24/08 about xfire.

I agree. Xfire is useless and the data from those statistics are not very usefull for gauging of population numbers (in particular as AoC in fact also has some compatibility issues with Xfire). The 2% rise could however be good for one thing, which is to set an stopper for all these idiotic AoC xfire analysis posts. That's a blessing in itself

Originally posted by Salio69

Originally posted by todeswulf

More proof that 98% of MMO players are moronic Asshats.

 

dont be so stupid. its 98.7%

You guys are both optomists.

Originally posted by Hamrtime2

[quote][i]Originally posted by Burnthebed[/i] [b]I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times. He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers. He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.[/b][/quote]

 

 

wanna see something funny?  I found this quote he made back on 9/24/08 about xfire.

I agree. Xfire is useless and the data from those statistics are not very usefull for gauging of population numbers (in particular as AoC in fact also has some compatibility issues with Xfire). The 2% rise could however be good for one thing, which is to set an stopper for all these idiotic AoC xfire analysis posts. That's a blessing in itself

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

I think it all depends who you ask if this game failed or not. The diehard fans will say no and the rest will clearly have mixed opinions. It will be interesting to see how many actually will subscribe to the game and how long they will last.  Though I suspect it will do no better than DAOC did.

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by Spamalot345

Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is  WoW.

 

 

You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.

Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.

 

QFT

 

Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?

From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?

Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.

Lol, QFT = quoted for truth.

Chill out mate, i agree with you.

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by markoraos

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by Spamalot345

Yet another emo thread started by a McWoWer hoping to trick people into returning to the crapfest that is  WoW.

 

 

You must know the guy in real life. Cause thats what it seems.

Can't believe this guy saying they should fire him. They should ban his forum account for being stupid.

 

QFT

 

Im sorry, im not down with all the lingo in forums can you please explaine what that means?

From what I understand QQ stands for quit complaining.(Doesn't make sense) so I think you are saying im trolling?

Well, I guess saying someone should be banned because of posting something that could possibly affect a real persons situation in a game forum (a long shot but could happen, I've seen stranger things) is trolling. Guess I better start building a bridge.

 

Lol, QFT = quoted for truth.

Chill out mate, i agree with you.

My bad lol.
 

Originally posted by Astralglide

lulz
 

Obvious troll is obvious.

The OP may think the game as failed, but I'm enjoying it nicely.  The population concerns is over dramatized.  Sure it has its problems as a MMO, but its stable/plays well. 

If you don't like a game, just stop playing.  Why come here and complain about it?

Mark Jacobs fired? lol...

Name me someone in his position that launched a game of this size and did a better job...

Also if Mark Jacobs should be fired what general managers/lead designers do you feel are doing a great job?

Just curious...

Originally posted by JonMichael

Originally posted by Hamrtime2

[quote][i]Originally posted by Burnthebed[/i] [b]I think it's hilarious that Orionman still drags his soapbox from thread to thread shouting about Xfire numbers when he's been called out on it a thousand times. He is a person who staunchly defended Age of Conan when people were quoting Xfire numbers. According to him Xfire is not to be trusted in the case of AoC, but for every other game it is the be all end all of quotable numbers. He's full of it, and should be banned from the forums here.[/b][/quote]

 

 

wanna see something funny?  I found this quote he made back on 9/24/08 about xfire.

I agree. Xfire is useless and the data from those statistics are not very usefull for gauging of population numbers (in particular as AoC in fact also has some compatibility issues with Xfire). The 2% rise could however be good for one thing, which is to set an stopper for all these idiotic AoC xfire analysis posts. That's a blessing in itself

 

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

I think OrionMan post on the AoC forums under the name "Worgpest", he makes the most idiotic statements you can imagine about the success of AoC and the failure of War.  He took over as lead Fanboi for AoC since Protus has fallen off the boards. OrionMans world has been falling in around him since his "Precious" AoC has been a total disaster, so he's started trashing War in some lame attempt to compensate.

You guys must of not seen AoC realease

threads like this need to be locked before they start.

Originally posted by Souvec

Originally posted by altairzq

Well, he lied to thousands of people. That should be reason enough.

 

Ummm... what did they lie to us about?  If anything they have been as upfront and honest about everything I have seen and heard.

God, no.

He promised WAR would release when it was great, and it obviously it is not a great game, and he knew it, he lied to all of you. Not to talk about the mess he made when announcing the cuts in content, which I won't go into because I forgot the details, but he contradicted himself in a couple of times and in others what he said was so confusing it could be understood both ways. DO NOT trust this guy.

I personally think the game is great. It does have things that irritate me or things i wish were different but overall its a good game. I think mark has done a great job so far and I have confidence that things will improve even more in a few months. The only real obstacle its facing now is the release of WOTLK but I don't see that as a huge threat just because of the type of game WoW is at its core.
 

p.s. for the person that doesn't know what "QQ" means....QQ means cry.

Granted I didn't get to start playing till 2 days ago, I have 2 toons at level 11 and that was from about 4-5 hours of play time.

People, if your having a hard time leveling, get into a guild and suck up to the higher level members. In case you didn't know, power leveling in this game is in full force. By that, I mean a level 1 and a level 40 can group, level 40 kills all the mobs and players needed to complete quests, PQ's, PvP objectives and so on. All you need to do is some scenarios when your leveling friend isn't around.

Scenarios at level 8-11 amount to about 7500-10000 XP a pop and scenarios take how long? 10-15 minutes tops? Level 11 requires about 80-100k XP, so 10-15 scenarios and you just made 12.

WAR is easy to level in if you know what your doing, which usually means joining a guild.

EDIT: My bad, you can only group with a level 1 as long as your not 23. My original statement of 40 was incorrect.

Originally posted by Koolaider

Yay, another overzealous thread about accountability.

his post is more than valid.. get over ur fanboy hat and see the truth