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WAR (Warhammer Online) Forum » General Discussion » Overpowered/Underpowered Classes

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  Arndur

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Joined: 4/26/07
Posts: 2193

BOOMER SOONER

8/22/08 8:39:09 PM#21
Originally posted by sp1ltwrung

From the classes I've played in Beta so far the Magus and Engineer seem to be the most underpowered.... at least in RvR anyway.  Problems seem mostly to do with the static nature of the summons which is a real problem in fast flowing fights plus turret LOS problems in defensive situations which overall cause a serious loss of DPS + the engineer needing to hug his turret for survivabilty all seem to contribute.  Some serious changes are in the works for both classes so that may help.

 

Not sure there is a most overpowered class at the mo...although in standoff situations the Wizzies can bring down a world of hurt. 


 

You need to play the enigneer a bit more. Im loving mine. Blasted a goblin off the fort in the empire t1 scenario and fell over laughing wtaching him fly over the cliff to his death. Once I got my t2 armour my engineer became a beast. Me by myself, egh they ignore me, but drop a turret and it becomes kill the engineer.

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  SoulMaster64

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Joined: 12/24/08
Posts: 2

12/24/08 7:58:03 AM#22

And what about the chosen? I really like him because hes like a tank, but i havent played. Please, tell me how the chosen combat system works.

  armengar

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Joined: 8/30/06
Posts: 50

12/24/08 9:05:37 AM#23

imo underpowered is tanks

overpowered is witch elf(all other melee dps seem balanced)

overpowered ranged dps

  armengar

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Joined: 8/30/06
Posts: 50

12/24/08 9:07:47 AM#24
Originally posted by SoulMaster64

And what about the chosen? I really like him because hes like a tank, but i havent played. Please, tell me how the chosen combat system works.


 

you basically twist auras, kind of like the bards did back in eq1 , to be the most effective, but not that easilly done while in rvr combat and you are getting pummeled.

as with all tanks imo they are underpowered

  Azmaria

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Joined: 6/19/07
Posts: 22

12/24/08 9:22:28 AM#25

as with all tanks imo they are underpowered

I would disagree most emphatically.  Tanks typically take a small army to kill...which is their job.  Hell, they can even kill things, making them even more effective.  They also have roots, snares, knockdowns, debuffs, party buffs...I don't see what you're complaining about?  Not sure if this is still possible, but not long ago, a good warrior priest and iron breaker could solo a tier 3 keep.  Not really sure how that makes tanks UP.

  Solari

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Joined: 5/18/04
Posts: 6

12/24/08 11:25:38 AM#26

Tanks aren't underpowered!  I play a Black Orc on one server and duo with a Knight on another, and we both feel tanks are awesome.  Sure, they're not good at melee, but they shouldn't be. 

Witch elves are crazy overpowered and horrifying to every Order person.  I play on vent and I hear, "kill the witch elf!!!" in panicked voices all the time lol.  Also, the Sorceress pool of pink death is stupidly overpowered and makes a group of Order either run in a panic or die in confusion.

  sanders01

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Joined: 7/05/08
Posts: 1372

To each his own.

12/24/08 11:26:37 AM#27

 Engineers are Underpowered since I last played, WP are OP.

Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  armengar

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12/24/08 11:36:24 AM#28
Originally posted by Azmaria

as with all tanks imo they are underpowered

I would disagree most emphatically.  Tanks typically take a small army to kill...which is their job.  Hell, they can even kill things, making them even more effective.  They also have roots, snares, knockdowns, debuffs, party buffs...I don't see what you're complaining about?  Not sure if this is still possible, but not long ago, a good warrior priest and iron breaker could solo a tier 3 keep.  Not really sure how that makes tanks UP.


 

They arent I'm just pissed cuz nobody seemed to want to heal last night taking the keep, tanks are fine, esp the IB and BO, have not played the blackguard so i really dont know about it

  Jolo

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 167

12/24/08 11:44:10 AM#29

The most underpowered is prolly the Engineer. playing it myself and cant even kill a chicken in RvR. Sad but true :(

  lifeofagony

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Joined: 12/01/05
Posts: 67

12/24/08 4:45:52 PM#30

I play a SW and if i get a WE in my sight my arrows drop her in no time.Slow+dot+rapidshooting=death

  Azmaria

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12/24/08 7:14:00 PM#31

I play a White Lion as my main; Witch Elves don't have a chance against me.  Even when already engaged by 1-2 tanks, I can take out the WE and half of a tank's life before going down (if I'm solo).  However, against squishy (aka Light Armor) targets, they are Death Incarnate.

  lukyjay

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12/25/08 4:09:24 AM#32


Originally posted by metalhead980

I love that WAR doesn't have its own official forums.
I won't have to be bothered with these stupid OP/UP posts.
Something that totally destroyed the WoW forums for me.
Thank god I don't have to deal with that stupid shit.
I can find a mature forum that has a small community that isn't a bunch of mentally challenged fanbois.
 



 Noone forces you to read official forums ;)

  Adamai

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Posts: 466

8/20/11 10:43:06 PM#33

i play a bw and i can tell you now its under powered.  very very underpowered.  people cry blue murder about the bw being too powerfull when they have absolutely no clues what they are talking about.

 

a bw has literally no defencive capabilities at all.. no self heals and its hit points mean nothing!!

 

now with such a handicap as being one hit killed by just about all destro classes! one would think that the bw offencive capability makes up for the lack of defence.. well it does not..  it is the weakest class in the game. the dps needs a slight buff.. but the armour and defence of the class is its biggest down fall..

 

every other class can one shot or two shot a bw and wipe it out but a bw with all its overpowered goodness as you goons would have people believe can barely kill anything solo.. I KNOW I PLAY A BW!!! and my bw is twinked todeath!!!  im talking 45% crit rate or there abouts and around 1089 intel with a dps of roughly 223. including magic dmg. now thats pretty piss poor for a class thats concidered to be a glass cannon!!!  oh dont get me wrong its certainly a glass class.. but there is by no means any trace of the cannon aspect..   as ive said before i play a bw and i cant take down a mara. or a shaman or a sorc or a magus or even a tank. as one might expect from such a class as the bright wizard.. sure i could probably run all over the map for 5 minutes trying to wear it down with dots.. this might work on tanks and maras but it doesnt stand a chance agains shamans magus doks or sorcs.. reason is . these classes have self heals. and they seem to have great defence and fantastic tanks and just as much if not more fire power than my bw!!! 

 

now here is the crunch and decideing factor which proves the bw is lacking on all fronts.

i also play a level 32 knight of the blazing sun.. and i have to admit its good fun.. it tanks very well it has a semi healing ability as well as other auras for aoe dmg.  and rather decent dps.. so decent infact the dps on my rank 32 rr50 knight is 234 lol  thats a bit more than my all powerful bright wizard.. but with armour and high resists. reasonable crit rate. great parry and block stats.  and its only rank 32.. my bw is rank 40 rr 53.

here is some mroe evidence that bw is underpowered!!  

my knight can solo the skaven in the altdofrf sewers, sure he has to fight pretty hard against the hero boss'es at the end but he can do it by himself with no healers..  my bright wizard cant even deal with the first 3 champ rats as you enter the sewer.. thats a rank 40 rr53 bright wizard..  it cannot an i repeat cannot solo the sewers..  i then recruited the help of a friend who playes a rank 30 warrior priest to back my bw up lol. we made it to the hero bosses at the end of the instance and well the bosses killed me and my healer in a matter of seconds.. no messing about just dead..

so can some one tell me why my noob rank 33 knight can out dps and out tank and out last my rank 40 rr 53 bright wizard. ?? 

you dont even need to answer.. because there is no answer and any one that does answer are either hwiney destro players who are shit at the game or people that have never played a bw.. the answer is there is no explanation  other than the bright wizard is incredibly underpowered..

their is 2 ways we could correct this issue..

 

1 / give bw more defencive capabilities and a self heal (not the 67% you get from useing sear)

2 / increase the dps and crit rate so it can actually start to be a glass cannon.

i see to many people moaning about the bw being over powered. all you have to do is read what i just put to know that its utterly underpowered and i will argue that its also the hardest class to play too due to its incredible sensativity to enemy fire.. 1 maybe 2 hits and your dead. it really shouldnt be like that.. any one playing these games should have an equal chance..

i know i cant one or two shot any destro player with my bw..  i cant even 4 shot a destro player. infact the only kills im aware of are the ones i steal off the backs of othe rplayers such as mdps. im actually kill stealing.

i dont recall many solo kills at all.. sure there are some  but very rare.. so rare infact i can solo kill with my rank 30 knight around 60 destro a day with out so much as breaking a sweat.  one might even argue that a knight is op too..

 

but then i would have to sit here and say  "if a knight is op how come a shamen can out run me out dps me and heal the dmg i do to it, and at the same time wittle me down to no health eventually killing me"

as ive already said. ive played a bw and knight.. i know exactly what im talking about.  i think the knight is ok  but i do also think the doks and shamans are definately op. they have to be if they can 2-3 shot bw's and kill tanks. 

i dont want any witty sarcastic remarks.. about how to play as i know ive tried every play style to find the secret of the bw and im fairly confident there is no secret its just simply underpowered.  ive even done the stupid divvy shit thing by googling the class and seeing what other people have done. and then i copied them and guess what!!! same issue bw is under powered and far to sqwishy.  these guys that bang on about how good there bw's are or how powerful they are just lieing to them selves or are getting incredibly lucky or are just simply too stupid to see the obvious.

i also play a war priest too and slayer. low level though so i wont comment on these classes as i havnt experienced them enough yet.. might i add that im on my second bw ??  it used to be a really good class before they nerfed it. back then i would probably argue that the bw was a little op back then.. but hell they nerfed it way way too much.

the bw is so bad now.. ive kinda stopped playing it. its just not fun.. load into an sc see the destro and wham dead 1-2 hits gone.. not even enough time to go through my rotation. a single rotation doesnt even register.. i have to apply a rotate then let of some DD and then reaply rotations just to see the target loose a third of its health.. sure its being healed and so am i.. but when im targeted i die instantly.. but my destro counter parts seem to be indestructable.. my bw offence counts for nothing.  its simply lacks dps dmg.  and the aoe aspect is just abysmal.  im not sure about any one else but how many bw's do you see in warbands and how many mdps do you see in warbands.  

ill tell you.

in most of the warbands ive been in im usually the only bright wizard.. on occasions we will see 2-3 bw's and on very rare occasions maybe even 4 and some times 5.   now 5 bw's working to gether is pretty good but 5 mdps is far far more powerful so thats why you dont see many bw's in a warband.. its not because they are hard to play, its because they are crap and underpowered...

destro whined their little asses off and bright wizards got nerfed.. now may i ask what classes are being whined about now.. i already know destro still think bw's are op lol they even moan about nights.. but i dont see any one moaning about maras and how they can drag targets to them from vast ranges and have tanks as good as tanks and dps like no others. whats that all about.. ??

 

yea this is a moan. im sick of seeing threads about bw's being op lol no one has any idea what they are saying.. 

  Adamai

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Posts: 466

8/20/11 10:46:54 PM#34
Originally posted by lukyjay

 


Originally posted by metalhead980

 

I love that WAR doesn't have its own official forums.
I won't have to be bothered with these stupid OP/UP posts.
Something that totally destroyed the WoW forums for me.
Thank god I don't have to deal with that stupid shit.
I can find a mature forum that has a small community that isn't a bunch of mentally challenged fanbois.
 



 Noone forces you to read official forums ;)

 

op up posts didnt destroy the forums it destroyed the game and caused all those servers to be shut down.. now their is like only 5 active servers  2 american and i think its like 3-4eu servers. im going off memmory i would have to log in to give an accurate server count but i know its about 5 servers total left..  the game is dieing because of the retarded changes that have been made due to the whineing of op and up classes when they was fine all along. 

a bw should do epic dmg and devastate players.. they have no defence or heals so offence is their defence.. to beat a bw you have to kill it fast. or be killed. as it stands now you can kill a bw slowly without much worry of it killing you.. it simply lacks the dps to do the job quickly. ive died with my bw more times than ive ever died playing any class in any other game.. hell ive died more on my bw than i have in eve online.. and you cant play eve unless you get used to dieing.

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8/20/11 11:04:57 PM#35

Necro much?

  Neiko

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Joined: 8/07/06
Posts: 630

8/20/11 11:36:08 PM#36

ITT. Necro who thinks every class should be able to 1 v 1.

 

You must be doing things wrong, because I see bws with much higher crit chances than you in t4. Bw still wrecks, but it's more balanced now.

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