In the last part of Lord of the Rings movie, when they where all fighting on
the battlefield, I had a constant feeling about something being wrong.
There was something lacking in the fighting scenes. Then i realized
what it was. There is no blood, dirt, gore. It was the element missing
that made the huge battle look unrealistic. If you seen the opening
scene of "Save Private Ryan", you know what I mean.

Now after looking on the vids from WAR, I get the same feeling about
unrealistic battle.

The warhammer universe is about war, dirt, blood, darkness etc.
Instead of using loads of firework effect that makes the
battlefield look like a lightshow, Mythic should use more blood,
dirt, darkness and overall make it feel more voilent.

Sure, the nice light effects should be there, but only used i.e.
when doing critical hits.

I want the real Warhammer feeling, not a trade off cause EA wants to appeal kids.

I agree with you in theroy.

Yes WAR should have all the real elements of a real war but this is a video game. not a documentery on how the Chaos invaded Aldorf and cut the heads off babys. (and that is just for breakfast) I hate to say it but by them cutting the gore level down to PC13 they can make this game avalable to more people. If you need a game with blood, dirt, and naked chicks look at AOC. they are targeting that group of people. I like both games equily and will most likey play both of them in turn. But each one has its own feel to it. WAR is ment to be more cartoony and dark humor. While AOC is all about dirty realisum. I say take our pick.

Originally posted by dreadon

I hate to say it but by them cutting the gore level down to PC13 they can make this game avalable to more people.

I'm pretty sure that the player base of WAR will be much older then 13 years old. EA / Mythics lack of guts to bring something more "mature", will hit back on them.

as long as it's a good game I could care less.  I definitely wouldn't mind gore but it doesn't matter much to me.

A little gore here and there when it is necessary is nice, I agree. But when you fill a game with it, you really dumb down the reason you are playing the game in the first place. Mythic has always focused on giving players a great PvE/RvR experience that they can enjoy with thier friends and realm-mates. A game which involves butchering other pixelated beings is not Mythic's cup of tea. There are much more important things to focus on, like mechanics and gameplay.

If gore/blood is what you seek, you could always try AoC. You will visually get a "realistic" battle, but you will most definately not get a realistic battle in terms of gameplay.

(48 vs 48 pre-scheduled instanced sieges)

Its a choice between substance & appearance, gameplay & graphics.

Originally posted by Crusher

In the last part of Lord of the Rings movie, when they where all fighting on
the battlefield, I had a constant feeling about something being wrong.
There was something lacking in the fighting scenes. Then i realized
what it was. There is no blood, dirt, gore. It was the element missing
that made the huge battle look unrealistic. If you seen the opening
scene of "Save Private Ryan", you know what I mean.

Now after looking on the vids from WAR, I get the same feeling about
unrealistic battle.

The warhammer universe is about war, dirt, blood, darkness etc.
Instead of using loads of firework effect that makes the
battlefield look like a lightshow, Mythic should use more blood,
dirt, darkness and overall make it feel more voilent.

Sure, the nice light effects should be there, but only used i.e.
when doing critical hits.

I want the real Warhammer feeling, not a trade off cause EA wants to appeal kids.

amen.

my feelings...

Originally posted by TheChronic

 

Originally posted by Crusher

In the last part of Lord of the Rings movie, when they where all fighting on
the battlefield, I had a constant feeling about something being wrong.
There was something lacking in the fighting scenes. Then i realized
what it was. There is no blood, dirt, gore. It was the element missing
that made the huge battle look unrealistic. If you seen the opening
scene of "Save Private Ryan", you know what I mean.

Now after looking on the vids from WAR, I get the same feeling about
unrealistic battle.

The warhammer universe is about war, dirt, blood, darkness etc.
Instead of using loads of firework effect that makes the
battlefield look like a lightshow, Mythic should use more blood,
dirt, darkness and overall make it feel more voilent.

Sure, the nice light effects should be there, but only used i.e.
when doing critical hits.

I want the real Warhammer feeling, not a trade off cause EA wants to appeal kids.

 

amen.

my feelings...

Same here, I agree with the op

Originally posted by Crusher

In the last part of Lord of the Rings movie, when they where all fighting on
the battlefield, I had a constant feeling about something being wrong.
There was something lacking in the fighting scenes. Then i realized
what it was. There is no blood, dirt, gore. It was the element missing
that made the huge battle look unrealistic. If you seen the opening
scene of "Save Private Ryan", you know what I mean.

Now after looking on the vids from WAR, I get the same feeling about
unrealistic battle.

The warhammer universe is about war, dirt, blood, darkness etc.
Instead of using loads of firework effect that makes the
battlefield look like a lightshow, Mythic should use more blood,
dirt, darkness and overall make it feel more voilent.

Sure, the nice light effects should be there, but only used i.e.
when doing critical hits.

I want the real Warhammer feeling, not a trade off cause EA wants to appeal kids.

i believe it will still be a great game as it is but having learned how brutal warhammer is i wish they would have incorporated that in game. i understand keeping the game open to a broader audience but i truly believe it would still carry the same amount of subscribers rated t or rated m. that being said fun is the most important factor so i just hope they include that lol.

Originally posted by TheSheikh

If gore/blood is what you seek, you could always try AoC. You will visually get a "realistic" battle, but you will most definately not get a realistic battle in terms of gameplay.

Its a choice between substance & appearance, gameplay & graphics.

 
Heads doesn't have to roll. I'm talking about simple things like screams when being hit (audio), "pain" - animations that shows that arrows hurt etc.
Small things that increase the feeling of a raw, dirty and dark battle. Not the fluff combat you see in WoW

This was discussed in detail (ie. SEVERAL pages) a few months back. Just search on "gore" in this forum and find it. To much to re-state here over and over.

These are just a few examples of how the Warhammer universe really looks like. Even
Mythics own trailer is "raw". FFS Mythic what are you doing !?

www.youtube.com/watch

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While I would love Mythic to go for a M rating the fact stands they are doing a T rated game. A T rated game cannot have player themselves creating gore via their own actions. Just a fact you are going to have to deal with WAR. If you don't like it oh well find a different game. Play AoC or something.

As for Dawn of War and Mark of Chaos well they are M rated RTS games and comparing them with WAR is not fair due to the ratings for each game. Again I would of loved it if Mythic had gone for a M rating but oh well that's life.

P.S. Chaos Warriors in the Mark of Chaos intro video are really that awesome in close combat unlike in WAR where they are toned down.

Originally posted by Crusher

Originally posted by TheSheikh

If gore/blood is what you seek, you could always try AoC. You will visually get a "realistic" battle, but you will most definately not get a realistic battle in terms of gameplay.

Its a choice between substance & appearance, gameplay & graphics.

 
Heads doesn't have to roll. I'm talking about simple things like screams when being hit (audio), "pain" - animations that shows that arrows hurt etc.
Small things that incre