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Drgnprpht999  5/08/08 9:43:42 AM

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Heh thats what I did with EVE though I did make it out to into space but I couldn't quite graps the controls. Seems like it would be a fun game though.

 

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greymann  5/08/08 9:50:39 AM

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Originally posted by uncus

Hell, I'm more disturbed at the reviewer's lack of English proficiency!  Wtf are "pur" and "elevn"?  Is that "Pure" or "Your"; is it "eleven" or "Elven?" And.  the.  fragments. are Shatner-worthy!

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't take that reviewer seriously with those glaring grammatical mistakes!

Guess he's just been playing mmo's too long. 

I don't know guys, I would think the first 10 minutes of any new game are supposed to grab me and make me itch for more.  Sounds like it sucks.

 
JK-Kanosi  5/08/08 10:16:04 AM

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Originally posted by greymann

 

Originally posted by uncus

Hell, I'm more disturbed at the reviewer's lack of English proficiency!  Wtf are "pur" and "elevn"?  Is that "Pure" or "Your"; is it "eleven" or "Elven?" And.  the.  fragments. are Shatner-worthy!

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't take that reviewer seriously with those glaring grammatical mistakes!

 

Guess he's just been playing mmo's too long. 

I don't know guys, I would think the first 10 minutes of any new game are supposed to grab me and make me itch for more.  Sounds like it sucks.


They are supposed to. I like to use single player games as an example. Your first moments in a game usually immerses yourself in that gameworld, so you can get lost in it. You never are told by the quest givers to press this or that button, instead, pop-ups come up with "Press A to Attack" and etc. Also the quests grab you in and introduces you to the mystery that you are to solve. Take Oblivion for example. It starts you off as a prisoner and the first thing you hear is some prisoner talking smack, which you can kill later if you want. Next the King and his guards walk through your cell, which allows you to escape through the back passages that the king nad his guards are taking. Along the way you engage in combat for your first time and get some armor. You even get to lock pick from the get go. Or take God of War for example. You start off on a ship that is being attacked. You immediately are immersed in the world and are like "WTF, Why are you attacking my boat," as you commense to kicking their asses.

Giving a player a number in your quest, such as "Collect 7 of these or Kill 9 of those" is just bad. Instead, it should start out like "There is this local Bandit Lord in the nearby caves. I want you to prove your worth to our village by infliltrating his ranks and assassinating the Bandit Lord. Or, if you are so bold, just wipe them all out. I will pay you a sum of 50s if you are successful and will let you choose another reward from our village vault." By doing this, it allows the new person the freedom to do as he chooses (infiltrate or kill them all) and accomplishes the same thing as the kill quest. After all, he will probably kill 9 bandits during this quest anyways.

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Torak  5/08/08 10:33:39 AM

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Originally posted by bobtheblob

Just read a preview in this months Pc Gamer UK and here are a few intersting lines: "Your first 10 minutes in WAr are abysmal. And thats a shame, because there's real potential here. Pur premade character was dumped beside a massive boat on a drab island. There are buzzing fairies ahead, elevn sailors to your left and a path to the right. In front a quest master :" Kill four fairies, Kill six sailors. Go and meet my friend"

Welcome to the grind, stay here forever"

The article then goes on the complain about only having two skills at the start making the combat boring!

However the rest of the article is generally positive, mainly explaining why you should play WAR and so on.

However it makes me wonder what the previewer was looking for when he was preveiwing an mmo?! Anyways what do you guys think of what i have quoted? Does not concern me too much its what i expect from an mmo!

 

Source link???

Where is this article, I can't find it on PCGamer uk, is it print only? There is nothing about WAR mentioned on the cover.

One would think a WAR "preview" months ahead of release, would be sort of a big deal....

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Celestian  5/08/08 10:44:26 AM

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Doom cat already uncovered the OPs topic as fake and a troll. I think the "real" article is:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=187710

Vortigon  5/08/08 11:12:49 AM

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OP is AoC fanbois upset that AoC is pure FAIL.

Sorry OP we can't get your pre-order money back for AoC.  You should of listened to the bad reviews lol

Torak  5/08/08 11:15:51 AM

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Originally posted by Celestian

Doom cat already uncovered the OPs topic as fake and a troll. I think the "real" article is:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=187710

Ah....my bad.

I just read the first post and was like..."well where is the article?"....

He must be in the AoC beta and having nothing better to do with his screen loading time and crashes then pick on other unreleased games.

 

Anyway,

 

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adrianemery  5/08/08 12:03:57 PM

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I stopped getting PC Gamer years ago the magazine was just full of in jokes and the reviewers kept on bitching about they had to review what they got given by the editor and frankly if it wasn't a FPS game it was unlikely it would get anything about 5/10.

This magazine has a 2 month lead time on it so what they are reporting on is now over 8 weeks old.

This is why I saved my money by not getting this rubbish magazine and use the internet for demos/ and trials.

 
mcharj11  5/08/08 12:12:21 PM

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Originally posted by uncus

Hell, I'm more disturbed at the reviewer's lack of English proficiency!  Wtf are "pur" and "elevn"?  Is that "Pure" or "Your"; is it "eleven" or "Elven?" And.  the.  fragments. are Shatner-worthy!

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't take that reviewer seriously with those glaring grammatical mistakes!

Those are Typo's made by the OP, i ahve read the same article and those mistakes were not part ofn it.

 
mcharj11  5/08/08 12:16:25 PM

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Originally posted by Torak

 

Originally posted by Celestian

Doom cat already uncovered the OPs topic as fake and a troll. I think the "real" article is:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=187710

 

Ah....my bad.

I just read the first post and was like..."well where is the article?"....

He must be in the AoC beta and having nothing better to do with his screen loading time and crashes then pick on other unreleased games.

 

Anyway,

 

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Doom Cat is wrong, his link is to an article that was not in this months months PCGAMER UK. I have the mag and have read the article the OP has posted about and the editor did say that the first ten minutes in WAR was abysmal.

The funny thing is though that in every other issue that WAR has featured, PCGAMER sang it's praises. With this issue though they give ot a slight slating and theres a big adverstisement for Age of Conan on the back of the magazine.

 
abbaba  5/08/08 12:26:20 PM

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Originally posted by Kilmar

The first moments are very important in a MMO, devs should never offer a kill task as first quest.

The success of WoW says differently, and the vast majority of quests in WoW, including the starting ones, are either "kill 10 of X creature" or "kill X creature and loot 10 of item Y from it"

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Jetrpg  5/08/08 12:42:00 PM

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Originally posted by bobtheblob

Just read a preview in this months Pc Gamer UK and here are a few intersting lines: "Your first 10 minutes in WAr are abysmal. And thats a shame, because there's real potential here. Pur premade character was dumped beside a massive boat on a drab island. There are buzzing fairies ahead, elevn sailors to your left and a path to the right. In front a quest master :" Kill four fairies, Kill six sailors. Go and meet my friend"

Welcome to the grind, stay here forever"

The article then goes on the complain about only having two skills at the start making the combat boring!

However the rest of the article is generally positive, mainly explaining why you should play WAR and so on.

However it makes me wonder what the previewer was looking for when he was preveiwing an mmo?! Anyways what do you guys think of what i have quoted? Does not concern me too much its what i expect from an mmo!

Ever heard of Wow, DAOC, EQ, PS for freak sakes. Pretty much starting zone, he doesn't say the game was not fun for reason related to game play but what, i only have like two moves to start with.... And it is called character development.

 

He is totally , missing that the "grind" in this game really does help your side defeat the other side. Makign it not totally arbitrary.

 

That being said , the first quests should be hella fun and anyoen not saying so is misguided i believe.

The first quest should be intensive etc. I think what DAOC has now, but for war it should be a pvp or hostial npc area where you have to fight or RUN through to get to safty of a boat or wagon, Arc, etc that takes you to the starting areas, this would really get people invloved in not only the game but defeating their mortal enemies.

That and abbaba makes a good point, sometimes its better to underwhelm new players than overwhelm them. Crazy dynamic quests off the bat... possibly confusing. (I disagree but im an experienced gameplayer, and well many are not).

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TookyG  5/08/08 12:50:11 PM