I've been reading and following this game for quite some time and I gotta tell ya I'm just not seeing it. After watching the video all I can say is YUK. I dont care what stage of beta its in dont show me crap like that, if thats not the finished product at least wait until its decent before showing me anything. Oh you can flame me for saying that but theres no way anyone can tell me they were impressed with the video.

   Warhammer may be older that warcraft, and warcraft might even be a rip-off of warhammer, but the fact of the matter is warcraft was much more popular. Blizzard basically beat them to the punch. In no way am I saying WOW is a good game, you literally could'nt pay me to play that game. I'm serious, I played for 2 months and absolutely hated it every second, if you offered me 30k a year to play I'm sorry but I'd have to decline.

   So whats to lure me in? If theres no housing, no looting in pvp, simplistic crafting, almost identical lore to WOW. If I have to use wasd keys to move instead of just holding down the right mouse button to move (that is so commodre 64). I get friggin wasd claw after like 20 minutes, my fingers feel like a nun just beat on them with a yardstick.

   If the movement is as slow as WOW, I mean cmon I've seen sleestack move quicker than that. Toss in having your pots linked and you can only drink one every 60 seconds, along with no bandaging in combat, sheesh. I dont need the band aid when the fights over I need it during combat. Look it up in websters that the definition of idiocy.

   Basically if you liked WOW and its anything like WOW, no one playing WOW is going to leave to play the same game. If you hated WOW and it runs along the same lines your not going to play it either. So whats the hook thats going to reel me in?

I suggest you get a better keyboard... how can you get a claw with a keyboard bought in the last 20 years?

Three words "Realm vs Realm"! The RvR system will be one of the greatest hooks for the game. It will keep the game exciting!

Plus Warhammer is the the greatest and beats WOW anyday.

Go back to WoW noob.

This game has RvR, an envirment oozing with flavor, and is developed by interesting an devoted Devs who don't just want to make the next EQ clone.

That's opposed to the static, generic, facelessness of WoW. How the hell can you call your work professional whene 90% of your models are recycled 1,000,000 times? Who is actually developing WoW's content? Probably Deep Blue but that might be thinking too highly of Blizzard.

If you love your game so much and think it's perfect, GO PLAY IT!

Me? I want a game that's actually quality. That has a point besides grinding rats to level your character. That requires some skill to play. A graphics update would be nice too. WoW has pethetic graphics even for when it came out.

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Originally posted by Distortion0

Go back to WoW noob.

This game has RvR, an envirment oozing with flavor, and is developed by interesting an devoted Devs who don't just want to make the next EQ clone.

That's opposed to the static, generic, facelessness of WoW. How the hell can you call your work professional whene 90% of your models are recycled 1,000,000 times? Who is actually developing WoW's content? Probably Deep Blue but that might be thinking too highly of Blizzard.

If you love your game so much and think it's perfect, GO PLAY IT!

Me? I want a game that's actually quality. That has a point besides grinding rats to level your character. That requires some skill to play. A graphics update would be nice too. WoW has pethetic graphics even for when it came out.

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Originally posted by Shaman64
If you been following the game, then this post should never have been made, and the fact that its in alpha has alot to do with how the game looks. Don't give the"I don't care what stage of beta its in." I've got no problem with skepticism.

I am a fan, but I not devoted to warhammer entirely. I am not getting my hopes to high. But don't talk like alpha isn't anything important. Every damn game goes through alpa. Mythic has graphed thier fans with early footage.And I remind you very early footage.

You can say Warcraft is more popular, but that is in the gaming genre. Warhammer probally has a larger sum of tt players, espicially in europe. The WAR mmo will certainly draw hobbyists into its thralls.Housing has been discussed in a very early article, saying that guilds may have guilds halls, there are certainly concept arts of a guild hall that was released in the recent newsletter, and a players guuild hall would get ramshacked and burned down if thier city was taken giving a player ectra incentive to guard thier city.

Yes, there if a form of pvp looting, but its not taking the armour of thier damn backs. We've discussed a soldier of the opposite race has no need to burden himself with another rac'es dead soldier's armor.The lore... I doupt you have read any of the Warhammer lore.

Mythic has based thier world of our planet, specifically the old world, I want to say the middle to high medival ages.I've had the pleasure to browse through the backstories,race descriptions, and through a few books and plan on buying them once I get some money.
WArhamemrs lore has deeper depth, and if you ever read the books and try reading the spell description for the TT. Its gruesome and humerous.Crafting has hardly been discussed, so I don't know how you can term thier crafting "simplistic" if we havnt even seen it in action.

Yes, I've seen you on the forums, but after reading this post it makes me think that someone brainwashed you and you've forgotten everything about WAR.Nothing personal against you, but it also seems that all of your posts are well, pessimistic.

I know WAR has a large fanbase, but if you aren't a fan, and aren't going to type some good posts. Then find an mmo to play for a few months and wait for more info, then if you still don't like it give your opinion.

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Originally posted by havocthefirs

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Originally posted by Distortion0

Go back to WoW noob.

This game has RvR, an envirment oozing with flavor, and is developed by interesting an devoted Devs who don't just want to make the next EQ clone.

That's opposed to the static, generic, facelessness of WoW. How the hell can you call your work professional whene 90% of your models are recycled 1,000,000 times? Who is actually developing WoW's content? Probably Deep Blue but that might be thinking too highly of Blizzard.

If you love your game so much and think it's perfect, GO PLAY IT!

Me? I want a game that's actually quality. That has a point besides grinding rats to level your character. That requires some skill to play. A graphics update would be nice too. WoW has pethetic graphics even for when it came out.

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   Dude what part of I friggin hate WOW and you couldnt pay me to play that moronic childs game did you miss?

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Then why are you asking what WAR adds to WoW? Would you play WoW if it had better crafting and housing? I wouldn't!

WAR doesn't take anything from WoW. It's DAoC+Warhammer. IF you want to know what's different, you're going to need to be more specific because about the only thing they have in common are Orcs, Elves, and other assorted Fantasy folk along with no housing or looting of another player inventory.

As far as crafting goes, all Mythic has said is they think it's going to be great. As far looting goes, it won't be UO style but this is the only game to date that I know of where you can get all your XP from PvP and you get items from PvP without another player losing their's.

What in blue blazes do you want from a game? Maybe then we can tell you if WAR has it. God-damn, I hate impulse driven people. "This isn't good enough." "What is?" "Not this. I want better." "What's better?" "I dunno."

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Originally posted by callmetoby
Behold, the beginnings of another 5000 page thread of discontentment brought to you by havocthefirs. I can't wait....

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Originally posted by havocthefirs
I've been reading and following this game for quite some time and I gotta tell ya I'm just not seeing it. After watching the video all I can say is YUK. I dont care what stage of beta its in dont show me crap like that, if thats not the finished product at least wait until its decent before showing me anything. Oh you can flame me for saying that but theres no way anyone can tell me they were impressed with the video.
Warhammer may be older that warcraft, and warcraft might even be a rip-off of warhammer, but the fact of the matter is warcraft was much more popular. Blizzard basically beat them to the punch. In no way am I saying WOW is a good game, you literally could'nt pay me to play that game. I'm serious, I played for 2 months and absolutely hated it every second, if you offered me 30k a year to play I'm sorry but I'd have to decline.
So whats to lure me in? If theres no housing, no looting in pvp, simplistic crafting, almost identical lore to WOW. If I have to use wasd keys to move instead of just holding down the right mouse button to move (that is so commodre 64). I get friggin wasd claw after like 20 minutes, my fingers feel like a nun just beat on them with a yardstick.
If the movement is as slow as WOW, I mean cmon I've seen sleestack move quicker than that. Toss in having your pots linked and you can only drink one every 60 seconds, along with no bandaging in combat, sheesh. I dont need the band aid when the fights over I need it during combat. Look it up in websters that the definition of idiocy.
Basically if you liked WOW and its anything like WOW, no one playing WOW is going to leave to play the same game. If you hated WOW and it runs along the same lines your not going to play it either. So whats the hook thats going to reel me in?

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75-80% of WOWs gameplay is ripped of from old MMOs(such as DaoC, everquest)
we arnt getting the most innovating shizzle from most of the newer MMOs either.
look at vanguard - what i have seen is it a big copy+paste everquest 1, with some better graphics.
Age of Conan is probably the only one that has tried to come out with something different, but it doesnt mean its going to be better.

forexample adding housing to an MMO doesnt mean a better game - it just mean you have something more to waste your time with, in the game. and its not fun

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Originally posted by Formless
rule no 1:
dont write anything against the blind warhammer hype. all dark&light hype kiddys just moved right to here, so you will get massakred for saying anything else but "warhammer is going to be the next big (add anything random here) mmorpg"

they somehow like to take some random mmorpg and create a dream mmorpg in theyr mind with it. thus they also like to refuse very much to look at the cold, hard facts.
they choosed to do so with world of warhammer this time, dunno wich one will be next tough (last one was d&l).

best is to just stay away from this froum until the open beta test. the fanboys will wake up by then and move to theyr next big "dream mmorpg". you can loop this section ad infinitum.

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