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Originally posted by Distortion0

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Originally posted by Ariel
I came to MMORPG.com specifically to post about how utterly boring (or annoying) this video was. They proudly proclaim that it is all in-game footage.
This is two minutes of them putting together the most exciting footage they could find...and it's incredibly painful.

I would not be surprised if that video is removed from the website within a month. Of course the damage will be done, and a lot of us will still have copies of it.

This looks like a single-player RPG I would have played in 1994, probably on a console (except that I don't play console games).

The OP should make a poll.

Edit: Oops. Should have said I've played WFRP for about 15 years, and it is my favorite fantasy RPG. I don't play it that much, mostly I'm stuck playing D&D, but even so, I was ready to love this game. The original version of this game looked a lot more like the table-top RPG than this sort of hodge-podge of ... nothing.

I'd say this game will be the DDO of Europe: a big seller, yet utter disaster at launch. It will take 6-12 months to be a viable game.

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They're trying to show 2 things here. 

A. How amazingly fast they can build a game. They are a third of the way done already! Imagine how fast content updates could be done at this rate! Also this goes to show that the game isn't vapor. When they said the game would be done by next year from start to finish, everyone laughed.

B. Establish trust. WoW didn't show alpha footage. Connan hoards it's footage and info to reiculious extent. You can't find alpha vids of Vanguard OR ANY OTHER GAME ON THE MARKET! They're saying, "Hey fans, go ahead, ask us stuff. You want incomplete videos. Okay, we trust you. Here's what we got so far, even if it's not polished."

 

Honestly, yeah it wasn't interesting. BUT IT'S IN FRICKEN DEVELOPMENT! If you want info hid from you, then don't watch the game when it comes out. But I don't know how exsiting you want to be without the interface anyway. Go turn off the interface and watch a WoW vid or even a Connan vid(that is if you can find Connan gameplay)

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B. uhm... no?

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/media.html

check that gameplay trailer dated 2001. that is THREE YEARS before release.

Yes, the UI is not there, the graphics are a bit less advanced, but it is basically the same game.

I'm a great supporter of WAR, I love the concept and the stuff and i will still follow development and things, But even *I* think that video wasn't very good. The youtube ones are actually better!

the latter makes me think that was a dumbed down version specifically to show "hey! look! we have pvp!" so i've still wagonloads of faith in this game, but you have to admit the movie wasn't very impressive overall.

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Originally posted by scaramoosh

games do not change much from beta tbh.

 

 

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You're an R-tard, it's not in beta yet, it's in alpha... and yes they do change a lot in alpha and beta. And even if it didn't change at all it would still look and play a whole helluva a lot better than WOW.

wow's old screenshots were REAL funny :D

that was 1.5-2 years before WoW actually came out.
even the interface was rather crappy.

edit: proof: http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=1&Set=18

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Originally posted by Thedude-
Omgz, rz u hyping this shiat f0 real? That's just another WoW Clone! (See WoW Grinding Guide)

I'm sure all of u gonna play the beta.. another grindfest.. how's teh grind, how iZ it?

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 What did that video have to do with grinding? Nothing...you just tagged your pet issue onto a thread so that you could show us how good you are at 733t speak. When you grow up, you will look back at this way of typing with embarassment. If you are already an adult....you have my sympathy.

The game looks good to me, I'm more excited after seeing the footage than before, not sure why people are saying it looks like crap. What many people call cartoon-y graphics, I call stylized. I think putting a little art direction into the game makes it more immersive. EQ2 has some of the best graphics with some of the worst art direction, WoW has some of the worst graphics with some of the best art direction. As they smooth out the engine and start adding tone mapping and hdr and some other things, hopefully this will be a game with some of the best graphics and some of the best art direction. And if you don't agree with me you all suXXorz.

I found it hard to tell what's going on, I'd much rather have footage with the interface showing because that gives me a better idea of what the player is actually controlling; there's a big difference between watching an autoattack that switches animation and throwing different abilities. I'd also like some feeling of whether the fights are starting with wounded guys or if you can expect a whole fight to be 4-5 hits. It didn't turn me off to the game, but I can't see much to get excited about since I can't really tell what's going on.

I think it's kind of silly to complain about sound at this point, they don't usually finalize sound until sometime in beta since it's pretty easy to change later. Same thing with detail levels, early on they have graphics that are more of placeholders than what they'll end with.

EDIT: A big question of mine that probably won't be answered until beta is why the guys are standing still. Is there some reason in game to stay still, or are actual fights going to be messy circle-strafe extravaganzas like WOW? Personally I like less movement than WOW, it's just pretty hard to tell from video since players in promo videos tend to stand still regardless of what they do in a real fight.

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Originally posted by Thedude-
He Zargo, r u a converted rpglzi soul from south hampton or mississippi? Cuz u really sound like that huckel berry joe!

The video was FULL of grinding, of grinding those and these mobs over there without stopping the mouse grindfest of all. I rather go and play sum Zelda on my new Nintendo Wii FTW!!

eZe for teh mastah

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The video wasn't meant to make our eyes fall out due to its awsomeness. It was released to give us a feel at how the game is progressing. It showed dwarfs and greenskins fighting using simple attacks. And for a game in ALPA, I repeat ALPHA stage. It looks smooth, and they are proceeding ahead of schedule,which they have said many many times. And they weren't mobs. I am getting tired of ..people who don't know what thier replying about. That was a video of the development team fighting eachother, which they do almost every day to test the game out. Like I said it is in ALPHA, and shouldn't be that impressive, if anyone based thier opion on this..what was it two minutes of footage, then don't plan on going into the career of criticism.

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Originally posted by Thedude-
He Zargo, r u a converted rpglzi soul from south hampton or mississippi? Cuz u really sound like that huckel berry joe!

The video was FULL of grinding, of grinding those and these mobs over there without stopping the mouse grindfest of all. I rather go and play sum Zelda on my new Nintendo Wii FTW!!

eZe for teh mastah

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Originally posted by Distortion0
It was PvP, dumbass. Most people don't consider fighting other players 'grinding'. Maybe if they were NPCs but I think you missed the whole RvR of the video.

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