I read around a lot.  And' ive read on some 360 fan sites where WAR Is going Next-gen.
This been confirmed?

and 2nd of all... Do you guys care?

I wouldn't put to much stock in it. A lot of games say they will port to console and after the game comes out for PC you never hear about it again.

Here's the word on the subject from Mark Jacobs;

Source - http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=168387

And yes, personally, I do care.  I want to play this game with true MMO fans and PC gamers, not XBOX gamers who think they're badasses coz they're good at Halo.

asuperman quick question first, you from Beechmont?

Ok back to subject

Do I care if it was GOING to 360? hmmm

Well I dont care in one sense because I dont have a 360.

On the other hand, there is some sense of pride in owning a good pc and playing pc games.
Its kind of like, everyone and there mother has a computer and a nintendo. My rednecker brother in law has a 360 but he doesnt know jack about mmo's or computers or anything really computer related.

This is kind of how I see it. Everyone has a Mustang and I have a McClaren.
I dont really want the mustang nubs racing with me and the Mclaren/Bugati/Ferrari owners.

I know it sounds elitest and maybe it is because I feel like Im an upper class gamer :P
People who play pc games and even mmos can be big enuf nubs all on their own.
I dont need the Console Nubs joining in.

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Originally posted by logangregor

I know it sounds elitest and maybe it is because I feel like Im an upper class gamer :P
People who play pc games and even mmos can be big enuf nubs all on their own.
I dont need the Console Nubs joining in.

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I feel the same way. I think it is also the community. I left consoles because I don't like playing alone or against a computer. Single player games are not my thing at all. Even though consoles can play over the internet now adays there still isn't that same sense of community you get with a PC. I don't know what it is, maybe all the separates us from consolers is a keyboard and mouse.

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Originally posted by ConverseSC
There is no difference between the maturity of internet gamers and X-Box gamers.

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Maturity wasn't the issue.  It's the culture in general.  I have a PC, PS2, XBOX, and (up til I moved recently) Gamecube.  While I'm primarily a PC gamer, I've owned every major system available in the states since '85.  So I have nothing at all against consoles or console gamers.  My point is that my experience playing online with/against console gamers and PC gamers is two completely different worlds.  PC gamers are typically immersed in the history, community and technology of the genre itself whereas your typical console gamer just wants to get online to showcase his/her skills. 

I think a lot of it also has to do with how long online console gaming has been available.  MMOs have been on the scene for well on a decade, whereas online console gaming only really broke ground in the past couple years.  There hasn't been nearly as much time for the culture to develop as it has for online PC gaming. So while I'm fairly confident, playing on a PC platform MMO, most people will know what I'm talking about when I refer to other MMOs, use common gaming jargon or give instructions to a group, console gamers would just be confused as to what is going on.  Not because they're any less intelligent or mature, but because they are not part of the culture of PC MMOs.  That is my point. 

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Originally posted by ConverseSC
There is no difference between the maturity of internet gamers and X-Box gamers.
If you hold some inflated dellusion along the lines of this, then you simply have not played enough games.
No difference in maturity, hmm. I dont think I mentioned maturity as a reason.
I dont even think I hinted to maturity.

Honestly, the X-Box players and PC gamers wouldn't be on the same servers anyway, so I'd personally love a console port.  Actually its possible that pc gamers and console users WOULD be on the same servers if this were to happen. Supposedly Age Of Conan will be available to console and pc users on the same servers.

At this point in my life, computer gaming as a whole has throughly pissed me off with the constant adaptations and pricy parts. No, you don't sound elitist. Just stupid.
I wonder if this is where your "bias" against pc's come from and why you felt you had to defend console gamers and call me stupid.

There is a difference in players between console players and pc gamers.
Obviously its not a "maturity" difference or "inteligence" difference. Plenty of stupid and inteligent people play pc games and consoles. But "consolers" are at the very least more naive about the internet, mmos and the culture therein.

I think toby explained the difference much better than I could of hoped to.

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You wanna see the difference?

Play BF2 on your PC and then play it on the xbox. If you dont see the difference between those 2 communities then you are either not paying attention or brain dead.

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Originally posted by ConverseSC
Whatever, logan.  I don't know what you expected people to take from the
phrase "upperclass gamer", besides the fact that you are better than them. 

Can I not be honest without getting flamed? I thought we were in the circle of trust.
Am I not in the circle?

No, it's not possible that console and PC gamers would share the same
world, simply because the developers specifically said they wouldn't if
a console version was ever released.
No shit sherlock... I was just making the point that its "POSSIBLE".
And IT IS PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE.

I don't know why you'd assume WAR would possess same-server implementation simply because AoC does, but I fear the answer would only leave me sad and confused so I'll leave it be.  
First off, see above. Seondly, I dont assume that it will ever be on ANY console....EVER.

Yeah, console gamers have less experience with MMOs.  Let's KEEP
OUR GAMES AWAY FROM THEM!  Brilliant!  While we're at it, why not just
keep out all first-time MMO players to begin with?  We don't need to
waste our precious RvR on these "lesser gamers".
OMG /tear. You understand. You really understand me.
ITS MINES!! ME PRECIOUS!!

Your taking this way too seriously. I swear I can see you hyper ventilating as you typed out your response...asthma breather in hand, taking puffs between typing sentences. Me and toby may agree but were not the deciding factor to whether it will ever be on consoles, so why get so wound up about it. If at sometime in the future its released on console I wont lose any sleep over it.

And Im not saying Im RIGHT OR WRONG. The idea of this great game being tossed to a general population makes me nervous. I mean think about it for just one second, a general population that would be much worse than WoW's when it was released. /shudder Its a feeling I have...there is nothing right or wrong about it.

Toby..look, I'm not stupid. But you are very angry. I suggest a combonation of deep tissue massage, a Macrobiotic diet and some serious NLP.   I realize that the majority of console gamers probably have never played an MMO in their lives, and probably don't know the ends and outs of the way online mechanics work.  This however, does not mean we should horde away our games like trolls under a bridge so they can't defile them.  First of all, we wouldn't be playing on the same servers, so many of the problems you listed would be irellevant.  Honestly, if you have such a huge problem spending a few seconds to explain "MMO jargon", then perhaps you shouldn't be playing a community game?  Or perhaps you can simply go find someone who has played long enough to know these things, and stop discriminating agaisnt those who don't?  I don't know..I mean..I always found people asking me what shit meant ingame.  It was never a big problem.  Took three seconds to type out a small explaination and it felt good helping people.  

I just don't understand the logic behind what you guy's are asking for.  "They don't have experience playing our type of game, so let's make sure they never do!  Aha!" *begins twisting mustace*

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Originally posted by ConverseSC

Toby..look, I'm not stupid.  I realize that the majority of console gamers probably have never played an MMO in their lives, and probably don't know the ends and outs of the way online mechanics work.  This however, does not mean we should horde away our games like trolls under a bridge so they can't defile them.  First of all, we wouldn't be playing on the same servers, so many of the problems you listed would be irellevant.  Honestly, if you have such a huge problem spending a few seconds to explain "MMO jargon", then perhaps you shouldn't be playing a community game?  Or perhaps you can simply go find someone who has played long enough to know these things, and stop discriminating agaisnt those who don't?  I don't know..I mean..I always found people asking me what shit meant ingame.  It was never a big problem.  Took three seconds to type out a small explaination and it felt good helping people.  

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The psudo debate about what kind of people an xbox based mmo community would create... is irrelivant.

It's facts that matter. Everquest Adventures was tried on the console and it bombed. There will be no War for the xbox PERIOD.

-Syloc

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Originally posted by Syloc

The psudo debate about what kind of people an xbox based mmo community would create... is irrelivant.

It's facts that matter. Everquest Adventures was tried on the console and it bombed. There will be no War for the xbox PERIOD.

-Syloc

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just because one game didn't succeed on consoles do not mean they will never try again. After all FFXI was out for consoles before pc and that game is quite succesful (there is no data about how many subs are pcs and how many are consoles though, but a good mix is probable).

That is like saying "Dark & Light was an horrible game and bombed, therefore there will never be a Virtual World simulator type of game ever again".

Sorry, but your logic appear flawed. (Also EQOA was for the PS2, not for the X-Box)

Keep in mind the console market is H-U-G-E. 10 times bigger if not even more than the pc market, just check at some sales figures and notice how GTA sold like 65 MILLIONS COPIES before getting updated to AO rating?

So, the failures of previous projects WON'T stop companies from trying again. Nowadays, we are in a much better situation for it than past generation as all consoles come with internet connection built-in and most come with an hard disk, in addition adding a usb mouse and keyboard to one is no big deal, so bridging any kind of technical difficulties the consolers could have.

That being said, I could care less if they release WAR for the X-Box 360. I do not mind that much even if we would have united servers. I just hope we can have same language server though, playing with half players that speaks a language i can't even read, and can't understand what i say really suck big time.

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Originally posted by Syloc

The psudo debate about what kind of people an xbox based mmo community would create... is irrelivant.

It's facts that matter. Everquest Adventures was tried on the console and it bombed. There will be no War for the xbox PERIOD.

-Syloc

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Thanks for everyones insight.

I just recently picked a 360 up, and I"m interested in playing some Console mmo's.

especially WAR.
   If not i'll just pick it up for pc.