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WAR (Warhammer Online) Forum » General Discussion » Sorry GW2, Tera, and Rift, I am returning to WAR!

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  Eraserhead

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3/19/13 3:44:36 PM#41


Originally posted by Thane

Originally posted by marsmercer After having tried the above referenced games and having been left with a less than exciting experience. I am returning to Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning. WAR is the only mmorpg to give me those "Oh, $#!+" PvP moments. An honest feeling of peril and loss exists with every keep loss and battleground defeat. Players of the above referenced games should ask themselves, what is the point of our PvP? Where does it leave the world (in which we have chosen to escape) as far as consequence to our faction's side? Is their any win or loss consequence? Only WAR has provided that experience. Despite declining population, I choose to play that which is fun and not chase the next best thing. Otherwise, your desktop begins to look much like mine--until this very moment.
ermm... warhammer pvp... yeaaaa... idea was good but...

 

a) scenarios are a joke, they are designed.... flawed.

b) open world... rvr... if you like circle zerging, warhammer is your game.

otherwise everything after zone 2 was realy boring, sorry.



How long is it since you played? The game has evolved somewhat and there is as much if not more small scale open rvr roaming as there is warband scale. There is some zerging but it's not all there is to the game.

  aesperus

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3/19/13 3:51:51 PM#42
Originally posted by Eraserhead

How long is it since you played? The game has evolved somewhat and there is as much if not more small scale open rvr roaming as there is warband scale. There is some zerging but it's not all there is to the game.

Has the game really improved that much?

Last time I played (I wanna say... 6-8months ago?) The game was basically on it's last leg. There was some decent RvR action in T3 / T4, but the RR gear was all locked in a P2W type structure.

Zones were largely dead, and it was basically grind to get to T3, and deliberately stay there grinding RR before going to T4 (as most players in T4 now have insanely high RR ranks and the gear that comes with).

Scenarios didn't seem to ever pop outside of T4, and the RvR was mostly zerg play (unless you got lucky at the lower tiers and managed to find someone wandering alone).

Personally I don't always mind the zerg warfare, but what bugged me is just how static WAR has become. Last I played there simply wasn't enough people to have more than a warband of players on each side, so everyone just stuck w/ the main force until they got bored. I used to have a blast w/ WAR back in the day, but lately it just doesn't seem to hold a candle to other PvP games anymore. Has this changed? And if so, when did this happen / why the sudden shift? Did they add something to the game since then that has brought in new players?

  Eraserhead

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3/19/13 4:19:26 PM#43


Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Eraserhead How long is it since you played? The game has evolved somewhat and there is as much if not more small scale open rvr roaming as there is warband scale. There is some zerging but it's not all there is to the game.
Has the game really improved that much?

Last time I played (I wanna say... 6-8months ago?) The game was basically on it's last leg. There was some decent RvR action in T3 / T4, but the RR gear was all locked in a P2W type structure.

Zones were largely dead, and it was basically grind to get to T3, and deliberately stay there grinding RR before going to T4 (as most players in T4 now have insanely high RR ranks and the gear that comes with).

Scenarios didn't seem to ever pop outside of T4, and the RvR was mostly zerg play (unless you got lucky at the lower tiers and managed to find someone wandering alone).

Personally I don't always mind the zerg warfare, but what bugged me is just how static WAR has become. Last I played there simply wasn't enough people to have more than a warband of players on each side, so everyone just stuck w/ the main force until they got bored. I used to have a blast w/ WAR back in the day, but lately it just doesn't seem to hold a candle to other PvP games anymore. Has this changed? And if so, when did this happen / why the sudden shift? Did they add something to the game since then that has brought in new players?



I would have to say to anyone new or returning that you should aim to get into t4 and spend as little time as possible in t2 or 3. I started a new character a few weeks ago, I found t1 active and fun with open rvr and fairly regular sc pops. T2 much less so and I pretty much skipped t3 and just did band 2 scenarios until I got to r40 and rr70. That might not be how everyone wants to play but it's how I'd suggest doing it. You now have the option of using an xp stop book so you could stay in t1 below r15 and still gain renown ranks. For me the lower tiers were something to get past as quickly as possible and doing as little pve as you can get away with to get to the "main game" of t4 where pvp activity is always good.

The game changed in various ways both in terms of mechanics and how people play it. Nerfs to mechanics that allowed for mass aoe "bombing" changed warband scale rvr significantly. It also made the possibility of small scale roaming parties a lot more viable and being in a full warband not a necessity. The game isn't zerg free as inevitably players at different points will come to gather in certain places and times.

I left for gw2 for a few weeks and then returned and there was still enough population for open rvr and regular scenarios. Since then it has gradually climbed in numbers. There hasn't been anything added to the game that would cause it, I think it's mostly a case of people returning from new games that didn't match up to their pvp expectations. Just recently the wrath of heroes shut down along with a new live event and rr bonus has resulted in a noticable boost in player numbers. I play on the EU server so can't speak directly of the US one.

Edit: Didn't mention gear. The rr70 worn sovereign set is enough to get by with in T4. You can't do the highest tier sc until rr70 and you can stop xp at Rank 39 using a book pocket item if you don't want enter t4 rvr lakes until rr70. Also, you should never have to buy stuff for money. As for twinks, you come across a few in low tier but the majority are not high geared and I didn't find it much of a problem.

  Torvaldr

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3/19/13 4:21:31 PM#44
The population increase could be because of the buzz Firor and Jacobs have created with their upcoming games.  Just a thought.

Curse you AquaScum!

  aesperus

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3/19/13 4:37:54 PM#45
Originally posted by Torvaldr
The population increase could be because of the buzz Firor and Jacobs have created with their upcoming games.  Just a thought.

Definitely a possibility. I may have to give this another shot.

I did enjoy WAR a lot in the past, but I saw how it ended up.. so I'm a little iffy on returning. Plus I'd have to mess around w/ all the Curse crap again for the game to be playable (for me) again. Which would be a pain. I'd be pretty annoyed if I went back just to find it exactly how I left it (which seems likely). I am playing on NA, though, that could explain a lot of it. Games Workshop games have always been a lot more popular in europe over america for some reason.

  Mtibbs1989

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3/19/13 4:52:57 PM#46
Originally posted by marsmercer

After having tried the above referenced games and having been left with a less than exciting experience. I am returning to Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning.

WAR is the only mmorpg to give me those "Oh, $#!+" PvP moments. An honest feeling of peril and loss exists with every keep loss and battleground defeat. Players of the above referenced games should ask themselves, what is the point of our PvP? Where does it leave the world (in which we have chosen to escape) as far as consequence to our faction's side? Is their any win or loss consequence? Only WAR has provided that experience.

Despite declining population, I choose to play that which is fun and not chase the next best thing. Otherwise, your desktop begins to look much like mine--until this very moment.

 As much as I loved the idea behind Warhammer Online I don't think I'll personally return back to the game. It truly had the oh **** moments when I was PvPing and it was fun. However, there has been no additional content since the The Tomb of the Dead expansion was released.

 I heard that they'll be pushing to bring back the original Fortresses. Which is good, however I highly doubt they "fixed" the issue; so much as there's just so few players online that they don't have to worry about constant realm crashes.

However, if I were to go back to Warhammer Online it'll be if/when the game turns into a true F2P model. I don't believe Warhammer Online is valuable enough for me to contribute 15 dollars a month.


Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.

  Eraserhead

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3/20/13 11:05:09 AM#47

Knowing EA and also seeing what they have already done with purchasable stat boosts, the idea of F2P in this PvP game makes me too nervous. I don't believe EA care enough about how it will affect the game to not stray deeply into Pay to Win item shop teritory. If anything will ever kill this game it would be that. For this reason I really have to say I hope I never see the day WAR goes F2P.

  FromHell

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3/20/13 11:08:35 AM#48
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  Arcona

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3/20/13 11:13:23 AM#49
Originally posted by Loke666

all games that have done a good transition are PvE games. PvP games that are F2P tends to be a disaster since they sell gear that makes you better than anyone not paying.

 

Heard about League Of Legends? The biggest online game in the world.

  Nidwin

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3/21/13 10:00:34 AM#50
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989

 I heard that they'll be pushing to bring back the original Fortresses. Which is good, however I highly doubt they "fixed" the issue; so much as there's just so few players online that they don't have to worry about constant realm crashes.

 

Forts have been back for a long time now, with relics in them. The only issue with the relics is that a bunch of poopyheads can't help it to exploit/cheat with speedhacks to screw it up for everyone.

 

Sunday evening on Badlands, evening for me so afternoon US. Somewhere between 200-250 destro to push and lock Reikland for a Altdorf push. Not bad for a US server ouside US prime-time.

 

But go on talking about stuff you have no fucking clue about mate. But don't worry, this thread is full of poopheads talking about stuff they have no fucking clue about.

 

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  Nidwin

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3/21/13 10:21:11 AM#51
Originally posted by Torvaldr
The population increase could be because of the buzz Firor and Jacobs have created with their upcoming games.  Just a thought.

Or peeps are tired, bored of what they were playing as the shiny thing wears off and are coming back to war because it's what they actually always wanted to play.

Let's see what's going to happen after the GW2 WvW patch of zemortkitu when peeps are going to RvR in Aion mode.

  Nadia

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3/21/13 10:41:39 AM#52
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by Loke666

all games that have done a good transition are PvE games. PvP games that are F2P tends to be a disaster since they sell gear that makes you better than anyone not paying.

Heard about League Of Legends? The biggest online game in the world.

in fairness - I believe his comment was regarding mmorpgs

  Vymm

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4/07/13 8:43:01 AM#53

I came back to WAR as well this week.  It has best pvp right now a game can offer with modern day advances (DAOC, still probably the better pure PVP game).  I also find that most of my PVP friends are tending to venture back to it as a stopping place for (as people mentioned) the upcoming games.  I did play Rift for a bit and the PVP was fun but not many teams are focused on PVP that I could find.  Maybe I didnt look hard enough but not many were advertising to PVP only. 

 

Vymm

  MikeJezZ

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4/08/13 4:08:00 AM#54
Originally posted by Vymm

I came back to WAR as well this week.  It has best pvp right now a game can offer with modern day advances (DAOC, still probably the better pure PVP game).  I also find that most of my PVP friends are tending to venture back to it as a stopping place for (as people mentioned) the upcoming games.  I did play Rift for a bit and the PVP was fun but not many teams are focused on PVP that I could find.  Maybe I didnt look hard enough but not many were advertising to PVP only. 

 

Vymm

Rift is much like World of Warcraft:

 

PvE main game. PvP mini side game.

 

I still wanted to get back to WAR Online.

 

Tried it not so long ago. Very dated graphics. Cities feel dead. No friends playing anymore.

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