Originally posted by 0over0

I dropped a sack of potatoes the other day and you know what I got?

Some really tasty mashed potatoes!

The more I see about AoC the more I want to save my 40$ for Aion or Spellborn when they finally come out. War Im not to sure about... AoC is kinda sitting badly with me for various reasons.

Have you actually played the beta? I have and what a disapointment.  I felt like I was playing EQ all over again with the loading screens.   Graphics, quests, areas all unimpressive.

What really disapoints the most is taking a Great name "Conan" attatching it to a video game and unterally mucking it up.

No wonder Conan wore his crown on a troubled brow! 

Originally posted by Phaze7

Have you actually played the beta? I have and what a disapointment.  I felt like I was playing EQ all over again with the loading screens.   Graphics, quests, areas all unimpressive.

What really disapoints the most is taking a Great name "Conan" attatching it to a video game and unterally mucking it up.

No wonder Conan wore his crown on a troubled brow! 

 

Sorry, but that is only your opinion, you are the minority, and frankly no one cares that you don't like a certain video game, get over yourself. Almost everyone I know loves the game, and is planning on buying it. That's not to say there isn't bugs and performance issues(this is beta, and we all know how bad beta>launch transisions are), but seriously grow up and go find a game you actually enjoy. No one will think less of you if you don't sit at your computer and bash age of conan, I promise.

Originally posted by pandrax

...you are the minority, and frankly no one cares...

Originally posted by Gishgeron

 

  It would appear that there is some confusion as to what MMORPG's are all about.  Somewhere in that confusion...WoW has apparently ruined something in order to appeal to almost every last available gamer on the market?

  I have a different theory...these raid games have ruined what MMO's are about.  They have turned what SHOULD be interactive worlds where each person is both an individual AND a member of a society into slot machines that you pay for in blood and time.  Oh, and you have to fill out applications (literally) to get into good guilds whom then dictate your time FOR you to play.

  There is no living world...there is no society.  There is only the guild, and the raid, now.  We've traded off fluid virtual content for this stupid raiding crap.  Now all of my virtual society is locked away inside a boss room.  No butchers, no bakers, no candlestick makers to be found here.  They are all subsidized into their guilds and dominated by the time restrictions placed by its high council.  The only time you see these players is when they are standing around towns waiting for the next raid...showing off.  They aren't interacting at ALL.  Or, worse, you find them at the wrong end of their epic weapons in what Frankenstien monster form of PvP the game has....further removing the interaction, because they don't NEED to interact with you.  You are weak, and useless, unless you are a slave to their system.

  EQ can die in a fire for what I care.  Their ideal of what an MMO is has ruined any hope of seeing what an MMO can truly be.

The voice of sanity lost in the crowd

I have been writing pretty much the same thing for years.

The battle for actual MMORPG's was lost a long time ago, the old guard is gone now. It's funny how all of these games are based on a single mechanic these days. Kill your 10 rats then raid.

MMO's will continue to become more compartmentalized, more specialized and more cost effective (instancing) I'm also predicting micro payment driven opposed to monthly sub. Pretty much the opposite of what they started as.

Originally posted by pandrax

Sorry but Aoc doesnt require a monster machine.. you can buy a pc from walmart for 500 dollars that will run AoC on the highest settings if you spend another 2-300 dollars ona 8800GTS. so for 800 dollars (even cheaper if you looked) you could get dx10 fullsettings(minus bloom/AA). where is this monster machine you say you need again? 

 

 Most people don't realize that your video card is going to be the main issue when it comes to AoC, if you have a x1300  you could play on medium settings. Trust me, I know :(

 

FYI, my spec is:

 

AMD athlon 64 x2 4600

4 gigs pcr4200 ram(CHEAP ram)

512 mb radeon x1300 overlocked.(2-3 year old card..)

 

guess what? I run on medium settings at around 30-40fps.

This is wrong, i have a better system then you all around and i have crappy performance on low settings. I ve said it a million times it s random on what systems it will run well on. They have ALOT of work ahead of them if they plan on a decent release.

Originally posted by altairzq

Have you been reading the AoC forum? I never thought things would look so bad for that game. I bet this has a lot to do about WAR release being posponed, they knew they were safe making this move.

 

It's looking very good for WAR, the more I look at it, the more I feel WAR will be a huge succes, I mean by the milions, maybe a few milions but that's a lot, maybe really hurting WOW if it is good enough. Sadly by good I mean appealing to the masses, this is the only fear I have.

... he he he ha ha ha HA HA HA

The very lastest version of AOC (patched) looks awesome, runs smooth and is incredible fun.

I think the light for WAR just turned red. Mythic really has a challenge now.

I am playing AOC on a Dell m1730 with dual 8800gtx and the 9000 extreme processor with a steady 8mb connection and playing capture the flag was unplayable - 5 - 15 fps. Worse than SWG used to be, worse than EQ2 at highest settings. Very disappointing. The released product needs to be much better if it wants to be a success.

I am a little put off by the lack of movement during melee animations too, I felt stuck to the ground, unable to dodge, or run around the player as I attacked. Not to mention the camp cloaks and the terrible voiceover. when the flag is captured/dropped.  Plus, the flag sticking out of the back of the player as he runs with it. Come on, are there really no other ideas they can think of for fun pvp? 

sigh... next! > war...

I think both will have their followers (I'll be in both camps myself). The AoC patch from yesterday should show some very nice performance in a lot of folks systems (or at least a lot more than before) and I suspect that after this weekend's opened up PvP and the screenshots/movies that come from it people are going to salivate even more.

Originally posted by soulrevolver

I am playing AOC on a Dell m1730 with dual 8800gtx and the 9000 extreme processor with a steady 8mb connection and playing capture the flag was unplayable - 5 - 15 fps. Worse than SWG used to be, worse than EQ2 at highest settings. Very disappointing. The released product needs to be much better if it wants to be a success 

I know people with shit systems that get a steady 30-40 fps. Either you didn't play after the latest patch .. or your system is screwed up.

Your hardware seems really inline with the requirments of WAR. I hope it was worth the money, since you are planning to play
a game that looks worse then WOW, with ugly  hand made animations that looks like a game from 2003.

Originally posted by Crusher

Originally posted by soulrevolver

I am playing AOC on a Dell m1730 with dual 8800gtx and the 9000 extreme processor with a steady 8mb connection and playing capture the flag was unplayable - 5 - 15 fps. Worse than SWG used to be, worse than EQ2 at highest settings. Very disappointing. The released product needs to be much better if it wants to be a success 

I know people with shit systems that get a steady 30-40 fps. Either you didn't play after the latest patch .. or your system is screwed up.

Your hardware seems really inline with the requirments of WAR. I hope it was worth the money, since you are planning to play
a game that looks worse then WOW, with ugly  hand made animations. 

we all want a GOOD game to play.  good means it plays well on that person's computer.  good means it's FUN.  good means it's NOT a j.o.b.  good means that it's FUN.

why all the 'us vs. them' mentality?  are aoc servers going to war with war servers or wow servers?  fanboi-ism is dead.  fanboi mentality is the same sort of thinking that causes dogs to poop, smell it, think "hmm food" and then eat it.  THAT is what a fanboi does.

we don't need fanbois.  we don't need 'us vs. them' in the player world.

if there's problems with a game for some players, it's an 'us (players) vs. them (game company)' thing.

that is ALL there is.

anything else is wrong and probably a fanboi, like what i described.

i despise games with "end game" raiding; because it's a cop-out on the part of the gaming company, it's a timesink, it's BORING, it forces me to hang out and listen (on vent/ts) to basement dwellers and children whine about mommy for hours on end.  but if some people like that, fine, whatever.  but, i can't tell them they're stupid for liking it.  i CAN believe they're stupid for liking it; but, if THEIR game is jacked and they're unable to play it -- i should support them in wanting to be able to play the game THEY enjoy.

Originally posted by needalife214

WAR gets posts every day by AoC fanbois and haters   we are used to it....  i ignore them or counter their claims with facts....people will enjoy AoC...people will enjoy WAR...its what ever .... however i have a feeling WAR will have a better Open Beta then AoC is having right now

Well keep in mind that AoC's "open beta" costs money to get into so it's not technically open.  You have to subscribe to fileplanet just to get a chance to download a key.  Seems kind of shady to me.  WAR's open beta should be better because they postponed in order to make sure that the game was more complete.  I'd be very disappointed if it turns out not to be true.

Ok your all wrong about having to pay for open beta. you can download it at file planet for FREE but you have to wait in a que to download it (paid members dont have to wait in que). just make an account (the free one not the paid upgrade). i downloaded it for free, i just had to sit in que for like 5 hours lol but i still got it.. an uninstalled it about an hour after i downloaded it.. but still i got it.. FREE:P