Hi there I've played Aeria's most popular recent MMO Shaiya for a long time, stopped about 4 months ago, im curious if this Project manager represents the Shaiya section of Aeria or if it's completely different, because shaiya for me is a great game, fantastic community GM's seem friendly, GS's friendly. So im guessing this corruption hasn't been passed on to Shaiya thank god.  But LC is a no go for me, if the Project Manager doesn't show respect for his/her staff, no way in hell (s)he will respect the gamers unless as said previous they hand VISA written across their forehead.  I give you a thumbs up and a pat on the back to post this and reveal the Aeria's: Last Chaos true colours! You got my support!

That's one huge overreaction. Literally.

You're taking it far too personally for this to be a matter of truth. All in all, the dramatic original post was entertaining, but only as truthful as entertainment could be.

@abentwookie

Yeah, it's crappy what happened, but let's be real... all F2P games are crap! Yes, everyone can reply saying F2P MMO A, B, C...Z is great but sorry, they aren't.

If they don't generate income from a regular monthly subscription they have to go get somewhere else, who pays for the server rentals? who pays the developers? and so on... They're all about making money, and I'll be damned if I was paying thousands of dollars for some virtual items (I can't say this without laughing so hard my lungs feel like they're gonna explode) I would expect to have some sort of privilege over players who don't pay jack. I'm sorry, but that's the way the world works... If I pay more that makes me a better customer (in their eyes) than someone who pays less or nothing at all, If I'm a better customer I deserve  better treatment... this isn't exclusive to Games, it's called the economy. (not trying to be sarcastic... but I'm also an idealist myself... and sometimes you have to realize some battles are just impossible to win)

Regarding one example you stated as a F2P MMO that isn't like LC, Perfect World... I'm sorry but if you haven't seen the same crap happening there then you haven't played enough time... I sure did and believe me it's not great, the big item mall shoppers get a lot of "special treatment".

Bad rating on a company also means nothing to me... NCSoft is rated F and I'm playing Lineage2 since the Beta, I played Aion in the CB, OB and 2 months of sub. And when GuildWars2 comes out I'm seriously thinking on buying it... so they can say it's the worst MMO company... I don't give a crap... some of their products are good (imo ofcourse) so I'll keep giving them my money. Same thing with Aeria, the only way they could go down is if what happened to you and your friends happened to regular players on all their MMOs everyday... that isn't the case I guess?

@johnmatthais

Man, you reached incredible levels of douchness... who are you to say that she can't reply or she has to stop... you're basically as whiny as you're stating her to be. And you're really making yourself look as bad as that ks guy she was ranting about. I'm sure your gonna reply... "ohhh yeah, well I don't give a crap what people think of me... I say things as they are", yeah that's what all idiots say so they look real badass.... *sigh*, read a book or two on arguing skills 'cause you sure need them.

Originally posted by Revenus

What I don't understand after reading the various groups and posts on this;

Only now that someone lost their job do your friends admit there was wrong doing at the hands of Aeria?  

Your friend acknowledges that they knew about hacking, paying off CGFs with AP, knew about players getting hacked but did not divulge such ghastly information until this the very last straw?

That seems a bit sanctimonious ;)

I gotta go with this response, too.

From reading through that big ol' wall of text, the impression I got was that all these GameSage guys were well aware that all this dodgy stuff was going on, but the only time that they actually decided to do the right thing was when they themselves started to feel the pain of it.

I'd have some healthy respect for someone who went public when they found about all this hacking and corruption, but failing to do so until after you've been banned?

Kinda takes the whole "righteous indignation" away, from my perspective.

Don't get me wrong .. these Aeria Games guys do seem like tossers, but the GameSages hardly seem to be shimmering images of angelic purity either.

I was never really keen to try any game from AG ..but this post has just ensured I never will

So I think the Op has succeeded in making sure at least one person doesn't support the company

From the Ops post I find the way AG has dealt with staff to be reprehensible and unacceptable and on principle I won't support any company like that
 

I usually try to avoid Aeria Games threads... but I will throw out some generic remarks.

1. Spamming a site with insults to the staff, and the community will most likely result in a ban... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it generally is not allowed.

2. Telling other community members that it is ok to break the rules (for any reason) will most likely result in a ban.... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it is generally not allowed.

There have been many statements made about the staff, and how things work in Aeria Games... but no one has really asked. Heck, I am even seeing people go off and trash people who have not been in Aeria Games for a long while...

As for corruption issues... well, just like any conspiracy, it is not that people plot to do wrong, it is that people dont know what is going on, and it appears that many people are coming forward to say that they knew about problems... but didnt tell anyone. So, the only clear conspiracy is that being shown by the people that are complaining...

I agree that the truth is out there... and that it is pretty easy to find... but that it isnt exactly what you are claiming it to be...

 Moral of this story is:

The amount of work you do and rewards you get, are proportional to the amount of ass you kiss.

Originally posted by abentwookie

 

Hi everyone. :) For those of you that don't know me, I am abentwookie from Last Chaos and other games. If anyone here actually played the game some of you may know me as GameSage Groove (formerly) or NerdRage. I am here to discuss the truth about a situation involving this truly horrible and corrupt company known as AeriaGames.

 

Before I get into this I want to apologize in advance for posting such a long message but some things need to be said about this disgraceful gaming company. If even one person is considering playing a game published by this horrible company and I can change their mind, then I did my good deed for the day. :)

 

If you want to know more about this crappy company, feel free to go to the Krash Facebook Suppport Group we made to support our favorite former GameMaster and get out the truth about Aeria's lies. www.facebook.com/group.php

 I am also working on an Anti-Aeria website with a forum for people to freely speak their mind about bad experiences they have had with Aeria.

 

I spent two years playing Last Chaos and at one point was one of its most loyal players before things started going down hill after they hired a new Product Manager for Last Chaos. Before I get into this I should explain a few terms so everyone knows what I'm talking about:

 

A GameMaster is one of the people that runs the game and they are paid employees of Aeria Games.

A GameSage is a volunteer position held by certain players that are voted for by the community and GameMasters. Their job is to pass along RT numbers from players to GameMasters, hold events in game, help players with questions and problems, find hackers, silence goldspammers, and many other things. The GS position is a massive amount of work, believe me. They don't get paid actual money but they get free monthly AP (Aeria Points) to use to buy things in the Item Mall. So the position sometimes attracts people who are in it for the AP and not to help the community.

And the Product Manager (aka KSilent) is in charge of everyone.

 

I was a GameSage for over nine months before being suspended for "being too negative" regarding the path AeriaGames and its new product manager, ksilent, were taking with the game. I was told I could come back to the GS team after a few months but said no because I didn't want to work with Ksilent, especially after he claimed I didn't do anything as a GameSage. And of course he said this after only being with the game for less than two weeks. lol So I posted a goodbye thread on the Last Chaos forum and told people what happened, which resulted in tons of posts from Sarissa (my server) players and the rest of the community supporting me and telling them how much I did for the players. So naturally the thread was removed to silence everyone. lol Ksilent has a history of trying to hide the truth from people. I was told by another GM that I would be allowed to come back to the GameSage program after a few months but I turned it down because I didn't want to work for a person like KSilent ever again after he insulted me the way he did.

 

After the incident I decided to take a little break from LC but eventually came back after a while. When I came back I decided that I was going to play the game with my friends try to ignore Ksilent. I managed to do that pretty well until last week.

 

I came online to discover that the best GameMaster (Krash) LC ever had was leaving AeriaGames and later that night I discovered WHY he was leaving. I started getting messages from several people who told me that Krash had been fired and Ksilent was involved. And after talking to the right people, I discovered it was true. At this point, my days of ignoring Ksilent were definitely over because he had crossed the line this time. He can say what he wants about me but when someone messes with a friend, I become the most ruthless and relentless person you'll ever meet. So I immediately went on a rampage against ksilent and was immediately perma-banned by him and my posts were deleted.

 

Krash was the most popular and best GM Last Chaos ever ever had and did more for it and the community that people like ksilent ever will. He treated players like actual people and not just credit card numbers. He put more effort into his events than any other GM. He was always hanging out with players in the shoutbox and chatting with us. And when I was a GameSage, I could always count on him to help when I had a problem that I couldn't solve myself. I think its safe to say it would be nearly impossible to find someone who would have something negative to say about Krash, other than possibly the hackers that he banned.

 

So for them to fire him so suddenly like this shows exactly how little AeriaGames cares about their employees and the community. We're all just numbers to people like Ksilent. And Krash was one of the few that actually gave a damn about the community.

 

Needless to say, my reaction wasn't pretty. lol Krash had asked me not to do anything to get myself banned but anyone that knows me will tell you that once the fury starts, its already too late. :P I have no ability to edit what I say once I become that angry so I just completely went off on my old friend, kSilent. I publicly called him out and challenged him to be a man and admit what he did in front of the community. lol After I had gathered some support from other players in the shoutbox, he finally appeared. As expected, his response was a perma-ban for myself and one of the others. No chance of him being a man like I suggested. ;)

 

After that two popular GameSages (KayFromHell and Sabbath) started speaking out publicly, only to have their posts deleted and accounts banned like me after being thrown out of the GameSage program. He even called Sabbath a disgrace just for speaking her mind. Then he went on a rampage, quickly banning anyone who dared to say anything about the subject publicly, including two more GameSages, Serafina and Isador. He also banned Fentanyl, one of the highest ranked Titans on the sarissa server, for something he said about Ksilent in private guild chat, which had never been done before in the history of the game. And many other members of the community were banned as well for voicing their opinion about Ksilent's actions. Since Ksilent fired Krash and went on this powertrip many high level players have either been banned or quit the game as a result of these actions. Anyone that posts something on the forum about it gets their posts immediately deleted and their accounts banned. Ksilent is scared to death of the truth getting out to the community but its already too late for that. lol

 

So now LC is quickly dying because the community has had enough. It was actually dying for abour the last year or so but Ksilent is really helping to speed up the process now. A lot of players have left for other games like Aion, WoW, Perfect World, etc...

 

Don't waste your time or money on this game. Any former high level player will tell you how messed up the game is and how corrupt Aeria is. Since Aeria hired a new Product Manager (Ksilent) for LC the game has gone downhill pretty fast. And firing Krash was just another stupid decision made by this person. Krash spent years trying to make Last Chaos better for it's community but in the end was suddenly tossed aside by Aeria like garbage.

 

The game itself has reached the point where leveling to the cap (which is at 165) is nearly impossible without spending THOUSANDS of dollars or an insane amount of time. Someone said it would take about seven years without buying tons of AP. One of the small number of people that has reached the lvl cap each time its been raised literally spends around $100 a day to accomplish that. And before you can even START leveling, you have to spent a long time farming for Skill Points. Again you have the choice of spending a small fortune to buy the AP items to make it easier or you have to spend a crazy amount of time SPing before you can even begin to level.

 

And the game is riddled with bugs, the pvp castle sieges are messed up, each class only has one race and gender available to it, and it has a new insanely over-powered class. Instead of fixing the problems, they just continue adding new stuff. And they don't listen when testers tell them there are problems with the new stuff so they just add more and more bugs to the game. Its just become a waste of time, especially when Aeria continues making horrible decisions that effect the game. The only redeeming quality is the wonderful community in the game. They are the only reason I continued playing the game for so long.

 

The corruption and lying is a serious problem... I witnessed plenty of it myself from the inside when I was a GameSage. Hacking is against the rules unless you spend a lot of money on AP, then you basically get a free pass to hack. Sorry guys, I kept silent about this for too long. Several huge AP buyers had hacked in the past and been given their accounts back. Account sharing is also a bannable offense and many people have been perma-banned for it, yet some of the big AP buyers get their accounts back anyway after they account shared. In fact, Ksilent knows of certain high lvl people (AP buyers of course) account sharing right now and has done nothing about it. There have been countless examples of people providing solid VIDEO proof of people cheating and whenever its a big AP buyer nothing ever happens. And the corruption that goes on involving castle siege? Yeah, its true. They do pretend certain things never happened when I've clearly seen myself that they DID happen.

 

Want to see some proof of Aeria's corruption and lies??. Here is some from another former GameSage and one of its most popular, KayFromHell. She posted screenshots and chat logs of some of it.

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The following is a message that was posted (and quickly deleted by Ksilent) by KAYFROMHELL (Former GameSage on Katar) on the last chaos forum.

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To all of you:

I got IP banned right after I spoke to you guys,on sunday night, at 00:45 PST. I got the notice on 3 accounts in the same time. That's how they silence us. Keep in mind what I told you. And they just proved my point. This post might be deleted or moved as soon they will see it....so take a screenshot of this post if you want to pass the message to others.So please do it quick!! Also save the pictures from the links!!!!

I, KayFromHell, been a player for 2 years on LC, and a complete year as a LC GS. For a year I reported players hacking this game, saw them come back after only few days, I had to fight to get GM support and the only ones who really helped me were GmKrash, Stratos and OgreKing. Without Krash, the game will go downhill because he was the only one fighting for the GSes, he was trying his best to help us, and they fired him like he was nothing for AGE, after 2 years of hard work for them.

Nobody asked me to do this. I created my own rebellion. I went on Katar 1 sunday night to speak the truth about those facts:

-Yes, the GSes are getting paid in AP every months. I could say several of them are in the program for the AP since anyway you can't grind if you can't afford to buy 300$ worth of stuff for a level. But we had to lie about this. But I got several times 20k ap per month, it's the limit we can have. It's the price to lie for them and run the events THEY should do, doing THEIR customer support and keep YOU in game.

-Yes, AP buyers are controlling the game. According to your budget, you cannot be banned more than 24hrs. In the worse case, it will be a week. So if you spend money on this game you can dupe,hack, cheat, scam. As long you buy AP, you are safe.

- Remember the hacking issue on H and K server guys? They were aware there was a hacker and they did nothing. For a complete day they could have done something. Instead, they were blaming a stupid expo. You got hacked and you never spend money for AP, say goodbye to all your efforts. But if you are a 5 star customer, no worries, you will have your armor back and all your stuff. But for the others.... So I been giving my own stuff to hacked players several times, using the GS AP to fix their mess so many times...

- YES. They hacked Stratos. And we had to lie about it. There will be a link of my YIM logs at the end of this post. So the ppl who got banned because they were trying to prove this in the shoutbox were only getting silenced.

- We, testers, warned them about the Roy issue when the auction house came out. They were aware the players could find a way to dupe the items. They sent the auction house anyway on the live server while it was known it would be a mess. Same thing for EP2 patch, several glitchs been reported and they let the patch go live anyway without fixing them.

- They know who been duping. But they were AP buyers.

-They kicked a GS for inactivity because he was in the army. But there is GSes who don't run any events, does no support, pass no RTs and they are still around. That's a bloody WTF. And the one helping the community, like me or Sabbath, get removed.

-Aeria_ks1lent. The biggest doubleface of them. This is how he treats the GSes. Click Here. With his lies, saying they ban hackers and gold buyers when we all know it's lies and more lies...

-Kali. Put a 21 years old girl in charge and see how chaotic it becomes. She is in charge of the GSes. She's supposed to support us and help us. What do we get ? Nothing, she can't answer to our questions, she can't control the GSes meetings so she had to call JediMike to observe what was happening and she don't give a fk about us. You wanna see how it is to be a GS ? CLICK HERE. We can't get announcements, we can't have GM support if she is not on. See the list of the ppl we could contact. This email been sent last month. We were not allowed to ask Krash anything or it was a strike. And he was the only one helping us. That's the power of the GSes now. They are chained and have to say what s1lent want us to stay. Kali have no clue about the game at all, she plays Aion, along with s1lent.

The GSes won't be able to tell you that I am right, or they will get banned. And some of them are so stupid anyway they don't realize what company they represent.

sanjose.bbb.org/Business-Report/Aeria-Games-and-Entertainment-241000

This is the BBB for Aeria Games. Feel free to comment and spam them.

Abentwookie, you gave me inspiration for something. And I am sorry, I apologize, you were right. But it's too late now. I had to say it.

I met awesome people in 2 years in Last Chaos. The ones who knows me know one thing : I am always honest. I am making this post so you, the players, the top spenders, the friends I have, know the truth about this company, and their cr4ppy management. I lost my account already anyway, well, 5 of them. So this is my gift to the community I helped the best I could : the truth.

Links: Proof that Stratos got hacked
i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/metalkay/Stratoshacked.jpg

The super rules the GSes have to follow, and in bonus, Kali's email.
i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/metalkay/GSrules.jpg

How s1lent treat a year old GS when she was only saying her opinion
i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/metalkay/gs.jpg

Stop buying AP. Leave LC. Leave them in their own sh.it ! Get your friends with you. Keep this precious time for something else. AGE don't give a d4mn anyway about you guys, and the GSes are only toys they can replace at their will. My friends, it was a pleasure to be with you for 2 years. But the frenchie is now gone.

* LOL * While I was writting this post, my new account got banned for spamming when I never did anything with it yet HAHAHA : See it here lol
i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/metalkay/Bannedagain.jpg

So, for you, Keith, who will delete my post, I send you my best regards:

 

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To sum up what we both said, stay far away from Aeria Games. They don't give a damn about the games, the players, the GameSages, or even their own employees. Trust me when I say their "D" rating with the Better Business Bureau is well deserved.

Goodbye Last Chaos....

 

 

What does it say about you??? You were willing to take AP to keep there little secret to yourself as all of the GS do.

Now that they ban you now you want to get all hoiler then now and go on a rampage about AG.

You helped build it now you live with it...

Originally posted by Superman0X

I usually try to avoid Aeria Games threads... but I will throw out some generic remarks.

1. Spamming a site with insults to the staff, and the community will most likely result in a ban... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it generally is not allowed.

2. Telling other community members that it is ok to break the rules (for any reason) will most likely result in a ban.... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it is generally not allowed.

There have been many statements made about the staff, and how things work in Aeria Games... but no one has really asked. Heck, I am even seeing people go off and trash people who have not been in Aeria Games for a long while...

As for corruption issues... well, just like any conspiracy, it is not that people plot to do wrong, it is that people dont know what is going on, and it appears that many people are coming forward to say that they knew about problems... but didnt tell anyone. So, the only clear conspiracy is that being shown by the people that are complaining...

I agree that the truth is out there... and that it is pretty easy to find... but that it isnt exactly what you are claiming it to be...

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Wow did I call it or what..lol what a tool.

Guess your plan for free labor didn't isn't going as smoothly as planned. Well you know the old saying, you get what you pay for. You guys abuse your players and abuse your free labor, you didn't think there was going to be a backlash. You sit up there in San Jose with your smug attitude letting assholes run wild while taking a shit on anyone who speaks out. You and your company get everything you deserve. I know your answer is to just ban everyone(which I also called again because you are so easy to read) but you won't learn your lesson and just repeat the same mistakes over and over again.

Also don't you think it's time to let everyone know you are an Aeria shill when you post? I mean you come on like some random fan, but you keep trying to push your company's agenda in certain posts. Might as well be honest about so people don't get pissed when they find out what your position is with Aeria games. At the very least you should say that you are currently involved in the MMO industry so that your posts reflect your perspective/bias.

Oh well I had a good laugh from this thread at you and your comapny's expense. You'll wipe the slate clean by getting rid of these people that spoke up and move on(also lol for banning people that post on outside boards, ow petty can you get?), but you won't stop them from saying what's going on and hoopefully that will encourage people to avoid Aeria games like the plague. Since you aren't going to learn respect for the players you try and squeeze money out of every day, this solution seems much more fitting. Wonder if you'll get so bad where you'll have to schedule emergency meetings like Nexon did begging people to come back and not use private servers, honestly I don't see that day too far off for you guys. But wait, I guess you guys would rather have meetings on switching some of your games to hybrid so you can grab money up front and never have to deal with customer service issues right?

Also if any other Aeria or former Aeria employees/players/ free labor want to psost here, I would love to see this keep going. Busting this guy's chops always turns my frown upside down'

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All I got out of that entire wall of text was:

A above water version of a iceberg story

You're only telling the masses what you want them to hear. So you made some comments or protested some injustice with AG over what a new PM said about you and got demoted from your free meal ticket. And so you say you walked away (with no ill-will) to be on your merry way.

Then out of the blue this guy cans a messiah of a GM (cause the community says so) for being a little too close to the community (without divulging into what exactly he did). And in order for us to actually believe that, we would either have to ask ourselves: Is the canned GM offering a candid version of his removal or are you filtering what you are hearing because of the previous chip on your shoulder. I have to know full disclosure of a few things before I jump on any bandwagon:

1. Why was the previous PM replaced?
2. What did you actually do/say to get demoted?
3. What did that GM actually say/do to get fired?

That GM was a PAID employee of AG and lost his job for something other than just because he was well liked. If being a GM is anything like being security personnel, then he would know that there is a fine line between customer support and fraternization. The first involves knowing your limits and sticking with them. And the other is knowing your limits and crossing the line from time to time to appear empathetic to your customers (whether to garner positive feedback for services rendered or buff up that image for top brass).

We don't know. But what I did take from your continuous bullish tactics is that YOU were capable of making lives of anyone who crossed you a living hell (by your own admission). I don't know if you used these tactics on the customers you served but I do know that they were there long before you became a GS and apparently well after. You know there is a old saying that I carry with me to remind myself of the ease of abusing my authority:

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."~Abraham Lincoln

I believe that test came to you and instead of walking away,  you got your friends involved and got them either fired, demoted or banned as well. You knew the game and you dealt the cards. But while most of us know that the house is one thing you never bet against, you thought you could take it simply from the speck of power they once gave you.......well played....

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by hoopty

To the OP

I can see where you are coming from..Allot of these folks dont care to much about f2p games..We all ready know how terrible they are...This community is mostly hype on P2P games its more for our buck..

 

Well, if you worked for virtual items, you probably couldn't afford a P2P game either!

Sheesh. Look at it from the OP's point of view. See above marked in yellow..

 

If i was a girl,I probably make more cash in one night then you can all week..I dont think money is the issue with her to buy a game or not or afford a P2P..

So, you're calling her a lady of the night?

 

That's a little harsh.

Anyone who takes Ap for free and told to be quiet about the dirty secrets behind the closed door...Then come out later because something wasnt right..I would say 2 wrongs dont make a right...

Everyone has a price even you...

 I'm personally hoping to see the other side of the coin.

Meh I though LC was a piece of crap of a game anyway, prob be better if the game goes bye bye. But the stuff they pulled with people who worked/voulnteered for them is fairly unfair.

Don't kid yourself. If it was dead then you'd let the thread die after your first post. I'm 100% not positive that you, as a volunteer worker conducted and handled the matter in the most appropriate and adult fasion... as your pictures of girls flipping the bird clearly show. The fact that you state you traded out your time and silence in exchange for in-game money says a lot about your character. The fact that you state that you were fine with all the exploiting of the community and the game, up until this guy personally pissed on your parade is sad. So to retaliate, you spam forums about your ordeal to win more sympathy.

I'm sorry, I have none.

Originally posted by Lansid

Don't kid yourself. If it was dead then you'd let the thread die after your first post. I'm 100% not positive that you, as a volunteer worker conducted and handled the matter in the most appropriate and adult fasion... as your pictures of girls flipping the bird clearly show. The fact that you state you traded out your time and silence in exchange for in-game money says a lot about your character. The fact that you state that you were fine with all the exploiting of the community and the game, up until this guy personally pissed on your parade is sad. So to retaliate, you spam forums about your ordeal to win more sympathy.

I'm sorry, I have none.

YOU CAN'T SAY THAT! YOU'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS! SHE NEVER AGREED WITH IT!

/sarcasmoff

Gah...she just doesn't get it. =P

Originally posted by WeaponX

 

What does it say about you??? You were willing to take AP to keep there little secret to yourself as all of the GS do.

Now that they ban you now you want to get all hoiler then now and go on a rampage about AG.

You helped build it now you live with it...

Yep, that pretty much sums it up right there. By your very own admission Abentwookie you are here posting (and posting on the Aeria forums) only because they fired a buddy of yours, had they not done so you would have been happy to maintain the status quo, keep all the dirty secrets that you seem so up in arms about now, collect your AP and cover your eyes.

You really need to remove that "Cloak of Righteous Indignation +5" it is a poor fit .

Before I respond, let me make something perfectly clear to Brian and his fake accounts: WE ARE NOT EVER GOING TO STOP spreading the truth about Aeria, no matter how many shills or alt accounts Aeria sends at us. You can cry and whine for us to stop all you want but it won't happen so deal with it. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read the thread. Its that simple. And you better get used to it because we will be posted this on hundreds of game sites. ;)

To sum things up for everyone who obviously didn't read through my entire original post.

* Aeria is corrupt and they lie to the players and its not just a single person (me) saying that. Its a long list of former well-respected GameSages and high level players.

* This isn't heresay. Its not one person's word against another because we have posted actual PROOF (sorry, the chatlogs and screenies don't lie, supes) of what Aeria does. Has Superman posted any kind of proof to defend Aeria? No and you won't see it because it doesn't exist. lol

* They fired the one GM that was respected and loved by the community I can promise you that if you ask anyone in the LC community which GM they trusted, it would be Krash every single time. And while you're there, ask if anyone in the community would risk getting their accounts banned for any of the other GMs like they have for Krash. After they are done laughing at you, their response will be something like, "hell no." And if you ever talked to Krash privately, he would always tell you like it is. He wouldn't lie about things like Superman and Ksilent do.

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[Originally posted by Agrona

WOOOOOOOOOOOKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG Girl, I heard what happened and this only confirms that I did the right thing of quitting my GS position and leaving this game for good!

I can't believe all the other old time GS's that decided to stay. After what happened to Kiki, I would have left without looking back. I'm in touch with Chuggy and Isador, who both were banned. I'm thinking of making a major stink, and when I get a perm ban, I will move on without EVER looking back.

I always knew that KS1lent would be BAD news for LC and AGE. He and even Ogre, run that place like a freakin' prison.

I'm glad you made this thread. Someone has to speak out and tell the truth about Aeria games. That company is the worst of the free MMOs out there! I will delete any AGE game that's installed on my PC.

Wookie, you still got me on YIM, right? I'll log in and get in touch with you and Kiki!

Much Love and Hugs!!
Aggy

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Aggy!!!!! I've been trying to get in touch with you. lol I still have the same YIM so message me. :) Yeah, it seems some GSes decided that getting their free monthly AP was more important than doing the right thing and standing up for Krash and everyone else. Some (like Faenwyn) have even become attack dogs for Ksilent. Several high level players that quit have put a 3.5 billion gold bounty on her head for anyone that takes screenshots of them killing her mulitple times and says something like "Quit kissing ass" lol

Btw guys, Agrona is another former well-respected GameSage that quit because of Aeria's bs. One of a long list of us that left the GS program.

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Originally posted by Superman0X

I usually try to avoid Aeria Games threads... but I will throw out some generic remarks.

1. Spamming a site with insults to the staff, and the community will most likely result in a ban... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it generally is not allowed.

2. Telling other community members that it is ok to break the rules (for any reason) will most likely result in a ban.... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it is generally not allowed.

There have been many statements made about the staff, and how things work in Aeria Games... but no one has really asked. Heck, I am even seeing people go off and trash people who have not been in Aeria Games for a long while...

As for corruption issues... well, just like any conspiracy, it is not that people plot to do wrong, it is that people dont know what is going on, and it appears that many people are coming forward to say that they knew about problems... but didnt tell anyone. So, the only clear conspiracy is that being shown by the people that are complaining...

I agree that the truth is out there... and that it is pretty easy to find... but that it isnt exactly what you are claiming it to be...

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lol Good one, Brian. That made me laugh. No, you don't try to avoid Aeria related stuff Supes. You're always the first shill they send when someone badmouths Aeria somewhere. *rolls eyes*

1. What about saying things about the staff PRIVATELY IN GUILD CHAT? lol Fentanyl got banned for saying Ksilent is a tweed in our guild's private chat. Since when is that a bannable offense? And since when is emailing the link to our facebook group to some friends a bannable offense? Several of us have had our accounts banned and messages deleted from people's inbox for that.

2. I didn't have to tell the community to do anything. Most of us have made our own choices and the right ones. lol

The claims of lying and corruption are a conspiracy?? lol I was waiting for you to play that card like you always do when people question Aeria about something. Okay if this is all just a conspiracy and not true, then you wouldn't mind giving straight answers about a few things would you?

* Are you denying Krash was fired?

Superman's Predicted Response: I'm sorry, we can't talk about former employees.

* Are you denying Stratos was hacked? You guys tried to cover it up by LYING about it but we posted the chat long of a GM admitting it happened. lol Talk about self-ownage...

Superman's Response: I'm sorry, we can't talk about current employees.

* Are you denying all of the claims that guilds have used exploits at DCS and nothing has been done about it? Remember the whole uproar over a guild using exploits at DCS on C server? They posted screenshots AND videos of it clearly happening. I was even there with an alt character the following week to see it myself and TOLD you guys about it. Yet again, nothing happens. And there have been countless videos posted on the report behavior forum of people exploiting and hacking, yet nothing happened whenever it was a big AP buyer. Heck, there was a video of Divinity exploiting at DCS posted by bubba and it was clear what was going on. AGAIN, nothing was done. If this is all just a conspiracy then please explain away these facts. I know the community would LOVE to see an explanation.

Superman's Response: I'm sorry, we can't talk about exploits.

* Are you denying that GMs know about certain AP buyers account sharing and do nothing about it? Because there is a rather public example of Ksilent KNOWING about it on the forum right now. lol

Superman's Response: I'm sorry, we can't talk about account issues.

Carefully watch superman's responses and you'll figure out which one of us is lying: the community or him. ;)

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Originally posted by WeaponX
What does it say about you??? You were willing to take AP to keep there little secret to yourself as all of the GS do.
Now that they ban you now you want to get all hoiler then now and go on a rampage about AG.
You helped build it now you live with it...

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Wow, like I said, you guys are responding without even reading what I say. Like i've said TWICE now, I never kept any secrets myself. Even Superman will probably tell you that I have always publicly held AGE accountable when they do something wrong. I had plenty of public arguments with Superman and the others when they did something wrong. I never covered up anything for them, I spoke the truth even when they didn't want to hear it. Go ask the LC community about me.

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Originally posted by bigdaddysfe

Wow did I call it or what..lol what a tool.

Also don't you think it's time to let everyone know you are an Aeria shill when you post? I mean you come on like some random fan, but you keep trying to push your company's agenda in certain posts. Might as well be honest about so people don't get pissed when they find out what your position is with Aeria games. At the very least you should say that you are currently involved in the MMO industry so that your posts reflect your perspective/bias.
Oh well I had a good laugh from this thread at you and your comapny's expense. You'll wipe the slate clean by getting rid of these people that spoke up and move on(also lol for banning people that post on outside boards, ow petty can you get?), but you won't stop them from saying what's going on and hoopefully that will encourage people to avoid Aeria games like the plague. Since you aren't going to learn respect for the players you try and squeeze money out of every day, this solution seems much more fitting. Wonder if you'll get so bad where you'll have to schedule emergency meetings like Nexon did begging people to come back and not use private servers, honestly I don't see that day too far off for you guys. But wait, I guess you guys would rather have meetings on switching some of your games to hybrid so you can grab money up front and never have to deal with customer service issues right?
Also if any other Aeria or former Aeria employees/players/ free labor want to psost here, I would love to see this keep going. Busting this guy's chops always turns my frown upside down'

:) <-------- see

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lol Yeah, anyone who knows Brian, expected his to get involved. I bet his next move will be to tell the remaining GSes to come on here and bash us. lol

And you're absolutely right. Since some people seem to think its just me against Aeria, I think its time to get other former GSes and players to speak for themselves. Don't worry, no matter what happens we won't let this die down. I look forward to debating Supes many times on another forums. lol

Originally posted by abentwookie

Before I respond, let me make something perfectly clear to Brian and his fake accounts: WE ARE NOT EVER GOING TO STOP spreading the truth about Aeria, no matter how many shills or alt accounts Aeria sends at us.

Um, I am very sure that most of these posters are themselves, they are just the types to chew you up regardless. You worked for the machine, therefore you must be sacrificed for carousel.

 This thread is going absolutely nowhere now. Everything here is turning into a "he said she said" argument. To be perfectly honest, I won't be surprised if this thread gets locked soon, you've got something of a witch hunt started now.

So all I have to say is, quit sounding like a fanatic and get on with your life.