I used to play L2 for almost 3 years, from level 0-max, lead guilds and seen it all before Chronicles 4 came out.  I quited somewhere just after  C4 was released.

Lineage2 has more races, but that does not matter because ALL the races in the game can be all buddy buddy anyway, L2 should have had just one race.  When I started L2 years ago, all races where in their own towns to start, and we would run fa to the other race cities and wage mini wars, it was fun as hell because they were not Dark Elves! they were of a race undeserving! lol.  When I made it to the next city, all the races were together and even guilded together.  The game lost all sense of lore and story.  Orcs vs Orcs, humans vs humans, Elves vs elves, dwarves vs dwarves...and on the flip side the same, but all allied.  The game was a mess and made no sense.  There were like 100 guilds on a server and almost every one of them was the same, all mixed races and all griefing for castles.  In that game it did not matter if someone left a guild for another one, because every guild was vertually the same anyway, just a different name and some different personalities.

L2 is a Korean grind game that made it big, only because of a decient lag server and nice graphics.  Bots owned and still do, own the servers, aside from the forever dominating alliences that one sidedly rule the server they are on.  PvP is all gorilla warefare when it comes to massive fights and castle sieges.  PvP on the field best turns into powerhouse grief like killing.  Pvp in L2 is only fun when its 1 on 1, or 2-1 and everyone decides to go honest purple (pvp fair fight mode).  Lineage 2 eats you alive when you are new, you must buy game money with real life money just to keep up with the game.  Veteran players are assembled into that mold and get used to it and they very much realize to play the game and run with it, you must pay more than the monthly subscription.  Players know this and the farmers know this as well, its a circle of profite and entertainment.

At castle sieges, lag can get pretty bad as 100-300 players can be in the same spot at the same time fighting.

In ArchLord, its the same, 2 races less, everyone starts in their race specified towns.  Once they leave town they get divulged into the other races of the game.  I am not ceratin about this part, but it looks this way.... that all race types may join the same guild.  I could be wrong, but it looks this way.  If so, this game will flop in lore and story just like Lineage did.

Graphics look good, mabye slightly better than L2.  Armour and wears are much more detailed and complex.  Scenery is nice.  This game will win over the graphic lovers for sure.  Here'in is the big pull, just like L2.  Once you get into the game, you will be playing L2 all over again, massive grinding mobs all day, "some" quests, and greifing will surly be a factor of the game.   ArchLord is a game for griefers and PvP'ers.  The games goal is of the nature for Greed.  A fight to be a god.  I just know botters and farmers will stick to this game like glue to, the system is almost just like L2, thus bots surely will arrive.

ArchLord is not an innoventive MMO, it is a safe MMO, the same as many others that have came out in the last 5-10 years. (laughes) its basically a blue print of other games, like L2 and Wow, where they just add some tweeks and spices along with tech advancments, as time does go on.

L2 had castle sieges, this game will have massive war zones.  You will have alliences vs alliences on large battle fields, rather castles.  That will be the only difference, also ArchLord will have some better server ability in these large scale battles for lag, that is the other only difference.

Like L2, there is no end game factor.  To be the next ArchLord! lol, forevermore!  The point for large scale wars, is to be the next god and be allowed to literally destroy and piss of hundreds of other players, who are your enemy.  Great game....... ;(

I've seen it before, this is a grinding, griefing... forever of forever game, just like many Korean games out there, but looking just as good as Lineage2.

I've been a fan of linage2 and still am, even though I wont waste my time with that dull game anymore (in system nature).

Surely I will give ArchLord a try and if things seem like there is more a point to playing, or to the story and lore of the world and its races... I may keep playing.

What do you guys think of my post?

Like I just got done saying over on the ArchLord boards in response to this exact same thread, as well as said in another thread here just a few days ago...

Lineage 2 = Lineage 2

ArchLord = ArchLord

When you've played ArchLord then feel free to say it's a clone of this and that.

*Agree with Ides*. Now that looks dumb to post this on any board you find? Well, test it and then you can write it again. ;)

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Originally posted by DarkEyesX
greatwulf= the same very rash that bacame larger and blistered where I itched so hard that I bled and blood came out, now everytime I sit down I get ass burn and people think I am a 90 year old man with hemeroids....  I just tell them my hemeroids= both AdesofMarch and greatwulf together.

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Good comeback...? I won't participate in your little flame war. You can do that ingame, I'm sure.

(takes a bottle of wiskey and sticks a papter in it, and sets it on fire) 

"Flame War!!"

(throws a bottle at hexthem4n's head and it explodes!)

(lights another one up and throws it at Mr.ofMarch... he runs around on fire screeming like a.. like a... well like a pig on fire)

"now you equil the result of a flame war!"

Yes, you can do your little flame war here. Prolly no one will notice. Whatever, hf.

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Originally posted by DarkEyesX
greatwulf= the same very rash that bacame larger and blistered where I itched so hard that I bled and blood came out, now everytime I sit down I get ass burn and people think I am a 90 year old man with hemeroids....  I just tell them my hemeroids= both AdesofMarch and greatwulf together.

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By the looks of your replies, I doubt any1 would believe you have the maturity age of 90, even if you do have
haemorrhoids*. Also, learn how to write these fancy words if you gonna try to flame  peops with them.

As for your views of Lineage2. I also have been playing this game for years but have a different view on the matter. Firstly, you DON'T have to use real life money to purchase in game goods, you suggest that you cannot progress without doing so. I know many people that have never bought adena such as myself, and we are quite able to acquire equipement through hunting in the right places, with the right parties, and also being in a good clan really is a must if you want to progress in Lineage2. On the other hand, your statement about the hardcore grinding which takes forever and the abundance of farmer/botters is correct. These people are the ones that spoil the game but the cause for them are the adena buyers, such as yourself, so you have only yourself to blame for them. If you don't have the patience to play a game as it should be played, then don't bother playing it and definately don't bother writting a post about how rubbish it is when you don't seem to ever have tried to play it the proper way. And no, you don't get ganked/pked or griefed as soon as you start in a starter town, if you do, your just a little unlucky to come accross a childish player that wants to kill low level players 'cause they not good enuff to kill higher lvl players, it really isn't that bad. The other big problem in Lineage2 is NCSOFT's very relaxed attitude to botters, and this is why a new game such as Archlord, that looks and seems closely matched to lineage2, is going to be closely monitored by many of the "legit" players of L2.

And finally, your post about races sticking with races and sholdn't be fighting against each other is an interesting proposition. If this was the case it would make for a totally different game. It's impossible to say whether this would be better or not. But it would get a little boring for the dwarfs who only have 2 classes and even the orcs with only 4 classes imo. Still, would be interesting to test it out.    

I wonder how you know if you didnt even test it out, rofl I am a hero in L2, and I think this game is nothing alike, I am level 78 fortune seeker subclass 1: storm screamer level 78/ and second subclass level 72 SWS.

I belive this game is way better than L2, I dont know why u see this game same as L2. Here is all different.

BTW cant wait for it come come out, L2 is getting old and boring.

(chases Golthan into his mothers house and up to his sisters room, where he now resides because his sis moved on in life)

"flame war"!!

(lights another bottle...and well you know)

BooM!!

(stuffs Keteman in a bottle and sets it on fire... then throws it as his own mother)

"Flame war at its best!"

Golthan, I dont think L2 was the worst of mmo experiences, but yes I know much was wrong with it.  Aisde from its system that game was glue to me and many others, its tough to stop sniffing it, lol.

I've been reading some of the flamers reports up above, and where I may agree at some points, I still feel more or less that AL = L2, for the most part.