Originally posted by Guintu

 

Originally posted by CherokeeRain

Archlord is a loser...as are most free games because you stand a huge chance of getting hacked in these games.  There is no safety net to prevent hacking and if your system does not have good enough security..you will surely get hacked.  There is also the giant problem of the farmers...gold sellers and griefers all over making the game a pain in the arse to play.  The "game" itself is good...just not playable as a free thingy.  I now prefer to spend money each month join a game that I know will not have hackers. Even though I have awesome security... it still makes me upset.   

IMHO the idea of a free game is rediclous anyway since in order to play well...you really need to spend money and in "free games" you will spend lots more then if you are paying a monthly fee.

My opinions :).

 

Are you joking?  I guess you haven't played Lineage 2 which has tons and tons of farmers and bots and hackers.  Even WOW has bots and such.  I don't think there is a P2P game out there I've played that doesn't have bots and hackers in it.  Just because a game is pay doesn't mean its free of hackers and bots, pkers and gold farmers.  If you want a game that has no cheaters then you have to get in on it early on before hackers make the bot programs and such otherwise your stuck.  Free or not there people out there that just can't help but cheat and screw things up for everyone who wants to actually play the game. 

 

Archlord does have its problems though, I admit that.  They brought it out to early and with tons of bugs so people didn't buy it and now that its free people play but if they think its worth their while to fix it they will, if not then they'll loose all their players and they'll take the game down.

Very true. Hackers and bots are in every mmo, just more so in some than others. Most of the free ones are the most  heavily plagued by bots though, mostly because they are free and you can get multiple accounts. Wow is pretty bad, simply because of the sheer immense size of the subscriber base that gold sellers have to market their wares to . Not much of a bot problem in wow mind you, though I'm sure there are some, but gold farmers and griefing is a big problem.

Gold farmers and bots can be seen in every single MMO; it's just a matter of time before they appear in new games too. And they're everywhere, because all games have lazy ass individuals that prefer to buy stuff, instead of getting it through legit ways. So it really doesn't matter if the game is F2P or P2P, in both cases there are paying "customers". Now IMO the only ppl that advertise this "P2P are better because they're bug and problems free" are the ones payed to advertise the P2P game system (which is currently taking a huge blow from all these item shop based games); any honest uninterested player knows the truth: playing a P2P game does not guarantee a botter free environment; and in every single MMO the things that can offer you the upper hand in the game are sold for good (and often real) money. You might get more stable servers, but even that is not guaranteed 100%, so...

Originally posted by dragulea

Gold farmers and bots can be seen in every single MMO; it's just a matter of time before they appear in new games too. And they're everywhere, because all games have lazy ass individuals that prefer to buy stuff, instead of getting it through legit ways. So it really doesn't matter if the game is F2P or P2P, in both cases there are paying "customers". Now IMO the only ppl that advertise this "P2P are better because they're bug and problems free" are the ones payed to advertise the P2P game system (which is currently taking a huge blow from all these item shop based games); any honest uninterested player knows the truth: playing a P2P game does not guarantee a botter free environment; and in every single MMO the things that can offer you the upper hand in the game are sold for good (and often real) money. You might get more stable servers, but even that is not guaranteed 100%, so...

I totally agree with you.  I could never cheat on a game because where would be the fun in that.  I do get bored of MMO's quickly because every one is the same in game play.  Now one thing I will say about P2P is that if there is any revolutionary game play it will probably come from a P2P company first because they have the 10's of millions of dollars to take a chance on a game.  Conan, War, Stargate Worlds and Star Trek online will hopefully be those revolutionary games.  If any of these games have really different type of combat and different ways of play then these ideas will trickle down into F2P in the next set of F2P games in a couple years or so.  Even games like APB and Huxley sound like they may have some possibility.  We'll just have to see.  One time this isn't true is with Voyage Century which I think is a lot like Pirates of the Burning see...and Voyage Century is F2P.  Sure there may be some differences here and there but for the most part they seem the same.  BUT then again Voyage Century is just a F2P version of Bounty Bay which is a P2P game.

Originally posted by KrAzYBLADE

I agree with most of these people here, there is alot of bugs, there is alot of spam bots. I see at least two everytime i play with names like "jhykji" and the ignore feature doesnt work against these "Shout" msgs. I still like this game, will i ever use my real money to buy anything from archlord or codemasters? NO! I hope codemasters wake up and don't act like k2 networks... they only care about the money.

Yeah. Wish that ignore feature worked. Spam bots wouldnt be so bad then. Some kind of anti-bot/hack system as well NEEDS to be added but yea... all in all.. i think its mostly greed that fuels Codemaster.. the game its self is fine(overall) dont get it twisted...

you can run a few quest that give wonderful rewards and xp, you can PvP in a number of places, includding arenas. Last i checked it use to crash at random when you talked to a NPC. I dont know...

The game is still very much playable and fun but it has some pretty annoying stuff in it as well that if you just cant look over at times... it'll probably get to you.

Pros:

Outside of that, shout is area based so you probably wont see spam-bot messages everywhere, i've never crashed while leveling and the crafting skills and game play is fun... xp at higher levels is a bit troubling but most games are. so meh

Originally posted by Guintu

 Are you joking?  I guess you haven't played Lineage 2 which has tons and tons of farmers and bots and hackers.  Even WOW has bots and such.  I don't think there is a P2P game out there I've played that doesn't have bots and hackers in it.  Just because a game is pay doesn't mean its free of hackers and bots, pkers and gold farmers.  If you want a game that has no cheaters then you have to get in on it early on before hackers make the bot programs and such otherwise your stuck.  Free or not there people out there that just can't help but cheat and screw things up for everyone who wants to actually play the game. 

 

Archlord does have its problems though, I admit that.  They brought it out to early and with tons of bugs so people didn't buy it and now that its free people play but if they think its worth their while to fix it they will, if not then they'll loose all their players and they'll take the game down.

Tru

I have played ArchLord from beta and I must admit that I really liked the game from the start. I have long since stopped playing due to the game having me grind too much. Also the XP penulty really turned me away as well. I don't really enjoy dying once just to know that a few hundred monster kills went to nothing.

On the technical side, I never seen any problems. Sometimes I was not able to login, but I was never kicked off or lagged too bad. Once I remember there was an issue that nobody could walk but since then it has been resolved. I do think that the game should have stayed in beta for a little longer.

From my stand point, the game seems alright. Its just not my cup of tea.

This game is still alive? Har.

This is one of the few games that was too boring and grindy even for Korea. So Codemasters ported it over and tried to charge people $50 for the box and $20 a month. After it went F2P I stopped paying attention.

Unless something's changed, nothing has changed since Beta. The game is still full of bugs, crashes randomly, and worst of all, has sex-linked race/classes (all three of them).

The game concept itself is flawed. Potion spamming is the only way to kill anything, to the point where they have an autopotion slider. There is no magical or skill based healing for anyone. You basically have a choice between warrior, archer or mage in either human or orc. Unless you play a moon elf, then you get to choose between mage.

Originally posted by Draq

Unless something's changed, nothing has changed since Beta.

The RMT spammers owns this game and after 6 months of playing it's just a major headache. You can't put them on ignore or block them in anyway. The 3rd party farmers is just as bad. The free to play means you must pay out the nose at a tune of 100$+ per month to get anywhere. As far as I can see it's just a bait and switch scam.

does the walk through any wall work still work?

when I played in beta I figured out hwo to walk through anything buy spaming W and clicking, for instance waling thrugh walks and into the water, that was fun :P

but the game in beta had no forum for bug reporting so I'm wondering if it's still possible.

Today during the castle siege you couldn't even move the lag was so bad. It's sad that the dev's have given up on this game, as it seemed somewhat promising from its beginning.

Yeah,I was a hard player of archlord before as well and really loved the castle sieges...the thing is that the castle sieges are amazing.BUT its true that it gets stuck and lags ..its a huge problem but no other game has a cástle siege so thats the great thing about this game...lag is huger during the castle siege but it gets smaller after a lil while.there is nothing to do untill they even try to fix it,lets hope for the best.

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Originally posted by Erkib
Yeah,I was a hard player of archlord before as well and really loved the castle sieges...the thing is that the castle sieges are amazing.BUT its true that it gets stuck and lags ..its a huge problem but no other game has a cástle siege so thats the great thing about this game...lag is huger during the castle siege but it gets smaller after a lil while.there is nothing to do untill they even try to fix it,lets hope for the best.

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See lineage II, they were the first to make truly epic sieges. Archlord tried to copy the model and failed miserably because they could not/will not optimize the lag.

I've been playing Archlord for about four months now, the only lag I ever have is duringa seige and this only lasts for the one hour that the seige goes on for. As for various bugs I'm always hearing about, I haven't really come across them. I've heard seldom of these bugs and don't really hear many people complain about them. It's more so a group of certain people saying the same things over and over and making it seems as if there's a bigger problem then there really is. Lag also has to do with your own computer. If your machine cannot keep up to the graphic settings and such, then of course you have issues.

Yes there are bots and farmers every where, and the best way to deal with them is just kill them on the spot. Usually if you do that they'll just lay on the ground for the next few hours whilst the person who had set them up is blissfully un-aware their character is getting nothing more done then when they orignally left the computer. The game isn't really as bad as stated in the original post. The PVP system is rather fun, I love the skills too. Watching people go one on one is quite fun as is participating in the battles yourself. 
Once your 35+ the combat can be very fun and leveling is quick up until the fifties. I'm only 45 on the game as of this post, but I can't complain about it. The only thing is PKer's and those can be dealt with if you're in a good guild.

When it comes to Chantra Shop items, I wouldn't know because I'm not one to use my money on a game where as I can just keep playing for free and have the same opportunities as those with Chantra. The only thing about Chantra is that it gives level 30's the ability to beat down some one ten levels higher then them. It makes combat one on one and endless med waste untill one of the others gets sudden lag and can't heal or if a friend jumps in and helps out.  I do know there are many bugs with the chantra shop though and that they aren't actually being dealth with. 

Stay away from Chantra or just buy it from other players and you really don't have that many problems with Archlord other then getting an hour of immovable lag every other week.

I believe Karusho's  summary of the game to be the most accurate thus far. To further support what he said, the game is mediocre/decent, not utter trash like the haters are making it out to be.  I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the mmos that are worse than this title. I understand if the game isn't your cup of tea, cause let's face it, it's a grinder like all f2p mmos out there, and if you're not into this style of mmo in the first place, simply stay away. There are people like myself and others who enjoy the game, and wish to discuss it with each other, only to have someone jump in the middle and tell us our game is crap.