tbh TCoS had nothing unique at all,nor innovative except their wheel system...

story? same old same old

levels? same old same old

classes? same old same old

not gear based? ok,not many RPGs go for this,some did before tho, and now are dead....do i see a pattern here?

PvE? same old same old, just even less than the norm

i wish the TCoS players could pull their heads out of their asses for a second and realize that their brilliant claims of how terrible day it is today are pure crap. TCoS was a fairly average title, from gfx to PvE to story, awful PvP, any redeeming quality.

Their only innovation was the wheel combat,and for each guy that liked that concept, 1000 disliked the whole idea.....

who cares it is innovative when its an epic fail the vast majority hates... a broom up your ass is an innovative fashion concept,but i doubt it catches in the runways :D

So you suggest for us dummies who really thought that TCoS was and still is innovative, to forget about it and go play a game that truely is innovative like Aion, or War, or AoC? Or maybe even WoW ? (yea, that is sarcasm)

Spellborn is not only innovative in its gameplay, but it simply is different than any other game you can find. "Different" games are getting so rare in the mmo world, that you guys can't even enjoy it when it's there, and that's the real shame.

Originally posted by noterc

So you suggest for us dummies who really thought that TCoS was and still is innovative, to forget about it and go play a game that truely is innovative like Aion, or War, or AoC? Or maybe even WoW ? (yea, that is sarcasm)

Spellborn is not only innovative in its gameplay, but it simply is different than any other game you can find. "Different" games are getting so rare in the mmo world, that you guys can't even enjoy it when it's there, and that's the real shame.

i never mentioned those games, if i had to name one i'd say Savage 2, with all its flaws its billions of times more different to the rest and innovative than TCoS.

and at least WoW and Aion do ye gud olde stuff well, something that TCoS missed by a mile. double fail is fail

for some reason i will never understand TCoS players selfappointed some kind of "elite" status for liking that garbage, and considered themselves the climax of good taste and "think out of the box"...when the game has generic,unchallenging, uninteresting PvE, awful cookie cutter classes, your typical-dime-a-dozen "epic story" , beyond pathetic PvP arenas...and what else? right, nothing

different...innovative...what a joke

Game is average at best. Characters look awkward. Their graphic style is a combination of Tim Burton, Asian, and Warcraft/Warhammer.  Gameguard turned me off very quickly. I had to create an entirely  new WIndows user with antivirus off and several other services disabled just to play. It also didn't run particularly well on my gtx280. That being said I didn't get deep into the game, but first impressions are everything with the current mmorpg customers.

Originally posted by arcdevil

Originally posted by noterc

So you suggest for us dummies who really thought that TCoS was and still is innovative, to forget about it and go play a game that truely is innovative like Aion, or War, or AoC? Or maybe even WoW ? (yea, that is sarcasm)

Spellborn is not only innovative in its gameplay, but it simply is different than any other game you can find. "Different" games are getting so rare in the mmo world, that you guys can't even enjoy it when it's there, and that's the real shame.

 

i never mentioned those games, if i had to name one i'd say Savage 2, with all its flaws its billions of times more different to the rest and innovative than TCoS.

and at least WoW and Aion do ye gud olde stuff well, something that TCoS missed by a mile. double fail is fail

 

for some reason i will never understand TCoS players selfappointed some kind of "elite" status for liking that garbage, and considered themselves the climax of good taste and "think out of the box"...when the game has generic,unchallenging, uninteresting PvE, awful cookie cutter classes, your typical-dime-a-dozen "epic story" , beyond pathetic PvP arenas...and what else? right, nothing

 

different...innovative...what a joke

Did you even play the game? Or you maybe tried it and found you lack "gud ole stuff" like autto attack at lvl 3 and rage quit? Only good thing I see about WoW is that it somewhat keeps kiddies on one place instead having them pollute some other games.

Calling a game "garbage" without obviously having a single clue about it says more about you than the game and community you try to spit on.

G/Day and It seems Spellborn will be off line soon.  Just spent a month lvling up, getting comfortable with the rotating Skill deck and oops, another one bites the dust.  Back to Conan The Barb. and some pvp for now.  Spellborn had some definite problems with lag time between portals (mind numbingly slow) offen to the point of disconnect. Lack of weapon upgrades in lower lvls, armor strickly for show, quests requiring covering same ground repeatedly, etc.  Skill sigils where really only effective at end game, but Bodyslots were highly effective.  Cartoon Avts.  However, great scenes, and I was enjoying it.

MattPaw

Originally posted by Cybercat

Did you even play the game? Or you maybe tried it and found you lack "gud ole stuff" like autto attack at lvl 3 and rage quit? Only good thing I see about WoW is that it somewhat keeps kiddies on one place instead having them pollute some other games.

 

Calling a game "garbage" without obviously having a single clue about it says more about you than the game and community you try to spit on.

 

i dont play WoW, and i did play TCoS. and "gud ole stuff" involves a bit more than autoattack,like a decent PvP system, or working skills, or meaningful-challenging PvE, or a damn endgame

but if you played TCoS i doubt you can understand what  "gud olde stuff" means since TCoS had none of that...actually had none of anything but crap.

now all your baseless assumptions missed the mark, please feel free to get back to your usual failing.

Originally posted by arcdevil

Originally posted by Cybercat

Did you even play the game? Or you maybe tried it and found you lack "gud ole stuff" like autto attack at lvl 3 and rage quit? Only good thing I see about WoW is that it somewhat keeps kiddies on one place instead having them pollute some other games.

 

Calling a game "garbage" without obviously having a single clue about it says more about you than the game and community you try to spit on.

 

 

i dont play WoW, and i did play TCoS. and "gud ole stuff" involves a bit more than autoattack,like a decent PvP system, or working skills, or meaningful-challenging PvE, or a damn endgame

but if you played TCoS i doubt you can understand what  "gud olde stuff" means since TCoS had none of that...actually had none of anything but crap.

 

now all your baseless assumptions missed the mark, please feel free to get back to your usual failing.

Such an angry little boy arent you?

Here is another assumption - none ever took some trouble to teach you the difference between the facts and opinion.

The fact - Spellborn is dead, have some decency and let it rest in peace.

Opinion - you think the game is bad, I think its good. The only proper way to express your opinion to matter anything is to have respect for other peoples opinions, even if they disagree with you.

The only real failure I see here are your manners.

 I called this after playing the game during the free release week.

Chance of success in this business is quite low, and the economy certainly is squeezing the less profitable titles out of the market.

The thing is I see a far more heathly place in the market for this game over soo many other subbed games, I just feel that they suffered greatly from poor decisions and publishing at the start, when things are so important and they never really recovered from it.

Add this to the situation stated from Kyleran and you are just asking for trouble.

 Well.. here we have to blame the publisher, and the really strange "release". 

If you call "release" releasing the game in 2 countrys .... in a total random way. 

I knew this game will not be very seccessful, the time that I was beta testing this game, there hardly any people outside. the game combat system get boring after a while. this game should not hve gone p2p anyways due to how much this game has not gain much fame, and how... boring it get's.

i doubt i'll ever understand why people on these forums take such glee in the failures of games they dont even play.

didn't like a game?  great.  i'd hope you'd have something better to do with your time than attempt to annoy those players who don't agree with you.  

i hope that those of you getting a such a kick out of this game's demise will learn to have your own opinions someday, without needing to validate them by belittling and denigrating those who dont feel the same.  you like something?  great.  let your OPINION stand on its own merits.   i'd like to remind people how boring this world would be if there was only one type of music, one type of movie, one type of game and one type of taste. 

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i loved spellborn.  it was visually stunning, had fantastic, fluid combat, a very intelligent skill system and one of the best video game soundtracks i've ever heard.  fast paced, cleverly written and full of style and character that made the world come to life for me. 

i'm sad that its publishing deals (some of the most ridiculous and counter-productive i've seen) have lead it down this road. 

that being said, i'm not discounting it yet.  i'll continue to play.  it offers things i dont get while playing the other MMOs i subscribe to (AoC, LOTRO, EVE, DFO, DDO - which has also gone F2P, and CoH).   when spellborn comes out of its cocoon as a F2P game, i'll still be interested to see what's left of it.   

(i tend not to have a fond view of F2P games, but they might be the unavoidable reality of a good number of niche market games in the near future.)

Originally posted by Cybercat

Originally posted by arcdevil

Originally posted by Cybercat

Did you even play the game? Or you maybe tried it and found you lack "gud ole stuff" like autto attack at lvl 3 and rage quit? Only good thing I see about WoW is that it somewhat keeps kiddies on one place instead having them pollute some other games.

 

Calling a game "garbage" without obviously having a single clue about it says more about you than the game and community you try to spit on.

 

 

i dont play WoW, and i did play TCoS. and "gud ole stuff" involves a bit more than autoattack,like a decent PvP system, or working skills, or meaningful-challenging PvE, or a damn endgame

but if you played TCoS i doubt you can understand what  "gud olde stuff" means since TCoS had none of that...actually had none of anything but crap.

 

now all your baseless assumptions missed the mark, please feel free to get back to your usual failing.

 

Such an angry little boy arent you?

Here is another assumption - none ever took some trouble to teach you the difference between the facts and opinion.

The fact - Spellborn is dead, have some decency and let it rest in peace.

Opinion - you think the game is bad, I think its good. The only proper way to express your opinion to matter anything is to have respect for other peoples opinions, even if they disagree with you.

 

The only real failure I see here are your manners.

Calling someone a little boy and then "correcting" them for their manners? lol
 

Fact: the only thing "innovative" about Spellborn was they put the hotbars on a wheel. Yeah, real genre refiining there.

People liked it, and that's fine. But trying to constantly give a game more credit than it is due to  make it seem "better" than other games when in fact it had very little different from those other games you're so desperate to set it aside from is pretty funny, at the very least.

 This really disappoints me. The game needed some polish, all new games do, but it really had an interesting art style and the story was great. There was a lot of love put behind this project. I agree that the biggest tradgedy here is that it's another big knock against creativity in MMOs and is only going to reinforce the downward spiral of dumbing down we've been seeing. Is it really so wrong to want complexity and originality in your MMO? 

Originally posted by Kordesh

 This really disappoints me. The game needed some polish, all new games do, but it really had an interesting art style and the story was great. There was a lot of love put behind this project. I agree that the biggest tradgedy here is that it's another big knock against creativity in MMOs and is only going to reinforce the downward spiral of dumbing down we've been seeing. Is it really so wrong to want complexity and originality in your MMO? 

Yes. People are dumb. Even the government knows this hence why they mandate all public correspondences are to be made at the 10th grade reading level which is the average for an American. Complex and origional does not sell well and the business is about making money. People are picky, especially in hard times, and they will choose the game thats the easiest to get to some fun without thinking. WoW is huge because its rediculously cartoonish and dumb.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Calling someone a little boy and then "correcting" them for their manners? lol
 

Fact: the only thing "innovative" about Spellborn was they put the hotbars on a wheel. Yeah, real genre refiining there.

People liked it, and that's fine. But trying to constantly give a game more credit than it is due to  make it seem "better" than other games when in fact it had very little different from those other games you're so desperate to set it aside from is pretty funny, at the very least.

I am sure if your favorite game (whatever you find fun and love to play, subjectively you know because its all matter of our preferences, even emotions) was beaten to death, you would be delighted to have vouchers standing above its grave calling it a garbage.

I loved the looks and feel of the game, I loved quests and zones, I loved the lore.... I found the game that was close to my heart in way that I cant objectively explain.... just as I cant explain why I fell in love with one person and not somebody else.

You can analyze combat and whatever system until you tear it apart and try to find objective facts, but you cant factually analyze my feelings about the game overall.

Seeing someone spit on dead body of something I loved hurts. And that is probably the only reason that person posts here, to hurt someone. That is even beyond "manners", I agree, its much worse...

The game will apparently relaunch in a F2P format sometime in 2010.

Originally posted by Xasapis

The game will apparently relaunch in a F2P format sometime in 2010.

The game will be "remade" by Frogster Asia Co. to suit f2p and Korean market, as I understood.

I dont expect single original feature to stay intact in "remaking".