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The Chronicles of Spellborn

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  • Developer: Spellborn International
  • Genre: Fantasy
  • Status: Beta Testing (est. release Q1 2009)
  • Platforms: PC 
  • Website: http://www.tcos.com
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packers  10/25/07 4:49:38 PM

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yo?any free good mmorpg''s around yo?

is chronical of spellborn free?? ifitiz that would b awesome!i only play free games lol

 
BesCirga  10/25/07 6:07:56 PM

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Im afraid you wont be as lucky as us who will pay to play, because this game will have exacly that.

 
packers  10/25/07 6:15:02 PM

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yo?any free good mmorpg''s around yo?

dang :((( i guess ill just download perfect world and play last chaos and metin 2 lol

 
Lord.Bachus  10/26/07 2:52:00 AM

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live is like a box of.....

When you know how much money the server maintenance of a good MMO costs, you can understand that they can not be free to play and give a good experience at the same time.

 
Aristea  10/26/07 6:10:32 AM

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The cost of Employees ( loan/wages) by far outscales that of server-maintenance. By which I in no way try to say that the maintenance is cheap, but it's not even on the chart compared to loancosts.

Lord.Bachus  10/26/07 6:39:47 AM

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live is like a box of.....

Originally posted by Aristea

The cost of Employees ( loan/wages) by far outscales that of server-maintenance. By which I in no way try to say that the maintenance is cheap, but it's not even on the chart compared to loancosts.

Well...most of the loancost directly are connected to server maintenance...even most of the helpdesk wages.... ((I split cost up twofold after release, maintenance and development)) So people tend to add those wages to the maintenece costs.

 
Aristea  10/26/07 9:24:29 AM

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Loanscales are set for divisions, but the section "loan" in any company, is definitely not shared with other costs. I've worked at the administration for several companies and all of them have seperate departments for wages.

The only time wages and other costs become connected, is when every department has to cut back on spendings. In that case, every department gets a tag with the total expenses, after which management decides for a proper action. Most of the time, cutting back means letting people go.

Lord.Bachus  10/26/07 9:58:59 AM

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live is like a box of.....

You can not calculate the totall costs of maintenance without taking peoples salary intoo account..

 

 

 
Valentina  10/26/07 2:59:00 PM

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"It''s not true that I had nothing on, I had the radio on!" - Marilyn Monroe

I would rather pay for a MMO in some form, that way we should be getting quality updates :)

Aion: Tower of Eternity

Coming in 2009

Aristea  10/26/07 3:42:16 PM

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People = salary
Maintenance = maintenance.
People are hired to maintain.

The extra costs per employee are a seperate cost and have no affect on the actual cost of the maintenance.

1 machine, 1 guy. -> €1,- for maintenance and €1,- Salary. Game expands, 1 machine extra and 1 person extra, is still simply counted seperately.

All the above can be completely ignored as an example, because however much you turn the coin, there is no way, that any company calculates the cost of it's maintenance by adding salary to that list. It's one 100% a different line on any report.

Th doesn't mean that there is no "maintenance crew/department", where you can see how much people get payed for their jobs, how much salary in total goes to this department and how much they spend on maintenance, but in the end, only how much they as a department spend on maintenance, is going to count as a maintenance cost.

I'm not going to explain it any further, it's even the law to do it this way, to keep accounting transparent and prevent corruption within companies.

Samuraisword  10/27/07 8:55:15 AM

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Gamers who use RMT are like athletes who use steroids.

Subscription based games not only help maintain a level playing field, no item shops or RMT support, but also help reduce the number of riffraff and kiddies, which is a very good thing.

Scriar  10/28/07 3:37:56 PM

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Originally posted by Samuraisword

Subscription based games not only help maintain a level playing field, no item shops or RMT support, but also help reduce the number of riffraff and kiddies, which is a very good thing.

wows subscription based and is full with those people. In fact most people who are kiddies and riff raff as you say can afford to pay for their own accounts wow proves that. So the subscription keeping the morons away dosn't really happen unthoughtunatly.

 

Pay to play games are always well not always but most of the time higher quality than games that are free so i dont care if i pay to play the game, almost every mmo is updated regually anyway. And besides who the hell complains about paying 8 pounds a month(15$ roughly) i earn that on a part time job in little over an hour not bad considering how many hours if you add them up you get out of the game per month compared to how much you earn per month.

And its certainly more cheaper than going to the movies or out for a drink, or even other forms of gaming 35 pounds per new released game on average and they usually last like 20 hours in total. Compared to mmos which quite alot of people play for years at a time.

Very few normal games last that long of a time unless they either have 1 or 2 things, 1 multiplayer thats good, or 2, modding tools.

 
Samuraisword  10/29/07 8:33:28 AM

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Gamers who use RMT are like athletes who use steroids.

Compare WoW's playerbase to any of the "so called" free item shop games and you will think WoW's playerbase is very mature.

Aristea  10/29/07 9:58:52 AM

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'Maybe you shouldn't block general chat, trade and or anything related to a global chat then, so you can see how similar they are ^^

Samuraisword  10/30/07 4:58:53 PM