Originally posted by twistedthai

Yes the game is free to play but only that.  They make their money from their cash shop sthat they offer ingame and outgame through their website.  This is where they get their money to pay their staffs.  At first glance people see free to play but in order to advance and become stronger they force people into having to make purchases from their in game shop... let me give you a good example

In order for a person to get a +8 weapon they would have to purchase a product that would allow them a 100% non-breakage of an item.  Without that product you will have a 90% chance of the item failing while enchanting and a 95% chance of it breaking due to failing.  Reminder that the item can get to +3 without breaking.  After that it will take 5-30 of these 100% non-breakage items to get just 1 +1 added to the weapon or armor you are enchanting.  The reason for 5-30 is because of the high fail rate and that you can only use the item 1 time even if you fail.  The Item I am talking about is called an Sprotect scroll and check it out, they cost 400 gpotatoes which is roughly around $4 USD.  I once spent $50 just to get an item up to +8 and heard that it takes about $200 to get an item up to +10.

The outcome I've came to with my character was this.  I had x2 weapons that had +8 enchants on them which cost me roughly around $100 to get them to +8 and to purchase the items from players because in order to afford such an item I had to sell my sprotect scrolls.  On top of that I had x4 armor all at +7 which cost me roughly around $150 to get enchanted.  But I won't stop there, to got my cash shop dog to pick up money and items for me that cost me an additional $28 and then I bought a ninja outfit at additional $28 because my character would look gay without it, but I am not done, I also had to buy special gear by selling sprotect scrolls which roughly cost me around an additional $150, ohhh wait, their is more, I also had to purchase a cloak that added stats to me at an additional $20.  But then you got to think about your other character which needs just about the same amount of enchants, items, and specailty gear.  So if you think about it, the total of just having 2 characters would top that of a pay to play game by ohh lets say 1000% more the cost, but I might be a little short on the percentage.

They are banking off of these cash shop items and trust me, I know that they are because everyone wants them and more then about 75% of the players which I've been on has cash shop clothing, enchanted weapons, or anything offered from the cash shop.  So forget that little $15 a month fee people use for the pay to play games, this game would cost more then a little peon $15 a month.  These are my weekly average of $1000 per account which I hold.

I agree entirely. As everyone knows... when you kill mobs that are your level, the experience rate is down to 0.04% per kill. Therefore, everyone who plays Flyff knows that in order to gain "better" experience you have to attack mobs that are atleast 5 levels above your level.

BUT... the only way a person at higher levels will be able to kill mobs that are higher levels is if they are completely decked out. Meaning.. their character MUST have atleast +8 or higher armor AND weapons, and all the necessary jewelry.

My character had: +8 guardian bow (worth more than 50 mil),  TWO mighteer earrings +1 (at the time they were worth 50mil EACH on Glaphan when I purchased them... so I paid 100mil for 2 earrings), one Gore+6 necklace (20mil),  Arek Ring +5 (5-6 mil) and Arek Ring +6 (10mil), a School Event Cape +100 hp(purchased off of cash shops, worth 2000 gpots = $20 USD, a Doggy (purchased off of cash shops, worth 2700 gpots = about $28 USD), a Maid Set Outfit that I later traded with another player (purchased off of cash shops, worth 2700 gpots = about $28), endless amount of Sprotects known as "spros" that cost 400 gpots for a bundle of 5 = $4 USD) because that is the only way you can enchant your armor and weapons pass +3 without worrying about losing your items, Bunny Ears (purchased off of cash shops, worth 900 gpots = about $10 USD), Blue Bird Mask +1 Dex (purchased off of cash shops, worth 1000 gpots = about $11 USD).

With all of this equipped on my character... I was still unable to fight mobs that were 5-7 levels higher than me just for a wimpy 0.10% experience gain per kill. Woohoo... 0.1% thats a wholeee lot !!!! NOT.

The game may be FREE TO PLAY, but in order to keep playing and advancing... you end up spending over $200 USD on just one character alone.  $200 USD does not equal FREE.

I think 100% of players at higher levels know that in order to keep leveling YOU have to frequently purchase items from Cash Shops. I mean ...geez, just look at all the SHOUT SPAM that goes on on all the servers in Flyff... "PURCHASING 100 SPROS FOR 1.5/2.5/4.5 MIL"... prices depend on which server you play on. Glaphan is apparently the cheapest server to play on. And I spent over $200 USD on just one character on that server. Mind you... I had 3 characters.

There is no way... a person could possibly continue to play Flyff without being forced to purchase the proper items (Spros, Gpros, ect) to advance from Cash Shops. These frequent Cash Shop purchases may either be used on their own equipment or to resell for MILLIONS of in game money.

This game is based on GREED.

Forget about asking for help when you have been hacked or scammed. You will recieve NO HELP from customer service. They made it clear in their forums. So if you lose all of your $100 USD items that you purchased from Cash Shops... I sympathize with you. You will never get it back... nor will be refunded for your lost... nor will you even get the other party punished for being the reason as to why you lost your items even with PROOF (aka screenshots). 

But you can get someone temporarily banned for spamming the shout. WOW... shout spamming = HORRIBLE on flyff. It annoys the hell out of Flyff GMs. Especially when people constantly complain about it.

So if you ever have the feeling that you will soon be banned... I'd advise you to SHOUT SPAM as much as possible before your ban. Lmfao... it's entertaining and great for kicks.

Originally posted by aluvenj

Originally posted by twistedthai

Yes the game is free to play but only that.  They make their money from their cash shop sthat they offer ingame and outgame through their website.  This is where they get their money to pay their staffs.  At first glance people see free to play but in order to advance and become stronger they force people into having to make purchases from their in game shop... let me give you a good example

In order for a person to get a +8 weapon they would have to purchase a product that would allow them a 100% non-breakage of an item.  Without that product you will have a 90% chance of the item failing while enchanting and a 95% chance of it breaking due to failing.  Reminder that the item can get to +3 without breaking.  After that it will take 5-30 of these 100% non-breakage items to get just 1 +1 added to the weapon or armor you are enchanting.  The reason for 5-30 is because of the high fail rate and that you can only use the item 1 time even if you fail.  The Item I am talking about is called an Sprotect scroll and check it out, they cost 400 gpotatoes which is roughly around $4 USD.  I once spent $50 just to get an item up to +8 and heard that it takes about $200 to get an item up to +10.

The outcome I've came to with my character was this.  I had x2 weapons that had +8 enchants on them which cost me roughly around $100 to get them to +8 and to purchase the items from players because in order to afford such an item I had to sell my sprotect scrolls.  On top of that I had x4 armor all at +7 which cost me roughly around $150 to get enchanted.  But I won't stop there, to got my cash shop dog to pick up money and items for me that cost me an additional $28 and then I bought a ninja outfit at additional $28 because my character would look gay without it, but I am not done, I also had to buy special gear by selling sprotect scrolls which roughly cost me around an additional $150, ohhh wait, their is more, I also had to purchase a cloak that added stats to me at an additional $20.  But then you got to think about your other character which needs just about the same amount of enchants, items, and specailty gear.  So if you think about it, the total of just having 2 characters would top that of a pay to play game by ohh lets say 1000% more the cost, but I might be a little short on the percentage.

They are banking off of these cash shop items and trust me, I know that they are because everyone wants them and more then about 75% of the players which I've been on has cash shop clothing, enchanted weapons, or anything offered from the cash shop.  So forget that little $15 a month fee people use for the pay to play games, this game would cost more then a little peon $15 a month.  These are my weekly average of $1000 per account which I hold.

I agree entirely. As everyone knows... when you kill mobs that are your level, the experience rate is down to 0.04% per kill. Therefore, everyone who plays Flyff knows that in order to gain "better" experience you have to attack mobs that are atleast 5 levels above your level.

BUT... the only way a person at higher levels will be able to kill mobs that are higher levels is if they are completely decked out. Meaning.. their character MUST have atleast +8 or higher armor AND weapons, and all the necessary jewelry.

My character had: +8 guardian bow (worth more than 50 mil),  TWO mighteer earrings +1 (at the time they were worth 50mil EACH on Glaphan when I purchased them... so I paid 100mil for 2 earrings), one Gore+6 necklace (20mil),  Arek Ring +5 (5-6 mil) and Arek Ring +6 (10mil), a School Event Cape +100 hp(purchased off of cash shops, worth 2000 gpots = $20 USD, a Doggy (purchased off of cash shops, worth 2700 gpots = about $28 USD), a Maid Set Outfit that I later traded with another player (purchased off of cash shops, worth 2700 gpots = about $28), endless amount of Sprotects known as "spros" that cost 400 gpots for a bundle of 5 = $4 USD) because that is the only way you can enchant your armor and weapons pass +3 without worrying about losing your items, Bunny Ears (purchased off of cash shops, worth 900 gpots = about $10 USD), Blue Bird Mask +1 Dex (purchased off of cash shops, worth 1000 gpots = about $11 USD).

With all of this equipped on my character... I was still unable to fight mobs that were 5-7 levels higher than me just for a wimpy 0.10% experience gain per kill. Woohoo... 0.1% thats a wholeee lot !!!! NOT.

The game may be FREE TO PLAY, but in order to keep playing and advancing... you end up spending over $200 USD on just one character alone.  $200 USD does not equal FREE.

I think 100% of players at higher levels know that in order to keep leveling YOU have to frequently purchase items from Cash Shops. I mean ...geez, just look at all the SHOUT SPAM that goes on on all the servers in Flyff... "PURCHASING 100 SPROS FOR 1.5/2.5/4.5 MIL"... prices depend on which server you play on. Glaphan is apparently the cheapest server to play on. And I spent over $200 USD on just one character on that server. Mind you... I had 3 characters.

There is no way... a person could possibly continue to play Flyff without being forced to purchase the proper items (Spros, Gpros, ect) to advance from Cash Shops. These frequent Cash Shop purchases may either be used on their own equipment or to resell for MILLIONS of in game money.

This game is based on GREED.

Forget about asking for help when you have been hacked or scammed. You will recieve NO HELP from customer service. They made it clear in their forums. So if you lose all of your $100 USD items that you purchased from Cash Shops... I sympathize with you. You will never get it back... nor will be refunded for your lost... nor will you even get the other party punished for being the reason as to why you lost your items even with PROOF (aka screenshots). 

But you can get someone temporarily banned for spamming the shout. WOW... shout spamming = HORRIBLE on flyff. It annoys the hell out of Flyff GMs. Especially when people constantly complain about it.

So if you ever have the feeling that you will soon be banned... I'd advise you to SHOUT SPAM as much as possible before your ban. Lmfao... it's entertaining and great for kicks.

I too agree with Godlydemon. We should move on this idea. Whether it be successful or not, it doesn't hurt to try.

Originally posted by aluvenj

I too agree with Godlydemon. We should move on this idea. Whether it be successful or not, it doesn't hurt to try.

Hi Everyone.

        Hi.I had been playing this game for some time now, Game is Free if you know how to make money, Yes, Throughout time that this game kept running, expect the unexpected. Its like anyone going to  a newly opened restaurant. You tried it, went there a couple of times, then you slowly noticed that, their loosing their signature taste, that "uniquesness". Game used to have helpful GM, then had been replaced, like that same Chef that cooks the food on that newly opened restaurant. The point is, things change, and that change affects how that first person set up things in the first place. Im sure those "starting" gaming companies experienced that too. I TOTALLY hated how things are going on now with this game, GM shows up only whenever they wanted too, if they do so,you can meet up with them on a certain spot, tell them what's the problem and all that. what will you get,  this. "................" "try your luck next time" .yadi ~ ya di ya.. blah blah explains all the crap that had happened, GM feeLz , (that's the name) "just luck man," *ignores you after that long explanation* .. so yeah.. so much for a lazy ass not to do his job even if you say the magic word "pls" . Acts like a God, .. yeah right. I know that some Flyff player out there knows this jerk and so other GM, I wish i own this Gala, i still think that its still have a chance to .. change, that change of course will happen if whoever currently own this "Galanet" to figure out and make Changes. About making money here, Farming is possible at certain lvl with of course "trustworthy" friends. that's where that scamming and other lame stuffs happens,im a lvl 108, the last time i remember used money was when i was a noobie, i dont know how to make money, then till i figured out how, i honestly spent like... $150, first 50 was sort of "donation" other was some stuff you could sell to help you out at lvl 40, as i remember that's the time im broke with penya.. and that was it. Investing on "rare" stuff, and have a friendly guild you could hook up with to farm CW, before a GM has a "time" to help a guild get inside a boss room or ClockWork, no time limit till your guild stands still and were able to finish him off, viola! usefull stuffs you could use to advance or "save it" to sell it to other players for "penya > money " . All in all, if a game is free, and you can "seek and you shall find" with any of questions that you want answers, then you can still somehow enjoy the "free game" your playing. But then, If your planning to play this game, Dont play this, Unless you have the Patience required to have certain things you wanted to have.Im also not defending this crappy game. I honestly hated this, just playing this with friends, for chat, help out other players , and stop them from making a mistake. It IS a crappy game coz people running it.. are all crappy.  that's right Gala.Net    .. CHECK your PEOPLE and DO IT RIGHT.  DONT BE DAMN GREEDY. Bastards.

I agree with you as well. Gala.net needs to get rid of their support staff. Wait... did I say "Support?" Haha, I made a funny. I forgot there is no such thing as "support" in Flyff.

You made me laugh when you said support staff and put flyff into it.  I was like huh, wait they have help/support, like wow, lets all flock to the game now...... GALA get back to work and start making people happy, your game is getting worse then you think and soon people will leave.  It might look cute at first but constant grinding, gruling fails, and lack of hack prevention and investigation will be your greatest downfall of all.... Once I win the mega millions I am buying your company and revamping everything. 

My final words are:

GALA YOU SUCK

Too bad... American rpgs are always gay like this... greedy people and US flyff is not even complete and i dont even think GM is even working on it.. like the hair color in opening.. is that even going to be avaible and if not, why have it there.... or the NPCs that sell special items or boards doesnt have have anything there.

I like the japanese flyff, its complete! the special items on the NPCs that you see empty actually suppose to be pets and custom cloths. But their game isnt free like our which is a good thing because then everyone is equal and no one would be greedy for selling too high.

its a complete game and still growing, every missing link or crap that the US flyff doesnt have, japanese have it all. :D

So far since my last post the gala.net company made some fixes =D good news!!!
1- The horrible server problems have been cleared, most of what, still a few glitches but nothing big or arrovating
2- The New events they have been doing are worth doing!! =D, the last event they were giving out cash shop items in exchange for a drop related to the event. such as a 7-day outfit, or great items which can help greatly.
Unfortunately, the greed problem hasn't been fixed... which gala can't really do anything about, also the community still has been getting worse with people harrassing each other and all that fun stuff. As of lately i have been moveing this game aside to play a game i have been getting heavily into... I think it should be placed into MMORPG.COM!! The cash shop items are cheap (you pay about 20$ for EVERYTHING you can possibly need EVER in the game.) and the game play is fairly simple and it gets more diificult as you play it longer and there is more than one thing to do at a time.

It's a Golfing Game if anyone is interested! look up my character on there if you start playing =D. Deadsun7

http://www.albatross18.com/season2/

Originally posted by deadsun7

So far since my last post the gala.net company made some fixes =D good news!!!
1- The horrible server problems have been cleared, most of what, still a few glitches but nothing big or arrovating
2- The New events they have been doing are worth doing!! =D, the last event they were giving out cash shop items in exchange for a drop related to the event. such as a 7-day outfit, or great items which can help greatly.
Unfortunately, the greed problem hasn't been fixed... which gala can't really do anything about, also the community still has been getting worse with people harrassing each other and all that fun stuff. As of lately i have been moveing this game aside to play a game i have been getting heavily into... I think it should be placed into MMORPG.COM!! The cash shop items are cheap (you pay about 20$ for EVERYTHING you can possibly need EVER in the game.) and the game play is fairly simple and it gets more diificult as you play it longer and there is more than one thing to do at a time.

It's a Golfing Game if anyone is interested! look up my character on there if you start playing =D. Deadsun7

http://www.albatross18.com/season2/

Agree.