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Everquest II Forum » The Tavern (General) » EQ2 looks fantastic! This may help.

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  eccoton

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OP  10/29/08 6:01:46 AM#21
Originally posted by cataphracht

EQ2 graphic's are poor, Characters are the best thing going for it, but most backgrounds are terrible it's a shame a lot of things can look really nice and it just messes up with low detail tree's and bland grounds.

It's really aged lol, these characters in Vanguards background would probably be the best for them 2 games it is like they both have something the other don't.

The way this game looks it should perform the same as WOW on my cpu but it doesn't wow performs superbly, whereas this acts like it's crysis for performance lol still playable though, when I make it even more uglier with taking shadows off.


 

Everyone has their own opinion and taste when it comes to graphic. However to discribe EQ2's graphics as poor and bland is a total mystery to me.

As far as the performs as good as WoW comment, it actually performs better then WoW on my system since the addition of dual core support. It may perform poorly on your system but it performs great on 1000s of other players systems.

I would bet you have not played the game recently or with graphic maxed. My experience with EQ2 simply does not support your comments. Explain to me how this screen and the others I have posted here are poor and bland. I would be interested in how you come to that conclusion.

 

  eccoton

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OP  10/29/08 6:21:20 AM#22

One of the subtle things I love in EQ2 is how your characters expressions change in battle. I love my toons game face.

  Baleout

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11/03/08 10:45:11 AM#23

Eccoton

 

So over the weekend i tried evrything you said to try with EQ2 and WOOT  thanks so much i just got a new comp and it improved the overall look and the way it runs  it looks great no matter what all the others say :)

 

Again many thanks for that post now to try it on my wifes tonite .  :)

  xbellx777

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11/03/08 11:12:47 AM#24

eccoton thank you very much for this article it helped alot while i was playing the trial the game looks so much better


  eccoton

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OP  11/03/08 12:35:03 PM#25

Thanks guy, glad it helped. The complex nature of EQ2's graphic settings, because of poor choices by SOE, is hard to understand at times. EQ2 takes a little work to get running right. However, if all your ducks are in a row it is a really fun experience and even after 4 years stands up graphically to many newer games. 

  cataphracht

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11/10/08 4:47:59 PM#26

Hey ecco your right, the toons do impress, but look at the ground, the tree's and the buildings it's not so impressive anymore.

Yeah I'd go so far to describe them as bland sorry :P in the year 2004 maybe they would be considered good but then again doom 3 came out at that time, it blows it away with the graphics.

See where I'm coming from? I mean theres games in year 2004 that look better then eq2  toons and backgrounds included, now in 2008 where most new games is to a high level of detail of graphics, example fable 2, fallout3, Age of conan .... list goes on, they do make EQ2 environments bland..

Same goes for any game back in the old days people used to say how can ff7 look bland? how can morrowind look bland? Now they say they look bland it's technology and that's where my opinion come from I think it's outdated.

Your right about another thing :) it does play better I tried again. Saying that it's still a great game but I think halo 1 could challenge the graphics lol.

  eccoton

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OP  11/10/08 8:31:55 PM#27
Originally posted by cataphracht

Hey ecco your right, the toons do impress, but look at the ground, the tree's and the buildings it's not so impressive anymore.

Yeah I'd go so far to describe them as bland sorry :P in the year 2004 maybe they would be considered good but then again doom 3 came out at that time, it blows it away with the graphics.

See where I'm coming from? I mean theres games in year 2004 that look better then eq2  toons and backgrounds included, now in 2008 where most new games is to a high level of detail of graphics, example fable 2, fallout3, Age of conan .... list goes on, they do make EQ2 environments bland..

Same goes for any game back in the old days people used to say how can ff7 look bland? how can morrowind look bland? Now they say they look bland it's technology and that's where my opinion come from I think it's outdated.

Your right about another thing :) it does play better I tried again. Saying that it's still a great game but I think halo 1 could challenge the graphics lol.

I can name any number of single player or small group games as you have with better graphic then EQ2. You need to compare graphics to other mmos. I do not think I need to explain the reasons single player games usually have better graphic then mmos. Most experienced mmo players understand the differences. You sacrifice some graphics for being in a world with 100s or 1000s of other players. 

The only mmo you mention is AoC, which I played and it did have better graphic then EQ2, yet much less immersive. However AoC is a sinking ship because of many other reasons. I have never claimed EQ2 has the best graphic in a game. I have always simply said that EQ2 has great graphic and that most people do not really get a chance to see them. That is why I started the thread to help people enjoy the graphics and game more. EQ2 has its own unique look and it creates a consistent believable living world and it does this very well.
 

  permster

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11/10/08 10:56:20 PM#28

I would have to disagree with you on EQ2 graphics being poor.  In the big pool of MMORPG's it's hardly poor.  It's 4 years old and check out these shots.  I couldn't believe it was EQ2 at first.

www.mmorpg.com/galleries/proja

  darkraptor

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11/10/08 10:58:34 PM#29
Originally posted by permster

I would have to disagree with you on EQ2 graphics being poor.  In the big pool of MMORPG's it's hardly poor.  It's 4 years old and check out these shots.  I couldn't believe it was EQ2 at first.

www.mmorpg.com/galleries/proja

 

I wouldn't go as far as to even remotely call it impressive.

 

Games get more flashy, but that doesn't mean their better games.

 

It's not an ugly game, but as far as graphics go it isn't and never has been one of those in the category of "amazing graphics".

/rant

  permster

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11/11/08 1:01:54 AM#30

I hear ya.  I wouldn't call it amazing either, but for a 4 year old game I think it's pretty good.

  cataphracht

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11/11/08 1:47:26 AM#31

Yeah coming to think off it you guys got a good point, they are good compared to other mmo's.

I don't play a lot of mmo's, so all I could compare too was what I did play, which still doesn't mean their graphics are fantastic .......

Imagine the mmorpg genre didn't evolve as much as it has done and eq2 had graphics on par with halo 1, while it's competition had age of empires 1 graphics, does this make eq2 graphics fantastic to you? With crysis, farcry 2, gears of war games like that sitting on the shelves?

It's all ones perspective, but for me I compare games with games not mmo's with mmo's and fps with fps if it's good it's good and if it's bland no matter the genre it's bland

If it's the case of it being a mmo that's why it looks bland then I guess the problem lies with making mmo's look more attractive which isn't impossible as age of conan has shown.

I'm no graphic junkie but to be calling a game that didn't look fantastic in 2004 (despite the other mmo's out) fantastic in 2008 doesn't make a lot of sense to me

btw good on you for trying to get this game look more decent for others

  eccoton

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OP  11/11/08 4:14:39 AM#32

Here is a screen I just took. A few here say EQ2s graphics are not good or up to current mmo standards. I simply have to disagree. EQ2s graphics even after 4 years stand up to most mmos even released this year and yes I do think they are fantastic for an mmorpg. I guess we are seeing different things.

  cataphracht

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11/12/08 1:47:09 AM#33

Yeah sorry they're better then what I'm giving them credit for your right, I just took a look at the other games and this one still fares  well :P my bad

  Squal'Zell

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11/12/08 1:59:09 AM#34

yupyup EQ2 has some of the best graphics of its generation

(same generation as LOTRO)

though my computer is getting old and i need to play my games on low or medium... and even then...

 

im just wondering when are they going to add the Dx10 to EQ2

that will be crazy.


  eccoton

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OP  11/12/08 6:55:32 AM#35
Originally posted by cataphracht

Yeah sorry they're better then what I'm giving them credit for your right, I just took a look at the other games and this one still fares  well :P my bad


 

It is refreshing to see someone take another look at EQ2 and change their assessment. With all my posts in defense of EQ2 I have never tried to say it is the best looking game out. I have been trying to get people to take a second looks at it. SOE has had a mixed history with their mmos (NGE SWG, need I say more). They have alienated many possible players. However, they have handled EQ2 very well and it is worth a second look. I have been trying to present this, not for my own satisfaction, since I love and play the game but to get those looking for a new mmo, to give it a try. So many people here keep saying they are looking for a great new mmo and there is none out there. There is EQ2, it will suprise many at how much fun it is. You have to leap a few hurdles to enjoy the game (hence this thread) but if you do, you may find EQ2 the mmo you have been looking for.

The last few days have been a blast for me. One thing I love is player housing and the addition of guild halls has been great. For the last few days all I have been doing in decorating our massive guild hall. Some may find this boring but for me as an artist it is fantastic. I love to have impact on the game world that others can enjoy. WoW does not offer this at all. The huge scale and beauty of the large guild halls offers me this opportunity to have a small impact on how the game world looks. Here is a shot of my main standing in our guild hall court yard. It is as fun for me to plant trees as go out and kill bosses.

 

  eccoton

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OP  11/12/08 7:02:20 AM#36
Originally posted by Squal'Zell

yupyup EQ2 has some of the best graphics of its generation

(same generation as LOTRO)

though my computer is getting old and i need to play my games on low or medium... and even then...

 

im just wondering when are they going to add the Dx10 to EQ2

that will be crazy.


 

Unfortunately we will probably never see a DX10 EQ2 but it sure would be crazy. I also do not think we will see any big graphic updates. After all the game is 4 years old and SOE did not optimize the game for the direction PCs have gone. You will not see any huge changes to the graphics engine. What they have done and we will see is more performance improvements, like the recent dual core support. This will allow them to make the world richer and more detailed since performance will improve.

  Theocritus

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1/06/09 1:44:13 PM#37

         I was never really that thrilled with the graphics in EQ2.....I would try a few tweaks but could never get it to the point where I jsut went "ooooooooooo".......I also did not like most of the character moels and did not like the plastic feel my character had.......Too many of the areas felt "blocky" and pixelated to me...... Overall EQ2 was an OK game but wasnt one I felt like resubbing to after 4-5 months.......There was too much soloing and I also didnt like how almost every guild I was in demanded that we talk in ventrilo.... I started out as a typer in MMOs and that is just my preferred method......I didnt want to listen to some guy and his wife arguing or hear someones baby crying in the background while Im playing...... The game was also too solo friendly and I rarely ever found groups outside of guild (and those were only instances)....... It was hard for me to move from EQ1 to EQ2 and I always felt that EQ1 was just a better game.

  eccoton

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OP  1/07/09 6:46:05 AM#38
Originally posted by Theocritus

         I was never really that thrilled with the graphics in EQ2.....I would try a few tweaks but could never get it to the point where I jsut went "ooooooooooo".......I also did not like most of the character moels and did not like the plastic feel my character had.......Too many of the areas felt "blocky" and pixelated to me...... Overall EQ2 was an OK game but wasnt one I felt like resubbing to after 4-5 months.......There was too much soloing and I also didnt like how almost every guild I was in demanded that we talk in ventrilo.... I started out as a typer in MMOs and that is just my preferred method......I didnt want to listen to some guy and his wife arguing or hear someones baby crying in the background while Im playing...... The game was also too solo friendly and I rarely ever found groups outside of guild (and those were only instances)....... It was hard for me to move from EQ1 to EQ2 and I always felt that EQ1 was just a better game.

Blocky, plastic and pixelated? The point of this thread was to help people with that problem. Now you may not like the graphics in EQ2 but it is hardly blocky or pixelated. I think a lot of people see it that way because they do not have the graphics setup right (Hence this thread) or they do not have a machine EQ2 likes. SOE has taken steps to get the game running better for more people but they still have a lot of work to do. EQ2 being a 4 year old game not sure how much more SOE will do to optimize the game. However if you setup the complex graphic options right the game still after 4 years looks great.

This thread was to get others to post info on getting EQ2 running and looking better. It was not a review of the game or ventilo, by the way EQ2 has voice chat built into game now so no need to TS or Vent.
 

Here are a couple game screens I just took. I simply do not see them as blocky, plastic, or pixelated. I guess we see things differently.

  Spiritof55

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2/07/09 12:46:06 PM#39
Originally posted by eccoton
Originally posted by Squal'Zell

yupyup EQ2 has some of the best graphics of its generation

(same generation as LOTRO)

though my computer is getting old and i need to play my games on low or medium... and even then...

 

im just wondering when are they going to add the Dx10 to EQ2

that will be crazy.


 

Unfortunately we will probably never see a DX10 EQ2 but it sure would be crazy. I also do not think we will see any big graphic updates. After all the game is 4 years old and SOE did not optimize the game for the direction PCs have gone. You will not see any huge changes to the graphics engine. What they have done and we will see is more performance improvements, like the recent dual core support. This will allow them to make the world richer and more detailed since performance will improve.

 
Dual core support?  Seriously?  I'm all for that.  I quit eq2 months ago.  When was dual core support implemented?

I liked eq2 but the constant hitching was annoying.  It doesn't take advantage of graphics cards like todays games do.  If it did eq2 would perform alot better for everyone.  For now it is processor intensive.  During development Sony believed processors would continue to gain increased hertz, becoming faster with each generation such as, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 gighertz etc, but that hasn't happened.  So the game doesn't utilize graphic cards as it should.

However, I didn't quit due to eq2s' performance (I'm not an eye candy whore), there were other reasons. 

 

  eccoton

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OP  2/08/09 3:38:45 AM#40

Dual core support was added a few months ago. While it was not a huge leap in performance it has help a lot for many people. All the screens I have posted in this thread are game play shots  at 1920 x 1080 with framerates between 45 fps and 80 fps. EQ2 plays very smooth for me with no hitching at all.

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