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Everquest II Forum » The Tavern (General) » Why have the graphics grown so old?

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  Kyllien

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Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 315

12/24/13 5:17:54 AM#41

First graphics don't age.

Second, your perception of the graphics change.

The reason realistic graphics don't age well has more to do with you getting accustomed to newer technology.  Once, the realistic graphics have emerged to level where it is like playing a bluray movie with live actors then it will start to age more slowly.

  Tarnorili

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 35

12/24/13 5:37:58 AM#42
Originally posted by Solar_Prophet

EQ2 always looked like crap. While the character models were / are nice, that's about all the game has going for it in terms of graphics. It's a very ugly game overall, with terrible landscaping and landscape textures. The fact that the engine sucked down resources & still chugged along even on decent PCs of the time didn't help matters.

Not even going to start on the animations. Let's just say that I've seen flip-book comics with more fluid movement, and Rift's are butter-smooth in comparison.

You do realize they used motion capture for the character animations, yes? I'm really not sure what people are looking at. One possible reason is they haven't improved their graphics settings. It's a lot down to personal preference, but to say they're not fluid is basically just a lie. 

Yes, the landscape isn't great compared to new games these days. Back 10 years ago though there was nothing wrong with it, and even today it still looks fine. Once you get use to it areas can still look quite nice. And it's still got one of the longest line of sight options for in-game objects of MMOs going around today.

  Muke

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Joined: 1/04/07
Posts: 1534

12/24/13 5:55:23 AM#43
Originally posted by monochrome19
Can someone explain why realistic graphics dont "age well"?

Because with realistic graphics you compare the game to today's engines with "realistic graphics".

 

With a arcade MMO like WoW their Shrek graphics engine still looks great after 100 years because players will say: "well, that's the Warcraft style".

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  Xthos

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/18/10
Posts: 2627

12/24/13 5:59:51 AM#44

EQ2 looks fine to me, but I am not all about graphics.  I liked EQ2's graphics more than I did WoW, and still do.  So I do not think this 'ages well' thing is universal.

 

  Kaneth

Elite Member

Joined: 8/19/07
Posts: 1549

12/24/13 8:23:40 AM#45
Originally posted by Xthos

EQ2 looks fine to me, but I am not all about graphics.  I liked EQ2's graphics more than I did WoW, and still do.  So I do not think this 'ages well' thing is universal.

 

Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but art style can be tied to a certain period of time which gives it an inherent "older" look, or some might feel it becomes retro over time.

I do believe animations play a huge role into the overall look of a game. I find that the more realistic a game attempts to look, the worse the animations look over a given time. Stylized graphics more often than not have less than realistic animations, which add to the flavor of the style. Additionally, we're not overly comparing the stylized look to "real life" the more forgiving we seem to be as they age.

However, like with pretty much all things art, it's all a matter of personal taste.

  Torgrim

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 12/15/05
Posts: 2125

1/06/14 5:11:48 AM#46
What boggles me still are that few if any can play EQ2 o max graphic setting and have 40+ fps.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  User Deleted
1/07/14 10:42:21 PM#47

I see a lot of realistic graphics age poorly on here.   I want to point you to FFXI,  I just played last week and the detail and gameworld looks realistic and beautiful still even after 11 years straight.  That is one game they don't have to update the graphic for because it was well made at its very foundation.

 

If you look at games like Ashreons Call 2, also a game I'm currently playing part time,  they have added new graphics to that game that I find very realistic and very beautiful.    The sky looks like a real sky, the water looks very beautiful, very HD updated.

 

I think games need to use their engine and announce at the start of anygame that they will be updating graphics when new technology comes out to allow them to.    Many old games can be retextured with high quality HD looks and a SKYRIM look to them.   Heck, even skyrim was updated to HD textures with a mod.

 

EQ 2 has the ability to use Mods, very few games had the verisitility of Mods back then, and this is one game I think should have HD textures and a total realistic makeover done to it.  I know if a game like AC2 can be retextured, so can a big title like EQ2

 

The bottom line is money...    does the company want to spend money to retexture everything, and the cost of doing so.    Its not that it ages poorly, its not that its unable to be done, its weather or not  a company wants to remodel everything.   Just like a house, you tear off that old siding and put on new siding thatll last another decade, and you keep doing that instead of letting your house fall apart and no one is left to live in it anymore.  

  Blazer6992

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/27/05
Posts: 598

Shit Happens!!

1/07/14 10:53:03 PM#48
Originally posted by freston

And before you answer me "because the game is nine years old", i already know that.

Then you already have your answer.

 

  Lazzaro

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/01/04
Posts: 392

Anything easy ain''t worth a damn.

3/05/14 8:12:10 AM#49

I've always thought EQ2 look was ugly. I don't think the GFX are bad, but I think the art style, Character models, animations, and the over plastic look turned a lot of people away. I'm happy EQN is taking the more stylized approach.

  Harbourlight

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/06/14
Posts: 7

3/07/14 1:07:07 AM#50
I started to play Everquest II when it became free to play - around January 2012. I choose a game for its feel and immersive environment. That's always a question of taste and preferences. I like the picture-book style and the oldschool charm of EQ II. I took a lot of time to create my characters (a human female mage and a half elf male monk) and was very happy, when new hairstyles were made available. I just love to hang out and roam around this open world. I never play one game solely, so I don't get tired of them. Everquest II is a much loved all time classic. If it is not to Your taste - just move along...
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