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9/16/11 7:07:20 AM#61
Sadly, this does not surprise me in the least and I sympathise with the OP. On several online games I have had my personal accounts banned due to phishing and "other" in-game activity which I was not reponsible for. Reponses from support departments range from pro-formas to no response at all (*glares at Blizzard*). I run more system security than most but it makes no difference. Game companies have a history of treating their subs apallingly. And the situation is not improving in a hurry. There is an "elitist" and "precious" attitude amongst large game companies. There are too many examples of this to mention and it almost covers the entire industry. It's time for companies like Funcom to drink a large glass or perspective. Out in the real world, if you purchase a product, you have entitlements and rights. Seems to me that gamers have neither of these.
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9/16/11 7:19:48 AM#62
My bad, but the first link is talking about a promo 1 year 10 months ago... so around december 2010. http://www.massiveonlinegamer.com/forums/8-age-of-conan/512-funcoms-qcome-back-to-conanq-promotion
http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=161567&page=6
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9/16/11 7:40:18 AM#63
I do clearly remember the promo
Active for a 12 months subs and get frre copy of Godslayer.
and its normal practise if you chargeback the account gets cancelled. |
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9/16/11 7:48:54 AM#64
I won't call the OP a liar, but I do think his case falls into the one-in-a-million category of a bad chain of events leading to a bad outcome, and that his case shouldn't be used as a story of "look at how this company conducts its business, you shouldn't give them your money they are scam artists." Stories like this happen wtih every company, no exceptions. |
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9/16/11 7:56:28 AM#65
Actually to me the chargeback is not the issue. The op was right to do it, and funcom within their rights to ban/suspend that account. To me the real issue is the crappy service Funcom provided the op. A lot of game sales depend on word of mouth... Word of mouth for funcom is not good, in fact has been bad since the epic fail of a launch for AoC. They began to balance that with the good work they did later to balance it(and yes I played AoC after the launch when things had settled out and liked it) but with reports of stuff like this it will fall back down. Now someone will always buy their games, but will that amount of someones be enough to sustain a server load? Will they end up having a viable game called the Secret World, or will they just have to settle for whatever they make from presales and watch the game go belly up because no one trusts them enough to play it. I really like the look of TSW but i will be holding off to see what happens. my opinion. Currently playing Skyrim and Crusader Kings II. |
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9/16/11 9:00:40 AM#66
Originally posted by Xeno326 First off the above quoted because clearly everyone missed it. The new link that has been provided by someone is for AoC EU which extended the offer until December 20, 2010. http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=210849&highlight=rise+godslayer+free This link shows Famine from AoC stating that the offer including the free copy of RotGS was expired. This was January 2010. http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=208258&highlight=rise+godslayer+free Another link regarding that promotion. Offer expired December 1st, 2009. http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=226170 August 2010 another 12 month offer comes out, Does NOT include RotGS. Comes with helmet, potions, pet and other extras, but NOT RotGS.
First off to the OP- You admitted you were wrong which was a pleasant surprise. It is rare that someone is willing to admit they made a mistake. Makes me feel like a dick for coming off too strong, my apologies.
To everyone else- Contact an adult education program and ask if they have an adult reading/comphrehension course. If they don't most libraries will offer this program which seems to be sorely needed by some people.
This marks the end of my involvment in this thread as I don't enjoy trying to help the hopeless.
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9/16/11 10:51:56 AM#67
Originally posted by WSIMike You said you would do the same, so yeah my assumption is based on what you wrote. I could care less what your personal beef is with Funcom but somethings are just plain wrong. |
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9/16/11 11:51:29 AM#68
Well above all else what we learned and that is all that we can really ever desire from a company claiming this. |
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9/16/11 9:04:44 PM#69
Originally posted by ElderRat I understand this feeling, but the OP can only give 1/2 the story (sorry OP, but it is true). How one views one self and how we are viewed by others is often is not the same. |
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9/16/11 9:14:32 PM#70
to all those who think that funcom was right for the ban, i hate to break it to you but they were wrong. what they did is filled under false advertisement. they claimed if you paid for 12 months you will get a free expansion pack. the original poster paid for the 12 months and did not get the expansion pack he was promised. because they failed they are in breach of contract for false advertisement, which if the original poster wanted to could have filled a lawsuit about. he did not he told his bank to ask for a refund(which he rightly deserved). "Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?" |
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9/16/11 9:51:06 PM#71
After reading every post in this thread... yes of every page, I'm surprised more people haven't harped on what I think is the biggest problem. Why couldn't Funcom refund this guy's money if he did contact them the very next day and did not log back into the game?
How many people play MMO's? Of these people, how many do you think have made a mistake or unintentionally subscribe to something? If you did not take advantage of the subscription, why shouldn't you be entitled to a refund? In the non cyber world, I do not shop anywhere that won't give me a refund if I haven't used the product. Fortunately just about every major chain offers refunds. The only things that shouldn't be refunded are prepared food (unless they got the order wrong or there was hair in the food, etc), and personal wear like underwear.
If the OP asked for a refund the next day without logging back into the game, IMO Funcom is in the wrong any way you slice or dice it. Man Up Funcom! |
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9/18/11 2:02:42 PM#72
The whole problem is Funcom themselves. They dont reply to people, think what they do is oh so great, whilest they dont even know what the players really want. They think they do, but really, they dont. They sit in their ivory tower looking down and only thinking of your cash. |
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9/18/11 2:03:44 PM#73
i played the free game not impressed anyway. |
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9/18/11 2:09:42 PM#74
Originally posted by Arkain Bingo. This really should be common sense. Whether OP is in the right or wrong, if one does a chargeback one is getting banned. Anyways, OP you should be thankful. Why would you even consider going back to a company that lied and mislead you? |
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9/18/11 3:02:48 PM#75
It's nice to see the OP admit he may be wrong since discovering from another poster that RotGS wasn't released until summer 2010..so at that point it would have been activated on his account. Which is why he got the RotGS goodies but not the expansion itself..when he took advantage of the offer. His misunderstanding. BUT ...why did the Funcom rep overlook this fact. "Hey...Mr. OP...you WILL get the expansion when it releases in summer 2010."...Case closed.. Pretty crappy service from someone that should be better educated in their own product and promotions. ...and this coming from someone who has had nothing but good experiences with Funcom's Customer Service...even when it was my fug-up. |
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Wanted to bump with update - for anyone that was interested in hearing the results. Original post is edited with the new info at the top. Thanks for everyones support and assistance with this issue who took the time to help out with the incident. |
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Originally posted by Golelorn I never had an account on any service banned for any reason regarding cheating or in this case wanting a refund on a service. Regardless if I play the game or not is not the situation. It's the fact I had enabled a collectors edition on this account; which is property I paid for. It's my right to have access to it at any given time. On top of that getting banned for a misunderstanding on the Customer Rep's side isn't an issue I was going to let stand when I found out about what happened to the account. |
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9/19/11 9:09:48 AM#78
I believe this is standard of their billing system. I had an Anarchy Online account get banned for that very same reason. I had resubbed not realizing I had a canceled CC tied to the account and was banned after the transaction didn't go through. |
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9/19/11 10:22:24 AM#79
Originally posted by Xeno326 From what I can tell, you didn't outplay anyone...you over-reacted to an inept support rep. If you would have asked the rep to speak to someone higher up the food chain, you probably could have resolved the issue day-one. You kind of brought this upon yourself to some degree. I'm no fan of Fun(Fail)com as I have been burned by both AO and AoC. I also can relate to dealing with moronic support reps, so I feel your frustration. Credit card chargebacks should only be used as a last resort. As you have learned, it can end up screwing you in the end...it may even affect your credit score (which can be life altering). Let me say it again, chargebacks should only be used as a last resort! Glad you got it all sorted out in the end! ;) |
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