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  Osmanthus

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Joined: 5/25/04
Posts: 41

 
7/03/11 5:15:48 AM#1

I quit playing this game after about a month when it first came out.  There were many weaknesses in the game including terrible class balance, horrible instancing and incomplete game world.

Today, I logged onto my old character for free.  I had read over the years that the game had improved a lot.

Today, I found out the truth.  The game is exactly the same.  It still blows.

Coming back to my level 65 demonlogist was like remembering a bad dream.   Everything was exactly the same except that an item mall window pops up when I first logged on.   

Battlegrounds are still the same unbalanced tomfoolery.  Not fun in any way.

After playing this today, I have decided that I will never play a Funcom MMO again, they are not serious about finishing their games or making sure they have sensible rulesets.  Just dumb one-off game for grubbing money.

  Calerxes

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Disco Will Never Die

7/03/11 5:38:53 AM#2

I have a love hate relationship with AOC, I love Tortage, love many of the quest lines and the writing is superb in places, many interesting characters to meet, interesting clases, top graphics and a sublime musical score BUT then you have very bad performance for me on any setting, it is a solo quest grind to max level, crafting is bad, armour sets are poor, stats mean bugger all because the game is easy, limited content and unique areas 40+ (I hate The Field Of The Dead). So I haven't even managed to get a max character yet, though I still keep coming back to see if it has inproved and as you say Osmanthus it hasn't improved any of my negatives and to cap it all I've come back for f2p and its now crashing regularly which it wasn't doing before this patch, Ho Hum we'll see what the next xpac offers I suppose, I'm a gluton for punishment.

 

 

All views in this post are all in my humble opinion observations so no flaming please. 

  karmath

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Joined: 8/24/05
Posts: 426

7/03/11 5:44:21 AM#3
Originally posted by Calerxes

I have a love hate relationship with AOC, I love Tortage, love many of the quest lines and the writing is superb in places, many interesting characters to meet, interesting clases, top graphics and a sublime musical score BUT then you have very bad performance for me on any setting, it is a solo quest grind to max level, crafting is bad, armour sets are poor, stats mean bugger all because the game is easy, limited content and unique areas 40+ (I hate The Field Of The Dead). So I haven't even managed to get a max character yet, though I still keep coming back to see if it has inproved and as you say Osmanthus it hasn't improved any of my negatives and to cap it all I've come back for f2p and its now crashing regularly which it wasn't doing before this patch, Ho Hum we'll see what the next xpac offers I suppose, I'm a gluton for punishment.

 

 

All views in this post are all in my humble opinion observations so no flaming please. 

The good looking gear comes from dungeons. If ur too bad to complete one thats your fault. Gear means alot these days post 1.05. Game requires a decent pc, again your fault.

I despise people who give opinions on this things they are un informed about.

  Calerxes

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Joined: 2/06/09
Posts: 681

Disco Will Never Die

7/03/11 5:55:24 AM#4
Originally posted by karmath
Originally posted by Calerxes

I have a love hate relationship with AOC, I love Tortage, love many of the quest lines and the writing is superb in places, many interesting characters to meet, interesting clases, top graphics and a sublime musical score BUT then you have very bad performance for me on any setting, it is a solo quest grind to max level, crafting is bad, armour sets are poor, stats mean bugger all because the game is easy, limited content and unique areas 40+ (I hate The Field Of The Dead). So I haven't even managed to get a max character yet, though I still keep coming back to see if it has inproved and as you say Osmanthus it hasn't improved any of my negatives and to cap it all I've come back for f2p and its now crashing regularly which it wasn't doing before this patch, Ho Hum we'll see what the next xpac offers I suppose, I'm a gluton for punishment.

 

 

All views in this post are all in my humble opinion observations so no flaming please. 

The good looking gear comes from dungeons. If ur too bad to complete one thats your fault. Gear means alot these days post 1.05. Game requires a decent pc, again your fault.

I despise people who give opinions on this things they are un informed about.

 

The Irony is palpable within your post Karmath. How do you know what pc I run? I have never seen any high level toons running around with high level gear on, hmmm no never, seems like I'm not the only uninformed person around here by your standards and oh! its you're or you are not ur. Also thanks for highlighting what a great community AOC still has. 

  CujoSWAoA

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Posts: 1494

"Pablo Picasso said art is a lie that tells the truth."

7/03/11 5:57:25 AM#5

lol.

I love how this hate thread just got jacked by an asian shoe salesman.

  tinuelle

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Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 185

It's all about pushing the right buttons

7/03/11 6:11:46 AM#6
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

lol.

I love how this hate thread just got jacked by an asian shoe salesman.

Hehehe, yeah, it got owned :)

  MattDaddy10

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Posts: 22

Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery

7/03/11 6:15:50 AM#7

They're everywhere!!!

  Tyrxz

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You don't get what you deserve, you take it.

7/03/11 6:26:31 AM#8

I'm actually enjoing the game :) Haven't gotten to far up in levels thou. And I'm not realyl much of a PVP'er so battlegrounds don't really concern me.

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  bcrankshaw

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7/03/11 6:31:03 AM#9
Originally posted by karmath
Originally posted by Calerxes

I have a love hate relationship with AOC, I love Tortage, love many of the quest lines and the writing is superb in places, many interesting characters to meet, interesting clases, top graphics and a sublime musical score BUT then you have very bad performance for me on any setting, it is a solo quest grind to max level, crafting is bad, armour sets are poor, stats mean bugger all because the game is easy, limited content and unique areas 40+ (I hate The Field Of The Dead). So I haven't even managed to get a max character yet, though I still keep coming back to see if it has inproved and as you say Osmanthus it hasn't improved any of my negatives and to cap it all I've come back for f2p and its now crashing regularly which it wasn't doing before this patch, Ho Hum we'll see what the next xpac offers I suppose, I'm a gluton for punishment.

 

 

All views in this post are all in my humble opinion observations so no flaming please. 

The good looking gear comes from dungeons. If ur too bad to complete one thats your fault. Gear means alot these days post 1.05. Game requires a decent pc, again your fault.

I despise people who give opinions on this things they are un informed about.

 Karmath its irritating and arrogant responses like yours that is  one of the primary reasons people don't play AOC anymore ..the childish and unhelpful community

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  lizardbones

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Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 4167

7/03/11 7:36:28 AM#10


Originally posted by Tyrxz
I'm actually enjoing the game :) Haven't gotten to far up in levels thou. And I'm not realyl much of a PVP'er so battlegrounds don't really concern me.



And that's why the game still exists. There are a good many people who like to play the game. It's primarily a PvE game...which always struck me as very, very weird. If there was ever an IP that screamed "PVP!" it was Conan (to me).

But it's not really a PvP game. It's a PvE game that has PvP elements. If you are interested in leveling to max and then gear grinding then AoC will probably have something you like.

I never really could get into the game, but I think it has improved over time, especially from its initial release.

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  karmath

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7/03/11 8:36:01 AM#11
Originally posted by bcrankshaw
Originally posted by karmath
Originally posted by Calerxes

I have a love hate relationship with AOC, I love Tortage, love many of the quest lines and the writing is superb in places, many interesting characters to meet, interesting clases, top graphics and a sublime musical score BUT then you have very bad performance for me on any setting, it is a solo quest grind to max level, crafting is bad, armour sets are poor, stats mean bugger all because the game is easy, limited content and unique areas 40+ (I hate The Field Of The Dead). So I haven't even managed to get a max character yet, though I still keep coming back to see if it has inproved and as you say Osmanthus it hasn't improved any of my negatives and to cap it all I've come back for f2p and its now crashing regularly which it wasn't doing before this patch, Ho Hum we'll see what the next xpac offers I suppose, I'm a gluton for punishment.

 

 

All views in this post are all in my humble opinion observations so no flaming please. 

The good looking gear comes from dungeons. If ur too bad to complete one thats your fault. Gear means alot these days post 1.05. Game requires a decent pc, again your fault.

I despise people who give opinions on this things they are un informed about.

 Karmath its irritating and arrogant responses like yours that is  one of the primary reasons people don't play AOC anymore ..the childish and unhelpful community

Yeah I'm arrogant. I'll take that.

At least I post correct information, not some grossly uninformed personal experience drivel panning the game. 

  Professor78

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Joined: 6/10/05
Posts: 545

7/03/11 8:50:44 AM#12

I have to say that I do see Karmath's point about people complaning about a games bad performance setting wise.

It is clearly made to run on a high end pc, and if you don't have one, why even bother. It would be like buying a Ferrari and not being able to drive - "oh this cars shit because I can't drive" - see my point?

The only problem I had with the game is the lack of population. I have returned a couple of times, if it was thriving with players I would probably return again. It looks feels and sounds great, how a MMO should. But maybe too far ahead of time spec wise - giving it a limited audience.

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  Calerxes

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Joined: 2/06/09
Posts: 681

Disco Will Never Die

7/03/11 9:31:52 AM#13
Originally posted by karmath
Originally posted by bcrankshaw
Originally posted by karmath
Originally posted by Calerxes

I have a love hate relationship with AOC, I love Tortage, love many of the quest lines and the writing is superb in places, many interesting characters to meet, interesting clases, top graphics and a sublime musical score BUT then you have very bad performance for me on any setting, it is a solo quest grind to max level, crafting is bad, armour sets are poor, stats mean bugger all because the game is easy, limited content and unique areas 40+ (I hate The Field Of The Dead). So I haven't even managed to get a max character yet, though I still keep coming back to see if it has inproved and as you say Osmanthus it hasn't improved any of my negatives and to cap it all I've come back for f2p and its now crashing regularly which it wasn't doing before this patch, Ho Hum we'll see what the next xpac offers I suppose, I'm a gluton for punishment.

 

 

All views in this post are all in my humble opinion observations so no flaming please. 

The good looking gear comes from dungeons. If ur too bad to complete one thats your fault. Gear means alot these days post 1.05. Game requires a decent pc, again your fault.

I despise people who give opinions on this things they are un informed about.

 Karmath its irritating and arrogant responses like yours that is  one of the primary reasons people don't play AOC anymore ..the childish and unhelpful community

Yeah I'm arrogant. I'll take that.

At least I post correct information, not some grossly uninformed personal experience drivel panning the game. 

Are you serious? I posted my experiences on AOC and started by praising the many things that the games does better than many other games but also highlighted some of the things that irritate me about it, so I never stay around too long. Now how can I have uniformed personal experiences if they are my experiences, that is a contradiction in terms an oxymoron if you like.

 

I've just come back for the f2p launch and I am enjoying myself so I'd say to anyone who's not played the game before definitely give it a go but some of my experiences are negative, I've just reset my feats and I'm blasting through the mobs 1 to 3 levels above me sometimes in pairs, though it does feel great its still on the easy side and without a meaningful death penalty you don't really give a toss about how you fight, respawn get back in the action thats it, and my gear is so old I cannot remember the last time I changed it. So I don't see any inprovements in this area maybe its only at endgame and now its f2p I might get there this year, so I'll find out.

  Calerxes

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Joined: 2/06/09
Posts: 681

Disco Will Never Die

7/03/11 10:27:36 AM#14
Originally posted by Professor78

I have to say that I do see Karmath's point about people complaning about a games bad performance setting wise.

It is clearly made to run on a high end pc, and if you don't have one, why even bother. It would be like buying a Ferrari and not being able to drive - "oh this cars shit because I can't drive" - see my point?

The only problem I had with the game is the lack of population. I have returned a couple of times, if it was thriving with players I would probably return again. It looks feels and sounds great, how a MMO should. But maybe too far ahead of time spec wise - giving it a limited audience.

 

Thats why they give you the ability to adjust the settings so you can fine tune it to run smoothly, and it is not just me that has problems but many others and thats probably the biggest reason why you found a lack of population. For a while I had the classic crashing while zoning problem that is fixed now. I can run Aion 2.5 fully maxed out with no problems other than when I enter a crowded city but thats just a bit of lag for 30 secs and then its good to go. Its has got better with AOC but its far from perfect. 

  gostly

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Joined: 10/04/04
Posts: 132

losing all hope is freedom

7/03/11 10:42:49 AM#15

If you never enjoyed the game to begin with, why would you enjoy it NOW? I subscribed to the game for about 8 months in 2009, came back last year and because of the low population I canceled pretty quick.

Personally, the game is one of my all-time MMO favorites. The combat is more fun than nearly every MMO out there. The F2P model pissed me off at first, but when you really think about it they are letting you play it for free when normally you'd have to pay. So I plan on resubbing, I'm hoping the new server is coming soon. Everyone starting new and fresh in a pvp environment will be a blast for me.

Oh and if you have performance issues, either deal with it like I did when I used to play on my old PC(loading screens would take minutes) and still have fun, upgrade your PC (or get a new one altogether which is what I've done), OR don't play if it really bothers you that much.

  djvapid

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Joined: 7/05/11
Posts: 82

7/08/11 9:44:15 PM#16

I pre-ordered this game.  I was totally excited about it.  They promised this new system where the A.I. would attack player-built villages/cities, lots of gore and of course, tits. 

 

Then I played the game.  Of course, when it was first released, you'd hit close to level 40 and suddenly there was no content.  It was a huge gap in questing and you ended up grinding for awhile.  The PvP has always been atrocious and even though I quit the game after the first month and never looked back, from what I've read it's still horrible and unbalanced.

 

But, that on the side, I also remember the tutorial and that initial area you started in.  It completely blew me away.  I was sold on that game for life -if- the game's tutorial represented how the entire game panned out...

 

Sure enough, that wasn't the case.  That and the unusually large amount of perverts and fat truckers named Tom playing chicks and creating "adult" oriented guilds for like-minded perverted old men playing chicks was sort of the kick in the groin for me.  Coming back to check out what people are saying about this game in case I might be interested in playing again, I've quickly realized it's still exactly what it was before. 

 

It looks great, but according to the vast majority of people other than you're trolling fanboi who defends his or her time sink to the bitter end, it's still fail.

  Thunderous

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Posts: 1203

7/09/11 12:59:38 AM#17
Originally posted by Osmanthus

I quit playing this game after about a month when it first came out.  There were many weaknesses in the game including terrible class balance, horrible instancing and incomplete game world.

Today, I logged onto my old character for free.  I had read over the years that the game had improved a lot.

Today, I found out the truth.  The game is exactly the same.  It still blows.

Coming back to my level 65 demonlogist was like remembering a bad dream.   Everything was exactly the same except that an item mall window pops up when I first logged on.   

Battlegrounds are still the same unbalanced tomfoolery.  Not fun in any way.

After playing this today, I have decided that I will never play a Funcom MMO again, they are not serious about finishing their games or making sure they have sensible rulesets.  Just dumb one-off game for grubbing money.

 I agree 100%.  For all the clowns that come here and tell us the game has changed, the problems are fixed, and it is solid now...  WHAT are they talking about?   The game is almost identical to the bad joke it was a month after launch.  It's so bad that Funcom would have to pay ME to play it. 

Such a cool IP, so many possibilities that they squandered...

I just don't understand how people can devote so much time in their ONE life on Earth playing such a garbage game...  It's almost like Stockholm Syndrome.  Amazing.

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  Loke666

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7/09/11 1:08:01 AM#18
Originally posted by lizardbones

And that's why the game still exists. There are a good many people who like to play the game. It's primarily a PvE game...which always struck me as very, very weird. If there was ever an IP that screamed "PVP!" it was Conan (to me).

But it's not really a PvP game. It's a PvE game that has PvP elements. If you are interested in leveling to max and then gear grinding then AoC will probably have something you like.

I never really could get into the game, but I think it has improved over time, especially from its initial release.

Really? The books are often closer to PvE than PvP, at least in my humble opinion. Raiding elephant gods tower, killing demi gods and so on.

I think you have read the comics that are rather varying in quality instead of the books. :)

If you want a PvP IP, think "Game of thrones" instead, Conan is PvE.

  MMO.Maverick

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7/09/11 3:02:03 AM#19
Originally posted by Thunderous
Originally posted by Osmanthus

I quit playing this game after about a month when it first came out.  There were many weaknesses in the game including terrible class balance, horrible instancing and incomplete game world.

Today, I logged onto my old character for free.  I had read over the years that the game had improved a lot.

Today, I found out the truth.  The game is exactly the same.  It still blows.

Coming back to my level 65 demonlogist was like remembering a bad dream.   Everything was exactly the same except that an item mall window pops up when I first logged on.   

Battlegrounds are still the same unbalanced tomfoolery.  Not fun in any way.

After playing this today, I have decided that I will never play a Funcom MMO again, they are not serious about finishing their games or making sure they have sensible rulesets.  Just dumb one-off game for grubbing money.

 I agree 100%.  For all the clowns that come here and tell us the game has changed, the problems are fixed, and it is solid now...  WHAT are they talking about?   The game is almost identical to the bad joke it was a month after launch.  It's so bad that Funcom would have to pay ME to play it. 

Such a cool IP, so many possibilities that they squandered...

I just don't understand how people can devote so much time in their ONE life on Earth playing such a garbage game...  It's almost like Stockholm Syndrome.  Amazing.

? What, did you people expect that the game had suddenly magically changed into a completely other one? That if you disliked some of the core features that suddenly after a year or 2 you'd have grown to like the core features because they would have become TOTALLY different?

If you disliked combat or minigames before, I doubt whether that suddenly changed, I can't imagine why people would expect that.

 

However, that does not mean that everybody should feel the same about it as you do, I had an awesome time on the servers I played on. The melee combat was the most fun, engaging experience that I had with combat in an MMORPG. The visuals and background music are definitely among the best, and its questing and ingame world has its own distinctive feel and atmosphere to it.

As for what has changed, looking at it from a realistic angle:

- most of the kinks, bugs and stability issues from around launch have been straightened out

- content gaps have been filled over the years, there's enough content ingame to allow you to level up to level cap without having to grind repetitive content like the Villas and in a number of level ranges provide multiple leveling paths

- a number of the classes have been revamped, in some cases rigorously so that they play differently than they used to play

- sieges, battle keeps, upgrades for player cities and guild leveling have been added since launch

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  Reklaw

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7/09/11 4:16:51 PM#20
Originally posted by Osmanthus

I quit playing this game after about a month when it first came out.  There were many weaknesses in the game including terrible class balance, horrible instancing and incomplete game world.

Today, I logged onto my old character for free.  I had read over the years that the game had improved a lot.

Today, I found out the truth.  The game is exactly the same.  It still blows.

Coming back to my level 65 demonlogist was like remembering a bad dream.   Everything was exactly the same except that an item mall window pops up when I first logged on.   

Battlegrounds are still the same unbalanced tomfoolery.  Not fun in any way.

After playing this today, I have decided that I will never play a Funcom MMO again, they are not serious about finishing their games or making sure they have sensible rulesets.  Just dumb one-off game for grubbing money.

 I played in beta and was fairly impressed with the performance, having hardly any issue, occasional CTD, but then again can't name a MMORPG that didn't CTD in beta, even WoW had this for many people, so performance issue's are in almost any game people grab at release, cause plenty of people don't own a gamers system.

Overall I lasted 2 months after it's release and left due to the limits the game had in it's social/crafting/harvesting feature's. But overall enjoyed the pve experiance.

I read about unchained and thought to give it a go again and since Unchained I am enjoying the game, just went into the game with different expectations, mainly looking at it as a online pve game, already knowing about how limited crafting and harvesting is so not bound to see those things as issue's

I did make new character cause I want to get fresh into the game, even thought I remember many quest lines it is still fun to do them again, since it has been almost 3 years since the last time I played.

I aint into PVP cause to me that doesn't really suite Conan as Conan is about the adventure, read the books and you will know. I do run some pugs here and there, but havn't made any ingame friendship so far, cause it's the usual pugs where people invite you in just for the extra muscle, hardly any socializing in pugs.

Performance wise the game only got better, but that's also due to being able to max out the settings, which I couldn't max out while having a gaming system back then it was still a little weak compared to what I have today. But overall never had performance issue's, kinda goes for almost any MMORPG I played.

It's a fun MMORPG, mainly because I know what to expect and know what and how I want to play it, so I can fully understand that perhaps someone looking for a more balanced PVP experiance might not enjoy AoC, even thought I hardly have any experiance with PVP, so I have to take the words from some who have experianced it.

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