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2/24/09 6:06:42 PM#41
Lets see...they lost 34 million u.s. total in 2008. 23 million of which was lost in the 4th quarter alone. They have less than 40 million left in the bank. You do the math. LOL So much for that big increase in population. |
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2/24/09 6:25:55 PM#42
The OP cracks me up with his use of the word ' relaunch'. There was no relaunch of AOC..... they should instead call it " before client stability" and "after client stability". The only major changes made to the game have been the client stability and the server mergers. The patches are very small compared to real MMORPG. I think the AOC fanboys are amazed at the amount in their patches because all they play is AO ( a free game). AOC can't compare to WOW, Warhammer, EVE or LotRO when it comes to content additions and there certainly hasn't been enough added to consider it a 'relaunch' LOL Oh my god.. i can now play two hours without the client crashing to desktop.... it's REBORN!!! a NEW AGE!!!
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2/24/09 10:21:35 PM#43
as long as there are paid shills in here then it will be dangerous and deceptive to split the forums. The threads these people make it seem like funcom is flawless, and the game is perfect but when this is obviously not the case. |
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AmazingAvery
Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
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2/24/09 10:38:41 PM#44
Originally posted by croemar
Oh hey new brand guy on a crusade. Good luck with that. If you notice there are more people from all over whom have been here years posting that they are trying the game for the first time and liking it. Do you really think it is all one sided? Or is that just the best course of action because it shares your sentiments? Maybe they can create another forum where there will be a hand full of people but there will be dozens of accounts. Maybe the guy who openly admitted to making 20 of them for unrest here on purpose is still around. I am sure he is somewhere :) Come bring a debate with the correct information. If you aren't a current subcriber hence a lot of disgruntled people here then please stop telling ppl what the game is like now as you guys have no clue on the current state. Just like the review for the game here, which went down the shitter. Also half your thread is false, but thats just my opinion. I the consumer, in a large guild of consumers, playing on a server with ties to dozens of medium to large guilds are all consumers paying for something we feel is justified. We don't need people to tell /beg us not to play because it upset them so much for whatever "small" reason. People can decide for themselves with the right information given to them something that is purposefully been flaunted here in a misleading negative way. Because "old joe" disconnected back in August last year - so it must be right. The new forum should be labelled dis-information arena if they make one. Maybe it could be just like the cub scouts, where maybe you can all get badges for the craziest paranoid schemes, the make believe, and the guessing from not having the experience. :)
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2/24/09 10:42:58 PM#45
Not sure if any potential subscribers would wander over to the "Funcom False Advertising Propeganda" forum.........there are official forums for that and regardless there are (I'm not going to say paid) marketers all over all AoC forums to entice people into playing AoC.......I know I came from Gamefaqs/Gamespot last month.
The real issue for Funcom isn't the forums but all the trash talking happening in other MMOs about AoC...it makes all the trash talking I hear over XBL look tame in comparison. So FC burned 830,000 or so people and they each tell 10-100 people........that is a big issue considering how small the potential MMO market is aside from WoW. Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for |
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2/24/09 10:58:58 PM#46
There have been corporate shills and pro-AoC misinformation spreaders since well before the games release, spending their days touting features that never existed, inflating population numbers and posting about the games imaginary success. Many of them are now official forum mods, correspondents, or just still the plain old loyal fanbase that regularly defends the games here on mmorpg.com. This is not a forum for them alone, it is a forum for anyone that plays mmorpgs. Otherwise, it would be linked to AoC accounts. Not unlike the koolaid drinkers that they are so often compared to, AoC fans will always insist that their viewpoint is the correct one. That their 'first hand experience' with the space ship that will whisk them away to eternal bliss after they sip down the poison puts them at an intellectual advantange over all those filthy non believers. But the reality is that there is no space ship. There is only a couple of lonely souls desperately looking to fit in somewhere. And failing that, subbed to AoC. But I admit, its cute to see how they want to believe. Bravo, Mulders of the world. If a game is shit, why would someone continue to sub to the game? Just for the 'right' to tell others its shit? When did posting about a game require a monthly fee? Do fanboys seriously think they are going to trick people into financially supporting a bad game because thats the only way they are 'allowed to post' per their standards? There is no need to split the forum. Shills have the official aoc forums to do their positive spin on poor retention rates and Funcom higher ups jumping from the sinking ship, and about how 'amazing' the linear themepark supposedly now is. Those that want the reality, they can come here to read about how the game is boring, dying, not worth the box it came in, and has not changed for the better since its release. L O L Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence. |
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2/24/09 11:58:05 PM#47
Originally posted by Hamrtime2
That is not the link where you said you think they have a debt of $20 millions. ;) And a company that has lost 23 millions over a year isn't going bankrupt unless they lack the funds to continue their opertaions, which they are not. They still have around 40 Millions in cash reserve. so for them to go bankrupt I doubt it will happen anytime soon, but future will tell. :) |
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2/25/09 6:14:38 AM#48
Originally posted by finaticd This would not be a problem if EVERY post for the game asking questions about the game was not filled with "AoC is gonna die" or "Funcom sucks" etc. Lets say someone posted "I am thinking of coming back to AoC". Then someone comes in and says "I love AoC, so will you". Ok...now guess how YOU could counter that.. Your post...."I played the game and I found this wrong, and that wrong...etc..." (that is if you are playing recently, which 90% of hate posts are not doing)... See the dilemma? You could form a very good opinion post, yet 90% of your posts go into a thread like that and start quoting finances, and how the "launch" sucked, Funcom will die, etc. Maybe think about that, and see how it makes you look compared to the "I love it" guy. All I am asking for is more sensible well formed posts about your dislikes. And make it about the game. Funcom is not the discussion here, AoC is. This is just like the SOE hate posts, and look what they did there...seperated those posts, thus why they should do it here. |
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2/25/09 6:50:15 AM#49
I don't post here but one thing did catch my eye, not baiting or trolling just asking an honest question, why is Funcom not the issue? I purchased AoC on release and after a few weeks of playing i found it to not be up to the standards that i am used to in a Funcom game, i have been a long time supporter of Funcom products mostly with AO but with games such as Dreamfall (and if you like adventure games i recommend it). Maybe it's me and i simply cannot get into AoC, this is very possible, i dislike many titles others enjoy greatly but i believe that Funcom missed out on the 'RPG' factor of AoC, it's massive and it's online but the content, in my opinion, is boring as hell. I want to dive into my character and be part of this online world, AoC seemed to be the logical venue to finally be able to take a massive story and turn it into this experience one normally wouldn't get unless they're sitting around the table with some friends and a DM who knows how to write in a good, old-fashioned PnP game, this was not the case and instead Funcom falls back on the tried and true "everybody is a hero" and the "go kill 'x' amount of 'y' for a trinket you'll outgrow in one level" In my opinion Funcom has given the online gaming community a very generic game with little to offer except crisp, shiny graphics wrapped up in repetive gameplay and ho-hum run of the mill questing in a world in which neither should be present, it should be different but it isn't and leaves one wondering why they left whatever game and the friends they made on it. I think Funcom is very much the issue, but this is only my two cents on the matter. |
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2/25/09 7:52:39 AM#50
Originally posted by TheGrue This is a good post. I can see you do not like AoC. But, it is the fact that you do not like the game, it is not that you hate Funcom. Of course you are disappointed that Funcom made such a boring game ...to you...but, what does that have to do with Funcoms financials? See my point in that respect? If you step into any other forum here, you will see a good balance of posts with game questions, game concerns and company concerns. Right now, the AoC forum is 98% Funcom, 2% game. The same thing started to happen on the SWG, EQ and EQ2, Vanguard forums with SOE hate messages. This then either got put into a sticky or moved to a new thread. Here, there is so much noise it is hard to seperate the raff from the actual conversations. Maybe we do not need a seperate forum, but a sticky called "Why I hate Funcom"...this then would be an appropriate location to collect all of the actual hate for Funcom. Would anyone agree to that? |
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2/25/09 12:40:16 PM#51
Originally posted by openedge1
Other way around; since the majority of people dislike either FC and/or AoC.
The sticky would be called "Why I Worship Funcom" |
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Originally posted by Blackwell99
You might want to read this ....... http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/35714/EVE-Online-Trinity-Launches-Prevents-Windows-From-Rebooting Good reading isnt it,plus Eve Online missed it launch date by 6 weeks and had numerous bugs on launch, and each new update has introduced more bugs.Of course the QA dept is finding and fixing these bugs as time goes on. Imagine the people who found their PC's wouldnt work after installing that update,I bet a lot of non tech savvy people were in despair during that period thinking their PC's were broken.Yet no mention of this on the Eve forum in the replies to your thread asking for help. No rabid haters crying wolf and posting flames all over the shop,no one hoping CCP goes bust,etc. Yet on this forum all we get is post after post whining about no DX10,we were robbed,lied to,failcom,etc even if the thread is a new person asking about the current state of the game or what char to play. Yet you profess to thinking about going even further with your personal vendetta against Funcom,I guess CCP are lucky you haters werent playing in 2007 otherwise they would be the ones being subjected to this campaign. It's pathetic
Gaming since 1985 and still going strong. |
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2/25/09 5:07:56 PM#53
Originally posted by Blackwell99
Other way around; since the majority of people dislike either FC and/or AoC. The sticky would be called "Why I Worship Funcom" And this is why you are wrong. We FAR from worship Funcom. As a matter of fact, I despise them for ruining the game at launch. Thus a "I worship" Funcom thread would have a total of maybe 2 or 3 posts, compared to the hundreds of haters ruining this forum right now. I am here to talk about AoC...YOU and your type of poster are here to discuss Funcom...thus, the reason you should get your own thread...because this should be our forum to talk about THE GAME. We do not post..."I think Funcom rocks.."...we post "AoC rocks". As a matter of fact, if another company wanted to take AoC off of Funcoms hands, I would be pleased as punch. Do you now understand the reason for us asking for seperation? We cannot have logical and well discussed threads about the game due to the constant hijacks from those who wish to say that Funcom ruined something. I also guarantee the number of "I love" posts would go down because we would be discussing issues, concerns or answering questions about classes, skills, items...it is only because of the hate in the first place that the "I love" posters feel they need to say it. Anyways, nothing will come of this anyways, seeing the OP was moved to a category that has nothing to do with the original OP, so you won anyways. Have fun. |
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2/25/09 5:33:17 PM#54
Originally posted by Drednaught You might want to read this ....... http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/35714/EVE-Online-Trinity-Launches-Prevents-Windows-From-Rebooting Good reading isnt it,plus Eve Online missed it launch date by 6 weeks and had numerous bugs on launch, and each new update has introduced more bugs.Of course the QA dept is finding and fixing these bugs as time goes on. Imagine the people who found their PC's wouldnt work after installing that update,I bet a lot of non tech savvy people were in despair during that period thinking their PC's were broken.Yet no mention of this on the Eve forum in the replies to your thread asking for help. No rabid haters crying wolf and posting flames all over the shop,no one hoping CCP goes bust,etc. Yet on this forum all we get is post after post whining about no DX10,we were robbed,lied to,failcom,etc even if the thread is a new person asking about the current state of the game or what char to play. Yet you profess to thinking about going even further with your personal vendetta against Funcom,I guess CCP are lucky you haters werent playing in 2007 otherwise they would be the ones being subjected to this campaign. It's pathetic
If you don't get the differences-I really can't be bothered explaining it to you--stick to your "Name Calling"--it's suits you. |
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2/25/09 5:57:31 PM#55
Originally posted by openedge1
I do understand why--im just saying that isn't what a forum is all about. I also understand what you picture a forum discussion about AoC to be--I do. The fact they don't really go that way isn't your fault, and it isn't the Anti-Conan folks fault. They are the symptom....now if you want the cause--you should be on FC's tail (which in fairness to you, you have been -I've seen the posts on AoC's forums) I also agree that if they sold the franchise to a different company it would certainly go a long way. You like AoC and choose to defend it--I respect that, but you've known all along (I believe) that you were the underdog. The greatest tragedy is probably that FC has done little to help you in your fight---but again, that's not your fault. You like the game and want to talk about it with others who enjoy it too. If that isn't realized with AoC--fret not, there's always Guild Wars 2, at which time, I very may well be on your side next time around |
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2/25/09 9:32:32 PM#56
Okay, so before I began playing AoC (about 2 months ago), I came to the forums asking for some advice, asking if I should even play the game, and ya know what?..........I got a lot of useful information, from both people who love the game and people who hate it. I found out what people like, and I found out what to watch out for.......I think both the players of AoC and the haters of AoC are helpful to people new to the game. PLAYING: NOTHING!!! WAITING FOR: Dust 514 |
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Originally posted by Blackwell99 You might want to read this ....... http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/35714/EVE-Online-Trinity-Launches-Prevents-Windows-From-Rebooting Good reading isnt it,plus Eve Online missed it launch date by 6 weeks and had numerous bugs on launch, and each new update has introduced more bugs.Of course the QA dept is finding and fixing these bugs as time goes on. Imagine the people who found their PC's wouldnt work after installing that update,I bet a lot of non tech savvy people were in despair during that period thinking their PC's were broken.Yet no mention of this on the Eve forum in the replies to your thread asking for help. No rabid haters crying wolf and posting flames all over the shop,no one hoping CCP goes bust,etc. Yet on this forum all we get is post after post whining about no DX10,we were robbed,lied to,failcom,etc even if the thread is a new person asking about the current state of the game or what char to play. Yet you profess to thinking about going even further with your personal vendetta against Funcom,I guess CCP are lucky you haters werent playing in 2007 otherwise they would be the ones being subjected to this campaign. It's pathetic
If you don't get the differences-I really can't be bothered explaining it to you--stick to your "Name Calling"--it's suits you. Just the reply I expected,no answer when faced with a bit of your own medicine You dish it out but cant take it,sad really. Gaming since 1985 and still going strong. |
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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
2/26/09 12:32:54 PM#58
Originally posted by Drednaught
Oh, its quite simple really. The reason there were no rabid haters crying wolf was because EVE doesn't have any non tech savvy people. Sure, some folks were surprised, however in less than a day the customer base quickly adapted and resolved the conflict themselves. Just had to keep the record straight. "Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar |
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2/26/09 2:05:16 PM#59
I the 'lovers' want a separate forum without 'haters', it already exists, forums.ageofconan.com/index.php . I am guessing a curious potential customer would prefer a more balanced commentary on the game, instead of a highly censored, officialy sanctioned version of Age of Conan.
OP I think you need to think on this a second : Neither the 'lovers' nor the 'haters' are comming here with the first priority of 'spreading the truth and informing potential customers', they come for 'Forum PvP'. I have seen it time and again, a newb poster with an AoC question pops in and his thread scrolls down the page with almost no attention paid to it, while the 'regulars' here go' back and forth' with each other in 3-4 hot topic threads. You seem to be just as guilty of this as the rest of the folks loitering here, Dread. |
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Originally posted by Unfinished
Pot,Kettle,etc. Gaming since 1985 and still going strong. |
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