For the record.

1)

For most of the beta time dx10 was enabled in AoC (At least thats is funcom's position). However, Funcom disabled the ability to use Dx10, because honestly it was lagging people far to bad. (Some bad code some where or something, who knows i don't).

They turned it off late in the beta.

2)

Windows XP out preforms windows Vista when it comes to games. (In FPS) .

DX 10 LOWERS your FPS over dx9.

DX10 does look better than dx9, however, to what degree is individually disputed. Personally atm for modern graphic engines dx10 doesn't do anything for me.

3)

Funcom will support dx10 , so no massive worries here.

4)

This thread and others like it show how sad many of mmo'ers and forum goers are. Often misinformed, yet ready to testify incorrectly.

Because i can click a dx10 button that means i have it...

Because i built a NEW Computer with vista and it was faster than my older one with XP means Vista is faster ...

Because Funcom said that their combat would be revolutionary ... Oh darn we already know this ones not true.

I mean I don't know what the issue is, are people just to lazy to look up the reality of an situation? Are people to bias to look for the true? What is it that keeps us as humans in the dark, its almost like we purposefully seek to avoid the truth, because knowing the truth would cause us to what THINK ?

Sorry for the rant but this stuff always does get me thinking.

Originally posted by Jetrpg

For the record.

1)

For most of the beta time dx10 was enabled in AoC. However, Funcom diabled the ability to use Dx10, because honestly it was lagging people far to bad.  (Some bad code some where or something, who knows i don't).

They turned it off late in the beta.

2)

Windows XP out preforms  windows  Vista when it comes to games. (In FPS) .

DX 10 LOWERS your FPS over dx9.

DX10 does look better than dx9, however, to what degree is individually disputed. Personally atm for modern graphic engines dx10 doesn't do anything for me.

 

3)

Funcom will support dx10 , so no massive worries here.

i played hellgate london in dx9 and 10 and my fps never droped and crysis same so what game do you say fps take a hit over dx10 ? and as for xp better then vista for game how so i am having fun times with vista now that most games are made to run it with no bugs or less anyway. just want to know where you got your info, and run a game in dx9 and then in 10 and tell me you think 9 looks better ...come on have you ever even tryed dx10 ? or are you just a vista hater >>?<<

Originally posted by demented669

i played hellgate london in dx9 and 10 and my fps never droped and crysis same so what game do you say fps take a hit over dx10 ? and as for xp better then vista for game how so i am having fun times with vista now that most games are made to run it with no bugs or less anyway. just want to know where you got your info, and run a game in dx9 and then in 10 and tell me you think 9 looks better ...come on have you ever even tryed dx10 ? or are you just a vista hater >>?<<

Vista does very well with multi-media applications, but is in no way as good for games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xp-vs-vista,1531-4.html

http://www.simhq.com/_technology2/technology_110d.html

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMzNCwyLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

Whats the difference betwen windows vista 32bit and 64bit, could someone tell me ? because I have 32bit and if the 64 bit will increase my computer performance I will get it.

Originally posted by TrunksZ

Whats the difference betwen windows vista 32bit and 64bit, could someone tell me ? because I have 32bit and if the 64 bit will increase my computer performance I will get it.

Ok if you have 3 GB or less of ram 64-bit will not help you at all and possibly slow your system down the ever smallest tad. (Really, there is no reason not to use 64 bit).

32 biut allows the max of 3 GB of ram , 64 max of 16 terabytes of ram. however i believe 8 gb is the max supported via common motherboard atm.

So there ya have it unless you want to add ram or whatnot, no need to go to 64bit. (If the upgrade is free it can't hurt you , it will not help ya tho).

Unless you buy more ram , which will not help most games anyway.

Originally posted by Jetrpg

 

Originally posted by demented669

i played hellgate london in dx9 and 10 and my fps never droped and crysis same so what game do you say fps take a hit over dx10 ? and as for xp better then vista for game how so i am having fun times with vista now that most games are made to run it with no bugs or less anyway. just want to know where you got your info, and run a game in dx9 and then in 10 and tell me you think 9 looks better ...come on have you ever even tryed dx10 ? or are you just a vista hater >>?<<

Had to type this twice, darn it. Anyways, These are three xp vs vista reviews i grabbed a while back for another dx10 vs dx9.

 

Vista does very well with multi-media applications, but is in no way as good for games.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xp-vs-vista,1531-4.html

http://www.simhq.com/_technology2/technology_110d.html

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMzNCwyLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

nice link but there test are a year old would be nicee to see updated test stats

Originally posted by Jetrpg

 

Originally posted by TrunksZ

Whats the difference betwen windows vista 32bit and 64bit, could someone tell me ? because I have 32bit and if the 64 bit will increase my computer performance I will get it.

 

Ok if you have 3 GB or less of ram 64-bit will not help you at all and possibly slow your system down the ever smallest tad. (Really, there is no reason not to use 64 bit).

32 biut allows the max of 3 GB of ram , 64 max of 16 terabytes of ram. however i believe 8 gb is the max supported via common motherboard atm.

So there ya have it unless you want to add ram or whatnot, no need to go to 64bit. (If the upgrade is free it can't hurt you , it will not help ya tho).

 

Unless you buy more ram , which will not help most games anyway.

Actually 32 bit recognizes 4 GB, but that amount is shared between your video card memory and your RAM.

So if you have a 512 MB video card, the maximum amount of your RAM windows will see is about 3.5 GB.

I'm sure there are other things that take away from that number but I believe it's minor compared to the video card memory.

Originally posted by thexrated

Well, I think DX10 is partly enabled.

I am running with the following:

Vista 64-bit Home Premium

Intel C2D e8400 @3.6GHz on Abit IP35P

4 x  2GB RAM (8GB) DDR2 Ocz Repear HPC CL4

Club 3D 9800 Gx2 1MB

I am running this on DX10. 1680x1050 every setting is maxed and bloom is on. I get 35-80 FPS, probably higher at some point, but really haven't checked it all the time.

I get the DX10 lighting effects from tree canopies etc. And someone said that DX10 works in AoC apart from Shader 4.0.

dude some ppl, are just dummy , direct x is not enble yet still have  few bugs .

You don't need to buy the whole vista package again, I'm using my broken laptop vista key with Vista 64. just download the torrent or pay 10$ to microsoft for a cd.

Originally posted by WiccanCircle

 

Originally posted by Lazarus71

Originally posted by Gabiru

Performance decreases with vista, and also with dx10, differences between dx9 and dx10 are minimum, microsoft only wanted to trick some people into buying vista.

Maybe in one year from now it's worth to buy...

Go windows xp, dont feed even more microsoft, cause they dont give a damn about windows users.

Yeah I fell for the Vista Dx10 trap because I didn't research it enough. Now I am only getting to use 2.7 gb of the 4gb of ram my system has unless I pay a chunk of cash and upgrade to Vista 64-bit. Not saying I don't like the look  and interface of Vista because I actually like it better than XP but it is a system hog.

 

Performace decreases?  Whatever.  If you have enough RAM to run Vista, do it.  These XP fanbois are as bad as the WoW fanbois.  Vista runs fine, it is NOT Windows ME with new cloths, yada yada yada.

"Don't feed Microsoft?"  "They don't give a damn about Windows users?"  You mean don't purcahse great products from a fantastic company that has singlehandedly brought more technological power to more people in the world than any company in human history?  Oooh Kay... I am certain that is an unemotional, non-antiestablishment concept.  I am certain that the people of Microsoft (of which I am part because I own stock in our company) I am certain that we get together and fill out our Proxy cards to make certain that the people that don't care the most about our customers stays in the leadership roll.

Anyhow, enough with the Gabiru anti-freemarket troll...

Lazarus - I would go ahead and get Vista 64-Bit.  Use all your RAM and have the option (egads that word that the socialists hate so much) to play in DX10 if you want to.  I just purchased Vista 64 Premium through NewEgg last week for about $120.  It is hardly a large investment.  And my personal review - Vista64 for the win Woot!

Thanks for the response Wiccan, i will look into upgrading to 64 bit then.

As for the DX10 I  now no that everyone is right and dx10 is not enabled. I enabled and disabled it in options and saw no graphical difference, though I did see a framerate drop lol.