Originally posted by RayRay77

All of these WoW killer discussions are stupid. Just because there are 10 million WoW players doesn't mean there are 10 million mmorpg players. Technically, that's exactly what it means... Any wow player is counted as a mmo player.  It's a pretty simple definition.  Millions of people play WoW who have no intention of ever playing another online game. By your interpretation, many of those 10 million never intended to play wow either.  WoW is a phenomenon and gaming companies need to stop developing games in the hope of getting 10 million players.

and this precludes a new phenomenon?

your post is full of fail.

AoC may or may not end up up with millions of players , but there's no denying its going to be hugely successful, WoW is WoW and  has and probably still will be one of the most extraordinary success stories of modern times and there's no denying WoW's sheer quality ! 

Originally posted by Mordria

Oh no no... apparently (from what  I've heard on these forums) it's not good.

We should go play checkers.

.............triple jump, king me 

Damn, I hate these threads. Makes me laugh the posters giving it "OMG, this game is amazing, It's the best mmorpg evar". Come back and say that in 2-3 months when the game has an established community and end game. You can't tell jack yet.

As for the acolyte posts, i usually just skip them. I don't think they have said a negative thing about this game.

That said, I really do hope funcom pull it off, I don't want to wait another 6 months for a decent mmorpg.

Ps. OP learn to dictionary

A VERY simple bottom line question for you ALL (fans and haters)...

Will YOU be paying each month to keep on playing Conan for the next months/years to come?

That's the question ... HOW many will keep paying after the first free month AND for how many more months ???

Now HERE is the basic reason why the following graph hits the bottom line:

http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart7.html

There must be a reason why in the last 3 years only few people stayed with each newly  launched MMORPG.

Wow killers need to have more than launched hypes.

IF not: each FAILED MMORPG attempt risks (after 1 month) to even reinforce Wow's marketshare.

Originally posted by reisu

Please note these are my opinions, I obviously don't think they hold true for everyone:)

Do I think the game is awesome? Absolutely. I really enjoy the combat sequences, the graphics are amazing, and TBH I think they put *alot* of work into the various quests & missions (especially the Destiny ones).

Do I think it will be a WoW killer? No.

WoW itself will be the ultimate WoW killer. There will be many up & coming 'next new things', and eventually the desire for 'that old game' will fade away, just like the days of MUDs and MUSHs. WoW will only be able to re-invent it's already borrowed wheel, until most people have finally just had enough with it.

It won't close a la E&B; it won't just disappear one day a la Ryzom.

WoW has had it's run, and I think that over the next few years, you'll see subscription numbers dissipating, but I don't think you'll ever see it go away, for a very long time (hell, EQ is still open...and Horizons:)

There are games down the line that I am looking forward to: Fallen Earth, heck even Warhammer; I retired my WoW characters just about a year ago now, and I'd never go back. What I'll be playing in the future, though, is definitely up in the air.

For now, however, AoC will be it:)

Pretty much sums up exactly what I am thinking so no point in repeating.  Personally I don't give a crap what other games are doing, its not a competition!  If I like the game and the community is strong then I don't care if 1 million people tells me it blows.   Really want to play this game and my pre-order seems miles away :(

I do plan to quite playing W.O.W in order to play A.O.C. As well a few of my W.O.W friends. But I truly doubt this will kill W.O.W. Their are people who will always be loyal to W.O.W not mention the fact Wotlk will be coming out at the end of this year.But I think that A.O.C will be the first true competition that W.O.W has seen and they will have to fix things like servers and gold farmers but it wont be long before those issues hit A.O.C just the nature of the MMorpg beast.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Indeed Wow is MILES above any other MMORPG in game play and has set the standard for all future MMORPG's to come.

10.7 million poeple playing the game are ALL morons but YOU are intelligent.

Yep 10.7 million sheep playing one game.   Yes I am intelligent.   WoW stole most of everything as far as game mechanics, in the beginning, from EQ and just dumbed them down. 

In the end WoW is just another raiding game.  Spend tons of time with 25 people in specific dungeons waiting on someone to make a mistake and wipe the raid so you can start all over again.   I wouldn't call people who play WoW dumb.  Just easily entertained.

Stopped eating on that plot of grass for some time.  These days I chose quality over quantity.  I also chose to use my brain and not follow every other person in the world to the "In product".

Just my two cents. 

If AOC can do recenable good launch then I guess alot of WoW players will think twice about switching over.  There seems to be almost a year till WOTLK is out and last content patch has already been released.   Alot of players will be looking for something new since WOW can no longer bring out anything new.  It will be pretty much same old from now on.   Deathknight will be a massive mistake for the MMO comunity and as far as PVP is conserned...  Not worth mentioning.

What will happen is that the ppl that can't upgrade their pcs will have to stick with WoW the others will most likely move on.

AOC has huge potentials when it comes to longterm gameplay.   The game could be running for the next 10 years with current graphic engine and still be compatable in terms of quality.  WOW is already outdated and their item system in terms of coloring is one of the worst of any modern MMOs out atm.

I desided to quit WOW cause the game took a turn that I didnt like.  Blizzard desided to sell their MMO game for a 2v2 arena battles - and give those 2 ppl same rewards as others that had to work alot harder for it.  Thats a big falure.

Best thing about it all.  The addicts that have been playing wow for 3 years wont have money to spend to update their PCs.  They are stuck with WoW.  Those that actually kept going with their lives, went to school, and work - they have the PCs to play AOC and enjoy that game.

WOW is the Poor mans game from now on.   The quality and the balance is not acceptable in the MMOs of today.  And defently not in the next 2-3 years. 

Originally posted by BloodySun

 

Originally posted by D3mis3

I'm being serious. This game may truly be the WoW killer. Not now, but in a course of a few years. Think about it

• 600,000 early access slots - ALL SOLD OUT
• All 200,000 or so CE - SOLD OUT
• 1 million have applied for beta
• Better graphics, better combat - AoC leads the way for next-gen MMOs; WoW users may become tired of raiding/graphics during the next few years and switch
• WoW loses servers - AoC gains more servers
• This generation seems to be a lot about graphics and word of mouth advertising - perfect, AoC has excellent graphics

AoC is just exploding in sales. To what I've read, pre-orders are up to 800,000. Almost 1 million  subs in the first day of release. Now imagine how the game will expand? Call me a sceptic, but I truly believe this game is The One.

Get real SUCKER? if anything can go up against WOW this will..

 

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I'm glad we have WAR, actually, so people like you won't be soiling AoC. Go play with your orcs and elves, and leave Hyboria to the big boys.

Originally posted by Rychean

 

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Indeed Wow is MILES above any other MMORPG in game play and has set the standard for all future MMORPG's to come.

10.7 million poeple playing the game are ALL morons but YOU are intelligent.

 

 

Yep 10.7 million sheep playing one game.   Yes I am intelligent.   WoW stole most of everything as far as game mechanics, in the beginning, from EQ and just dumbed them down. 

In the end WoW is just another raiding game.  Spend tons of time with 25 people in specific dungeons waiting on someone to make a mistake and wipe the raid so you can start all over again.   I wouldn't call people who play WoW dumb.  Just easily entertained.

Stopped eating on that plot of grass for some time.  These days I chose quality over quantity.  I also chose to use my brain and not follow every other person in the world to the "In product".

Just my two cents. 

 

 

Well my friend I see you didn't play Wow lately.

Since Patch 2.3 Wow is far from "another raiding game". You know Wow evolved in these last 18 months.

The succes of Wow now is that in its present form it is the ONLY MMORPG that lets the players decide HOW they play the end game AND get rewarded.

Be it PvP, BG's, hi competiton Arena, heroic dungeons, small raids, bigger raids, solo play, hi rewarding crafting (money like) and dailies in all of these fields (from PvP to even cooking). it's an open menu for the players.

The game in its current state is far from a raiding game.

Everyone works on his character with his/her own playing style and EVERY play style is rewarded.

Wether you have 20 minutes or 20 hours to play. You can hop into Wow, do something and still get rewarded and have a progress with your avatar.

Some call it adapted to casuals, other call it too easy to obtain epics.

I call it: very good game design because the system is adapted to every players playing style AND time management in the end game. This reduces the grind immensly BTW.

The only thing still lacking in its present form is the so called organised open world PvP. WotlK will be ultimatley the last chance to do something about that (drivable siege engines, constructable buildings and party handled siege engines are already announced in a complete open PvP zone (even on PVE servers)with siege warfare).

So you CAN play the hardcore raiding guide OR be the casual BG or Arena player or the solo player. Present day Wow adepts itself to the style the PLAYER chooses to play and he ALWAYS gets rewarded.

Pretty unique in the MMORPG genre.

Originally posted by BloodySun

 

Originally posted by D3mis3

I'm being serious. This game may truly be the WoW killer. Not now, but in a course of a few years. Think about it

• 600,000 early access slots - ALL SOLD OUT
• All 200,000 or so CE - SOLD OUT
• 1 million have applied for beta
• Better graphics, better combat - AoC leads the way for next-gen MMOs; WoW users may become tired of raiding/graphics during the next few years and switch
• WoW loses servers - AoC gains more servers
• This generation seems to be a lot about graphics and word of mouth advertising - perfect, AoC has excellent graphics

AoC is just exploding in sales. To what I've read, pre-orders are up to 800,000. Almost 1 million  subs in the first day of release. Now imagine how the game will expand? Call me a sceptic, but I truly believe this game is The One.

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